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Installing field drainage tile

J

JMS/.MN

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Pix were taken on foggy Dec 13, ten inches of frost in ground, but crystalline due to dry soil. Plow is HM by owner, GPS (Intellislope?) controls grade and elevation. Plowed in 8300 feet in about ten hours. First and last pic- drum on front of Cat is HM hyd powered roll of steel cable he carries to get unstuck. Stringer trailers carry 4,5,6 inch tile for laterals. 8 inch available for main lines. Third pic, tiler is ready to cut tile and put the white cap on to close it off. End of project, pretty much all tiling is done on our 400 acres.
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Not that I'm an expert, but I was gonna say I didn't recognize the brand of plow....

I've put in tile the last 3 years now - well hired the pros to put in - and have another 40 acres to go over this fall - at least I'm on the list. Should slow down after that.

Looks good! Never seen 3 stringer trailers hooked together like a train, that's different.

--->Paul
 
The deeper they are the wider area they will drain.

You also want them deep enough that no tillage equipment will catch them or smash them.

30 inches minimum for me I prefer about 42 inches

4" tile cost about $1.25 a foot put in and the price goes up from there for the extra cost on bigger tile.

Gary
 
When we put in tile with a backhoe we find old clay tiles that are still working well that we didn't know were there. We have to tie them into the new tile. What happens when you cut one off with that plow?
 
Went up again, was $1.09 a year ago, was even a discount on that in you did more than 10,000 feet. And if I went in oats stubble in mid summer slow season was a little more knocked off.

--->Paul
 
Plowing in was 98 cents/ft. 4 inch tile was 37 cents, 6 inch was 92 cents. Oil price affects plastic price, so its gone up a lot in recent years.
 
Question for all the posters in this thread:
How do you keep varmints like groundhogs from crawling up into the tiles and blocking them?
I once had one crawl 600 feet into a tile and chew a hole in it which let it fill with gravel and dirt. I found the carcass when I dug down to investigate the "sinkhole" that developed.

Myron
 
That's the only bad thing about those plows. You want to use them where you are sure there is no old tile. Other wise you wait till the cut tile boils up then dig down and tie it into the new.

I plowed in 3000 feet a year ago where I thought there was no old and had a wheel machine this winter do the other 6000 feet.

Ended up there was no tile no where so I could have plowed it all.

Here plowing is about 20 cents a foot cheaper than trenching.

gary
 
All my outlets have a grate guard on the outlet of the tile.

I did have a turtle block tile once though.

Don't know how he got in there.

Gary
 
Unless the varmint chews a hole in the tile like my groundhog did, and creates a sinkhole, how on earth would you locate the plugged up tile?
It took a few years for my sinkhole to really show up, but it made it easy to locate the break.

Myron
 
Around here going deep just seals the tile deeper into the impervious blue clay. 24" isn"t deep enough but where the blue clay starts.
 
Guys I help out have a Bron 550 with a 500hp cummins and weighs around 85000 lbs. On a really good day can pull in 20 to 25 coils of 4 inch 60-80000 feet. Thats on a virgin farm with two stringing trailers and 3 backhoes digging juctions and back filling. Asked the boss what 4 inch was installed yesterday 68 cents
 
Around here the plow installers got ran off. They pulled the tile in took their money and would not return calls for broken lines. My dad started tiling in 83 and had so much work to do because of those plows. Started with a Barber Greene 30B wheel trencher and upgraded to a Vermeer T 600 chain digger. He is now retiring and passing his work on to others.
 
Another down side to plowing in tile is the soil compaction around the shoe. A wheel or chain digger will loosen the soil and allow the tile to start being useful immediately. Just saw a place near Farley Iowa that had gotten tiled. Dad and I just shook our heads as the tiler ran his lines down the bottom of the hillsides and then at right angles straight up the hillside. He promoted the escape of the water but did nothing for conservation of the water. For the last 20-25 years we practiced "sub-soil irrigation." In other words we put the tile in as close to level as possible and around the hillside much like contour farming. In the end you could see where the tile lines are in the fields since the crop was significantly healthier over the lines.
 
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