1 April 1942- Alemeda Naval Air Station, California. 16 of Army's B25s that arrived yesterday were loaded on to the USS Hornet, tomorrow she will depart with the bombers and Army Air Corps personnel on board. The Hornet and her contingent of ships is known as task force 18. In three days task force 18 will rendezvous with task force 16 (the USS Enterprise/Vice Admiral Halsey) together they'll cross the Pacific ocean en route to her target.
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Ultradog MN
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Hornet with B25s onboard.
Note destroyer Gwin and light cruiser Nashville nearby.
Hornet will be lost only 6 months later at the batle of Santa Cruz near the Solomon islands.
Gwin will be lost 14 months later at the Battle of Kolombangara also near the Solomons.
And Nashville will take a horrific hit from a kamikaze near the Phillipines in late 1944 but she will survive.
Note destroyer Gwin and light cruiser Nashville nearby.
Hornet will be lost only 6 months later at the batle of Santa Cruz near the Solomon islands.
Gwin will be lost 14 months later at the Battle of Kolombangara also near the Solomons.
And Nashville will take a horrific hit from a kamikaze near the Phillipines in late 1944 but she will survive.
Fordfarmer
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Thanks for posting these pictures and stories. My Grandpa was just old enough to miss the draft (he had a farm and family, too), but Anne's Grandpa was part of either a B24 or B25 crew in Europe. I heard a few of his stories before he passed away. The sacrifices they made and things they endured are far beyond what most of us will ever know. A big thanks to all our veterans.
30 Seconds over Tokyo...Battle of Coral Sea and then Midway..Then Island Hopping..
UD amazing you know the history of each ship..
Being an Army (Armor) Vet... My historical question, which was never fully answered is why US Armor was initially out-gunned 'gas' powered against German Armor during the commencement of European Campaign.
No deferments back then.. My father was drafted freshman year out of the University of Texas, fought in the Pacific..
Glad "Rememberance Part II" was posted..
UD amazing you know the history of each ship..
Being an Army (Armor) Vet... My historical question, which was never fully answered is why US Armor was initially out-gunned 'gas' powered against German Armor during the commencement of European Campaign.
No deferments back then.. My father was drafted freshman year out of the University of Texas, fought in the Pacific..
Glad "Rememberance Part II" was posted..
twostepn2001
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I have a cousin that was married to SSgt. Ted Laban, bombardier on plane #8 of the raid that flew to Russia. For years it was believed that they flew to Russia in hopes of re-fueling then on China.
But recently there has been evidence that they were ordered to Russia to gather information about the Russians and their abilities to fight a 2-front war with the Germans in the west and Japan in the east.
I never got to meet him before he passed in '98, but my cousin let me read a lot of his papers and stories about the raid and look at lots of photos during and after the raid.
But recently there has been evidence that they were ordered to Russia to gather information about the Russians and their abilities to fight a 2-front war with the Germans in the west and Japan in the east.
I never got to meet him before he passed in '98, but my cousin let me read a lot of his papers and stories about the raid and look at lots of photos during and after the raid.
Anonymous-0
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thanx for postin ,everyone should know history ,,. ,Dad served in the Pacific in Amphibious tanks ,, 4 different island campaighns before etting burned real bad , he never wanted to talk about it ,..I posted his ueloy in YOUR STORIES
Has anyone read about "Jimmy Dolittle", who
lead the Tokyo raid? A remarkable person! He was
the first person to graduate with a Doctorate in
Aviation Engineering from MIT. And he designed
the program. In the Mid 30"s he was to fly a
Navy float plane in aviation races. The Navy did
not want him to fly, as he had never flown that
model before...He won a new world speed record!
He was, however, unsatisfied, and tinkered with
the airplane all night,(he was a qualified
mechanic and engineer) The next day he took it
out again...and set a NEW world record,breaking
his own of the previous day!
lead the Tokyo raid? A remarkable person! He was
the first person to graduate with a Doctorate in
Aviation Engineering from MIT. And he designed
the program. In the Mid 30"s he was to fly a
Navy float plane in aviation races. The Navy did
not want him to fly, as he had never flown that
model before...He won a new world speed record!
He was, however, unsatisfied, and tinkered with
the airplane all night,(he was a qualified
mechanic and engineer) The next day he took it
out again...and set a NEW world record,breaking
his own of the previous day!
Anonymous-0
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Marc, there is a book called Death Traps, written by Belton Cooper, an ordinance officer in 3rd Armoured Divison during WW2, he was responsible for repairing battle damaged tanks, he probably had seen more damaged tanks that any other American (I spend most of 1982,83,84 in a 3rd Armoured division M60A3 between Gelnhausen and Fulda). He discusses this, it was General Pattons fault he claims. The debate between the generals was speed and manuverability VS firepower and armour. Patton won the debate, he picked the Sherman. The USA had the best tank in WW2, the M26 Pershing. However only about 12 made it to Europe to fight in the war. Coopers book well worth the price.
Scott:
I'm going to get that book.. I've asked several folks before I went to a Military College, no real answer that made sense..
My Vintage M60-A1 great tank, no add-on stablization though. Fire from a short stop.. Combat carry, one in the tube sighted as 1200 meters aim for the base of the form.. Two rounds down range in 7 seconds..
US Army learned a lot about tank gunnery from from the 1973 war in the Middle East..
Thank You..
I'm going to get that book.. I've asked several folks before I went to a Military College, no real answer that made sense..
My Vintage M60-A1 great tank, no add-on stablization though. Fire from a short stop.. Combat carry, one in the tube sighted as 1200 meters aim for the base of the form.. Two rounds down range in 7 seconds..
US Army learned a lot about tank gunnery from from the 1973 war in the Middle East..
Thank You..
Ultradog MN
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[i:654c4848f0]"UD amazing you know the history of each ship."[/i:654c4848f0]
No.
Google, Wikipedia and a couple of other sites for those details.
I always was interested in the Pacific war though. Since I was 13 or so I've been reading about it.
What interests me here is this wisbaker's second post on the Doolittle raid.
I'm eager to see where he's going with this.
Personal connection? Family? Or maybe he just likes the subject. I do too.
No.
Google, Wikipedia and a couple of other sites for those details.
I always was interested in the Pacific war though. Since I was 13 or so I've been reading about it.
What interests me here is this wisbaker's second post on the Doolittle raid.
I'm eager to see where he's going with this.
Personal connection? Family? Or maybe he just likes the subject. I do too.
My dad's brother was in his early 30s when we got into the war. When called up by the draft board they noticed his limp---he had severed his achilles with a cross-cut saw when he was a kid--he was told he was 4-F. He pointed out to them that he was single, while his brothers were married with children. He told the board to take him and leave his brothers alone, that put in the right place he could be of service. He went into the Army and served in Europe throughout the war. A welder and mechanic, he worked on tanks.
Anonymous-0
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On 5 May the Jimmy Dolittle Air and Space Museum, located at Travis Air Force Base, along with the USS Hornet Museum at Alameda is having a rememberence event on the aircraft carrier Hornet (different Hornet, same Alameda). They plan on having the 5 remaining aircrew members as well as others that took part and their families. It is open to the public. There will be a B25 flyover.
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