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It's kind of interesting how things can get a different name in different parts of the country. Sometimes it makes me laugh when I hear some of the names people use for things on this site (or any other site for that matter). One of the first times I visited this site I saw an ad for a Farmall Cub with "cultivators". I thought that it was a little strange that a person would have more than one cultivator for a Cub. So I decided to look at the ad to see if it was just an extra cultivator he was trying to sell with his Cub or if it was something special. To my surprise he was refering to each shank on the cultivator as a cultivator. I thought to my self this guy must not be a farmer because a cultivator means the complete machine or attachment right? Well maybe not. The first time I met my future father-in-law we were sitting in the living room "farming" while the girls were in the kitchen fixing Sunday dinner. One of the things he asked me was how many "plows" my tractor could pull? My answer was just one but that it had 4 bottoms. To me a plow was plow no matter what size it was. I always thought that the reason he asked about "plows" was because the first one he used had 2 horses in front of it and he walked behind. Of course I'm talking about moldboard plows because I don't think I had even heard of a chisel plow until I was about 20 years old. Anyway calling a cultivator a "set of cultivators" maybe isn't that unusual but it still seems strange to me. Then a few days ago I saw a post where someone called a disc harrow a "set of discs". Actually the proper description would have been "pile of junk" but at one time it was a disc (harrow). To quote the late Jackie Gleason, "What is this world coming to?" To those of you would call a cultivator a "set of cultivators" or a disc a "set of discs" please forgive me as I mean no disrespect. It's just that every time I see someone use that "terminology" I just can't help but think that guy must not have grown up on a farm. You guys have a good weekend and a good planting season. Ron
 
I think it's a regional issue. My Dad grew up in Michigan, and he called a small stream a "crick". Everyone around "here" calls it a creek. Every time I heard him say crick, I had to pause and think about it. Never was able to straighten him out on it. . .
 
I have the same frustration, when some people say their tractor won't crank, It might turn over fine but not start! To me, to crank is to turn over, but not necessarily start. It's hard to help someone troubleshoot when they speak a different language! In the USA! And what is a disk harrow, a disk is made up of gangs of disks, a harrow is either spike tooth or spring tooth, totally different! My rant for tonight!
 
In northern Indiana, we put "the cultivators" on the H. (just one assembled set of parts.)
and we pull three plows with a 350U (a three plow tractor) but it is one piece of equipment. Pair of Pants??? Pair of scissors or tin snips??? All weird.. A part of the difficult components of the English language. Where Wear Ware Jim
 
fergot a piece of equipment called the cultipacker.

it ran ahead of a set of harrows or sometimes a set of gang tires like James's
 
Ran into that today. Nieces husband stopped by wanting me to look at his pickup. Said it was missing at higher speeds. No it was stumbling at 55. Mechanical advance in the distributer is froze up.

Rick
 
'Disc harrow' is the one that confuses me, that is _not_ said in my region.

A disk (I'll accept disc, but it's 'disk' here...) is the implement with the round conical blades on it. Does intermediate tillage.

A harrow can also be called a drag, can have ridgid or sping teeth on it. Does light, finishing tillage.

Some disks have a harrow behind them to even up the ridges and lumps left. It's a 'disk with a harrow'. Kinda rare tho around here, only seen a couple in my life.

But, never heard of a 'disc harrow' before I got to this site. Just the oddest term I've ever come across.

And as you say, all in the region, no disrespect for what is a common term in some other area, it's all good, only mentioning it in passing. :)

--->Paul
 
Would it bother you, if I called a plow 3 bottom-4 bottom or 5 bottom? I am sure that it depends on where you grew up, and what your farmer peers called it! Pike Co. Illinois folks used a set of cultivators on their tractor to cultivate beans or corn, used a disk, with a spike toothed harrow behind it to make a seed bed. I hope the correct police don't come after me!
 
There was a guy on TV years ago who could tell where you were raised within 50 miles just by talking to you for a few minutes. Bet he'd have a field day on here! By the way, it's "crick" to me too.
 
around here a set of cultivators refers to one complete set ,be it one row or eight,a plow is one bottom 1,2,3,4,etc are referred to as sets ie set of 4 bottom plows
 
They have alway been a set of plows, a set of discs, a set of cultivators, a spike tooth harrow, a disc harrow , a set of chisel plows, a lay off plow , a cultipacker or a hiller,in my neck of the woods. Pardon the Redneck terminology.
 
In Bawlmer (Baltimore to the rest of the world) where my dad grew up, that davenport was a teaque, and the furnace downycellar exhausted through the awl duck. Here on the Eastern Shore a disk/ disk harrow was a "sod cutter" and we used it to work ground for stuff like "English Peas" and "Arish Potatoes". Not to mention going out on a boat for arshters, jimmies, buckrams, hardheads or swellin' toads.
 
it's a big country. the terminalogy for a plow share. we always called them plow points but some parts of the country call them lays and others call them shears. something else to think about, why is bra singular and pantys' are plural?
 
I grew up in northern Kentucky, we had a "cuttin' hire" which is what you guys call a disc. I still see auction sale bills from "home" that have them listed as a cuttin hire.
 
Here in CNY we always draged a field with the "drag" and disced them with a set of "discs"
When they put wheels on drags they became "spring tooth harrows" Todays drag has been combined with stronger teeth, finger smootheners, or roller baskets, and now it is a "finish harrow" The poor old disc with all these attachments is still just a "disc"
The term I hear around here once in the while, refering to "field cultivators" or "chisel plows" is "the diggers"
One could go on and on with all forms of farm equipment.
Loren.
 
Round cheer we use a hose pipe to water things. Some people just use a hose. A crick is what I have in my neck after running my disk harrow.
Anybody ever drive a staub in the ground to mark something?. Well, got to get busy now. I'm fixin to go mess around in the shop since it's raining this mornin. Oh, I got to go hock up this slug in my throat caused by all the pollen in the air.
Richard
 
Worrying about stuff like that will just give you ulcers. Where I came from 100 miles south of where I'm at now we had "disc harrows", "Springtooth harrows" and "pegtooth harrows". Up here they have "harrows" (pronounced "har-ows", not "hair-ows" as we pronounced it), a springtooth harrow is a "drag" and a pegtooth a "finishing drag". Silage that spoils gets "het up" and that heavy thing in your tractor is a "batry", not a battery. What to me is a "bog harrow" is called a "plowing disc" up here.

I don't know what the difference is or why one group of farmers calls things by one name and another group 100 miles south calls it by another. I can't say it really matters much to me either. Does make you wonder though.
 
I grew up in a farm equipment dealership on its way down. Never did any farming myself. But a plow was a plow, whether it had a single bottom or several. I was most familiar with the moldboard plows, but a lot of farmers here liked something called a disc plow, whether they were plowing with a Cub or an H. A disc was ONE of the disc-shaped cutting devices, OR a machine made up of one or more gangs of those separate discs, and a "disc harrow" was some city guy talking about your disc [although I have heard a few old-time farmers talk about buying a "disc harra," which I always assumed was just old-timer speak]. My grand-dad had a Jeep CJ2A with a 3-point hitch, PTO, and hydraulic lift, and when he prepared his garden, he had a spring-tooth harrow he pulled over the garden after it was plowed.

And a cultivator was a complete "set of cultivators," as the terms were used interchangeably. But an incomplete "set of cultivators" was a problem, especially if you were buying and selling tractors with attachments...because, if you only had a part of a set of cultivators, it was pretty difficult to buy just the missing sections of the cultivator to complete the set, as most farmers who were selling wanted to sell the complete set [as opposed to farmers who were trading, who might not have used the complete set for one reason or another, and who may have "misplaced" the rest of the set of cultivators].

Of course, back when it wasn't un-PC to smoke, most people called that little device an "astray," and not a "butt receptacle" like the military did, either. So where you grew up probably has a lot to do with what you call something, be it an ashtray, a disc, or a set of cultivators.
 
Only some of you will know what a "hay ring" is,and I'm guessing it's not the folks who live where I do.
Then there's field digger for what some of us know as a field cultivator.
 
I think its a pair of pants cause you used to lace them together each day. in the front and in the back... so.. a pair of pants.. in the thousand years of pants, sewing machines are still pretty new in the scheme of things.
 
My head is gonna hurt.... ;)

Nice slow rains we are getting, getting antzy to do something, but sure need the rain and it's early.

--->Paul
 
How about 'scratchers', 'tumbling harrow' (as opposed to just harrow, 'hill sweep', '4 plows', 'scrapers', 'disk hillers' (which could be used to make a bed or reversed to bar off/scrape?
 
Disc , Plow , Cultivator , Cultipacker , Planter , Drill , Combine , Baler , Wagons , elevator , Gravity Box , Mowing Machine , Rake , Spike Drag , Drag , Rotary Hoe , $hit Spreader , Bean Puller , Windrower , Grain Head , Corn Head , Bean Head , Grain Truck , Pick-up , dead furrow , back furrow , plowing out a land , plowing in a land , Kitter dragging , Double Kitter dragging , Cultivators had shields not "fenders" , hay mow , corn crib , Pig shed , Rabit hutch , and last but not least , if you don't eat " SUPPER" as your last meal of the day then you DIDN'T grow up on a farm! SO what state am I from?
 
The "crick" is where the dogs go "swimmin" and you gotta' get the machinery "acrost" without gettin in hot water with the DEC. Then there is "cricked" which means not nessasarily straight which most "cricks" arn't "ennyway". This is northern central Pennsylvania talking.
 
Couildn't agree with you more.Also I have heard people say "mowing machine". I grew up with a cyclebar mower being a mower!Spent time in New York state and semi's are tractor trailers there.
 

Our language is constantly changing. I don't understand adding extra syllables and words in though. Like "off of" when just "off" says the same thing or preventative when preventive says the same thing.
 
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