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Had to go up to Columbia yesterday for a V.A. Doctor appointment. Talked to the doctor about copperheads and he said any more they prefer not to give the antivenin to people due the the fact the side effects are as bad or worse then the snake bite it self.
On a side note the drive was from fill up back to the same station to fill back up 181 miles and I used 4.4 gal of gas so averaged 41MPG not bad for a 1991 car with 160,000 miles on it
 
I've heard that a copperhead bite is about like a bad hornet sting. Wouldn't volunteer to compare them though.
 
Rich, what car was it you were driving ? Its funny to think about a 20+ year old car, getting better highway miles than a late model.

I had to get a fuel efficient late model, as it was 30 miles each way to work, '09 chevy aveo, former rental it gets around 34 MPG highway.

In comparison, I was running a '91 before that, mercury capri XR2, little 4 cyl, with a turbo, MPG was just a tad less, hard to notice actually. What a I did notice was that car payment though LOL !

I still can't believe 10 gallons of gas cost me over $40, 93 octane for my lawn tractor, and other gas powered equipment, and I have to treat it, and that $40 was after a .40 cent discount, local grocery chain was offering .10 cents off per gallon for every $50 you spend on groceries, they just raised it to $100, it was not a bad deal actually. I don't really get to caught up with gas prices though, can't do a darned thing about it anyway, 'cept save where you can LOL !
 
When the buddy took a hit from a copperhead he said the doctor told that was an extremely rare occurence as the critters normally head away from humans given the chance. This doc told he had never seen a snakebite come in to the hospital before. Someone on here said that fatality rate from a bite is only 1% now. I wonder what your survival chances are if a rattler tags you.
 
Ya it is a totally different thing getting bit by a rattler compared to a copperhead. A rattler will kill but a copperhead for unless something is odd or the person is in poor health will only make you sick
 
The car is a 1991 Toyota Corolla 4 door DX model. I ran the speed limit most of the time with the AC going full blast and yep did the math when I got the refill and it came out to 41.XXXXX so not bad for an old cheap car. My wives 1990 Toyota Corolla does about as good and it has over 200,000 on it
 
I'll cut up this old car when it dies and even then not sure if I will do it then since I have a another one a year older that uses most of the same parts. Plus when and where can you buy a new car that gets 41 plus MPG for under a grand which is more then I payed for this thing
 
My son was raising some copperheads and got tagged on his right middle finger. Arm swelled up to his elbow (hand looked like he was wearing a catchers mitt), tissue around the bite area turned black and died. He made a cut down the length of his finger to relieve pressure from swelling. After healing some nerve damage in finger and some scar tissue from dead skin. Took about a month to heal.
 
I've had both. Don't you believe that BS. Hornets hurt, but much less swelling and no tissue damage to speak of. Not true for the snake!
 
My experience with copperheads has been just the opposite. They will stay and confront you, most if not all other snakes prefer to flee.
 
I had a 84 Chevette gas that got 38 and 42 on the only two longer journeys I ever took with it, but it was a lot less car than your Toyota.
 
I had to fold my body three times to get in the door and it rode like a lumberwagon, but it was one tough little car and it would go through a lot of snow for a little crackerbox. Jim
 
If I remember right the starter was one of the worse parts to have to change. Had to pull the motor mount and jack the engine up on that side to get the starter in or out
 
I forgot about that. Replaced the starter and now I don't think I'll make it to heaven after using THAT kind of language. Jim
 
"I heard & they said" are both the biggest liers in the country. LOL
Don't believe copper heads and stinging bugs are in the same leauge.
 
At least it wasn't as bad as having to replace the spark plugs in the Chev Omega with the V-8 where you had to pull the engine to get to some of the plugs. There was a recall on them and the dealers drill holes in the inner fenders so a person could get to the plugs
 
Only way they would be even close is if the person was allergic to the bee sting and then it could well be the worse of the 2 since a bee sting can kill some people but that is the only way the 2 could compare
 
We raise and breed all kinds of snake. Much like a famer who breeds his/her livestock. You look for genetic traits that are marketable and try to breed to get the desired outcome. We use punnetts square and can do pretty good on predicting the ratios.

Hey, if we can sell a couple of dozen snakes a year @ ten to twenty-twoo thousand each I don't think it is too bad a prospect. Although, some of their bites can kill you in less than 30 minutes. Heck, a bull, horse or tractor can kill you even quicker.
 
All snakes will run given the chance. But if you walk up on them without them knowing you are coming they will stand their ground.

A rattler will rattle his tail; A cottonmouth will sit there with its mouth open wide. Both are defensive measures to say do not touch me.
But if you step on them or try to pick them up they will attack with all they have.

On the other hand a copperhead will strike at you. Since it is a defensive strike they usually do not inject much venom.

These facts along with the fact that copperheads have a much weaker venom when compaired to rattelers and cottonmouths is the reason copperhead encounters are not as bad.
Copperhead bites are more common in the U.S.
Might even be as high as both the others combined.
 
I watched a show the other night where they were taking all types of snakes and milking them for their venom to use for making antivenom, etc. The two they showed being milked were a coral snake, and some type of cobra, which they said were two of the most poisioness snakes they had in that facility. You'd figure they'd have some really careful, safe way to do it, but their common practice was to get the snake out of it's enclosure with a hook, lay it on the milking table, and depending on the size, and strike speed of the snake they would either just reach down really quick and grab it, or hold the head with a special tool and then grab it. Said the one guy doing the milking had been bitten by many of the snakes they had, at lease once, in the years he had been there. Personally I think he was just crazy and the first bite did something to make it worse......but then again for the kind of money they got for the venom, it just might be a worthwhile business for someone so inclined, or should I say crazy enough, to do it.
 
(quoted from post at 14:06:15 05/19/12) We raise and breed all kinds of snake. Much like a famer who breeds his/her livestock. You look for genetic traits that are marketable and try to breed to get the desired outcome. We use punnetts square and can do pretty good on predicting the ratios.

Hey, if we can sell a couple of dozen snakes a year @ ten to twenty-twoo thousand each I don't think it is too bad a prospect. Although, some of their bites can kill you in less than 30 minutes. Heck, a bull, horse or tractor can kill you even quicker.
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What do your customers use them for? I'd have never thought snakes would be worth 10 to 20 thousand. Pretty interesting,(from over here, lol)I'm terrified of snakes!
 
Sorry, I just can't find a market that will pay that for cats(best $$ I got for a cat was $1,247. But, that was skinned and dried for fur market.) If I do happen across a market of equal value, I will defininatly keep you in mind.

Thanks
 
I'd love to own a viper but then I could not afford to pay for the fuel it would burn and the cost of insurance would be out the roof with having some one in the house that is under 25
 
Variations in colr and patterns. Years ago it was interesting to see an Albino Bermese python and they were expensive. Now they are a dime a dozen and everyone has seen them.

Check out sunglow boas, moonglow boas, piebald pythons and all their variations. The list is too long to write. Even snakes that are 'Het" for a certian trait can bring a fair amount of money.

The pure 'homozygous' are the one to bring top dollar.
 
This was on the radio so it must be true - in either OR or WA state a man reached down to pick a tick off the floor in WalMart a it was a rattle snake and was tagged in the hand. End of story.
 
I'm just kidding Greg. I know NOTHING about the snake market. Sometimes, it was common around here for purebred producers to buy each others stock at an inflated price.
 
Copperheads are not in the same league as rattlers, but I don't want to be bit by one. Know a kid who got tagged a couple of years ago. He had a pretty rough time of it.

On the other hand, I've had three dogs bit by copperheads, one twice. One was hit in the nose, another on her lip, the others on the neck. The punctures in the dog's lip were 3/4 inch apart; big snake. None of these dogs even acted sick. The one with the nose job was pretty unhappy for a few hours, but next day was fine.
 
Years ago the local Conservation Agent had a small radio show on Saturday morning, he stated they were no Copperheads this far north in Missouri.(Hannibal) The next Saturday he said you can STOP bringing in Copperhead snakes to my office now, I stand corrected!
 
Yep funny how they change tore minds when facts are set down in front of them. But then on the other hand they say we have rattlers and corral snakes in Missouri but I have yet to ever see one
 
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