OT Exterior paint, Oil v Latex

John T

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Any experienced professional exterior painters out there?? Ima lookin for experience and opinions........

Okay, I HATEEEEEEEEEE to paint, I'd rather take a beating, I have no patience and get it all over me and my clothes and everywhere else grrrrrrrrrrrr

So, a few years back I put new wood siding (4 x 8 sheets of exterior pine (treated or exterior glue I presume, its held up great) siding on the old barn and painted it with good oil base paint and its held up not peeled etc but its time for another coat

Id RATHER use Latex base cuz its easier to clean up brushes n rollers n my body lol but how much (if any) better would it be to use oil base??

Again its NOT peeling, the new wood sucked it into the rough grain well the first time, its just time to brighten it up but Id like it to last at least 5 years??

OIL V LATEX????????

Funny story, last time I had the "first wife" in the tractor loader bucket so she could paint the top portions, Id move to a spot then back up and mover her over. I was of course THERE ALL THE TIME ON THE TRACTOR.....So the phone rings and I run in the house and was only gone like 2 mintes BUT AT THAT EXACT TIME A BUDDY LEON DRIVES PAST AND TELLS THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD I PUT THE WIFE UP THERE WHERE SHE COULDNT GET DOWN AND I DROVE OFF TO A BEER JOINT LEAVING HER STRANDED UNTIL THE HYDRAULICS FINALLY BLED OFF

My luck we do that again and he will drive past although he may only pass a few times a year grrrrrrrrrrrr

Ol John T and all
 
For wood siding you use oil base as a primer. If you touch up with latex you should be okay without re-priming but if there are any bare wood spots that is where it will peel first down the road. If you paint more than every six years there will be too much build up and it will fail sooner when it is too thick on the surface. If you want to just freshen up a fairly decent surface then re-coat with just latex.It is wheen peeled you need oil primer.
 
I have painted numerous barns and other out-buildings in the last 15 years using both latex and oil. The latex is lasting longer for us.
I always use a primer with latex.
Lately I've been using a latex solid color stain with good results.
 
John,

You"re gonna have to use an oil base again.Latex won"t stick very long to existing oil based paint.You would have to competely strip off ALL the old oil base.
 
Well, is not so much that I HATE to paint, I'm NOT PERMITTED to so much as say the word "paint" in conjunction with any project around the house.

Back around 1975 +/- a year or so...we purchased our first home. The house was not quite inhabitable at the time due to some structural maladies. We came to the conclusion that the "remodeling" attempts by the previous owners was the reason for their divorce.

Fast forward to make a long story a bit shorter...I was back in the bathroom one night wielding a paint brush. I was happy...we were about ready to call for final inspections, etc. Any way...SWMBO came back to see how I was doing...gave me a big ole smile and kiss and huge hug. I thought HMMMM...this might lead somewhere "interesting". "Honey you are so SMART"...yes?? "You are so TALENTED...especially with your hands"...Yes??...this is gonna be GREAT I thought..."You can DO ANYTHING you put your mind to..." and guys, I'm here to tell you that I knew I had won and had hit the jackpot and won the BIG MARITAL RELATIONS LOTTERY until...."But you CAN'T PAINT WORTH A D*MN". Needless to say, I do NOT do any painting around/in/ or about the immediate house proper since that time. My soul has been deeply scarred and I "happily refuse" to paint.

John T...go with the LATEX!!

Rick...aka as "snoop-nc"
 
I worked as a pro painter for a contractor for three years in HS. When he wouldn't put me back on one summer I went into my own business and used all he taught me to give him more competition than he wanted.
Anyway we did a number of farm outbuildings, graneries, and barns. He insisted on Sherman Williams red barn oil paint. Then reduced 2 parts apint one part linseed oil. Use a 5 inch brush and really put it on. Dip the brush and toss it on the wall. No tapping brush on the sides of the bucket. Get a real paint bucket that you can hang with a hook on a ladder.
Take maybe 5 boards, starting at top and go all the way from left to right on each pass. Keep a wet edge so you don't get lap marks. (Where there are two coats its shinier). If I was there we could hand paint a barn in two days.
 
I'm not allowed to paint. I generally have about five or six pairs of jeans I wear, some in a more worn state than others. They get worn everywhere I go, so some are "good" and some "bad". When they get paint on them, they're bad, even with pretty good color still in them, I'm not allowed to wear them to places like town, eateries, etc., unless it's farm related like the feed mill or auction. When I get around paint, it's kind of like powder coat- it was made to jump on me. Something about electrical charges. So, I'm not alllowed---
 
Two passes to get it right. First with oil primer followed with a latex finish coat brushed on. Takes more $$$ and time but you won't have to go up the ladder again till you're a lot older than you are now. Jim
 
Hi John, I used Sherwin Williams Super latex on my vinyl shutters in 1997 and they still look good. I used the same paint on my mini barn sometime ago and it never peeled. I used left over insulated vinyl on the barn last October. My wife didn't like the color on the doors so I used the same paint on the doors. I used a 6-inch roller made by Zibra and a brush. Cleans up easy with warm soapy water and I threw out the roller. That quart of paint was $21.00. Hal
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I have found over the years that oil base seems to last longer then the latex stuff but that is my opinion of it but have found that the latex seems to peel and fade where as the oil base soaks in and stays on better and longer but when I paint i also like to cheat and use a sprayer set up to paint takes less time and you can get places better then with a roller or brush
 
The best way to paint exterior wood is to use the
Behr paint stain. Goes on like butter on toast.
Beat the pizz out of latex regular or oil based.
You have to repaint every 6 or so years. Which sucks. I dont know if it can be used over existing oil based paint.
 

I painted one wall 800 sq ft. of my shop last fall. At the store they told me that it is a good idea to prime with oil base any peeling places then use latex solid stain top coat. I was able to get the T-111 cleaned up good with a 1600 psi pressure washer. Then I sprayed the the paint on with a commercial airless sprayer that I borrowed from a contractor friend. I know I'm never going back to brushing!
 
Ok here is how to paint the barn with latex paint but you're not going to like it. Latex paint won't stick to oil based paint so you have to first paint it with an exterior oil based primer for wood. Then you can paint it from then on with latex paint. I personally think the oil based paint is better but everybody has to make their own choice.
 
Dear friend John rent a power sprayer with long extension as well as on ground Call and I will give you number of a fine lad who could do the job with you supervising Bill
 
Don't use latex! Staining is the way to go but not usually after oil paint (or any paint) has been applied. You might get away with it though because the old wood soaked up the oil paint pretty much like stain. Try a small spot and see. Stain becomes part of the wood and won't peel. Lasts a long time and then just restain. No scraping. Painters hate it because it practically puts them out of repeat business.
 
Latex over oil but not oil over latex. Latex remains flexible, but oil-based paint does not; if you put oil over latex the latex will stretch and shrink, cracking the oil paint over it.

Hit the siding with a power washer to remove any loose paint. Use a good-quality latex and it will hold up just fine. If the wood is in bad shape you may need two coats.
 
I was told by the experts to use oil primer over cedar, because cedar has oils in the wood that would come through latex. Them put latex over the oil primer. Painted last summer. Paint is not pealing.

That said, it would have cost about half as much to side over the wood. Butttttt the bosssss wanted the wood siding painted. It would have taken half time too and lasted for years. Can't say that about paint.

As for painting again, I'M NOT DOING IT.
 

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