Formerly PaMike
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How much are you guys paying for local gooseneck hauling? I had a load of 12 round bales hauled 20 miles. 4.5 tons. Guy runs an F350 and 25ft trailer. Charged me $215! Is it me, or did I get taken?
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Eldon (WA)
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I haul with 14k trailer for $60 an hour locally...sounds like you should have asked first!
old popper
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I haven't done any for a year or so, but before gasoline went sky high I got $2.50 a loaded mile. If there isn't any dinking around getting loaded and unloaded.
Formerly PaMike
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I did! Supposedly $45/hr plus $25/hr waiting. He hauled a load for me the other week and it was $165 for 30 miles...go figure.
Zachary Hoyt
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We have a local tow truck operator who generally charges me $100 for a 20 mile trip, or $75 if it is shorter. I use him to haul tractors for me but he will also haul sheds for the Amish, or anything that he can get on the truck and strap down.
Zach
Zach
Eldon (WA)
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Sounds like lunch was on you!
you guys have struck a nerve.everyone who thinks the truckers charge to much for hauling should realize what the real costs are. being careful in all weather conditions, fully insured, quality equipment all costs big money. not to mention the feds looking at you all the time.i could go on and on.
Probably started figuring it was gonna take a long time to pay for a $60,000 rig at $145 a trip. With the initial cost of his rig, his time, in this case at least three hours, plus fuel, insurance and other costs, it's hard to always be cheap enough to make ends meet and keep customers happy. A friend of mine sells hay for $25 a round bale, and I charge at least $40. I farm for a living, and have over $125,000 in machinery that I put into the field while making hay, while Charlie does it for some extra cash and has less than $50,000 tied up in some old used equipment. Any hay that I sell is the best I have- the rest gets fed to a herd of Angus. He'll sell whatever he bales, and has no other overhead, and if it's moldy, gives no guarantee. I have farmed for over forty years, and have just decided I can't work to break even anymore. Maybe your guy is discovering that just breaking even is no longer an option.
So how long did it take him to haul this load? What other factors were involved?
I'd probably charge 70/hour for a tandem and tag trailer... and I can see it taking over an hour each way on some road conditions here to cover 20 miles there and back plus load and unload...
It seems like a lot... but when you add it all up at the end of the day there isn't much left.
Rod
I'd probably charge 70/hour for a tandem and tag trailer... and I can see it taking over an hour each way on some road conditions here to cover 20 miles there and back plus load and unload...
It seems like a lot... but when you add it all up at the end of the day there isn't much left.
Rod
john in la
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So he quoted you $45 a hour and charged $215.
Did it take 4.77 hrs to do the job??
Did it take 4.77 hrs to do the job??
The black hats don't like to take no for a answer when they want something hauled. I ended it when I told them 4 dollars a mile from the time I leave my home tell I get back home and 15 dollars a hour loading and unloading. They found someone else. Maybe he was trying to tell you something. This is a pickup with a 25 foot goose neck. Also I am not a trucker, just have a trailer to haul my things.
Bob
Bob
Jim Plunkett
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Got new IRP plates for my semi & dump truck 32k plate today 5006 dollars + 500 heavy use tax on semi. Then there is 1000 a month for ins , 300 & change for the plate on my tag trailer due in june. Next comes fuel 6mpg & 8 to 10 mpg on the other have spent around 4500 on tires in the last 18 months & will have to spend that much more in the next year or less it cost alot of money to run a truck up & down the road. He might of got ya a little but he didn't make a killing ether.
Eldon (WA)
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Yeah I don't think we are talking semis here for 4.5 ton....at least I hope not!
Anonymous-0
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Hard to tell about all the expenses folks can conjur up when they wanna suck a buck outta someone... But here, fuel is close to 10 bucks a gallon. I had 10 delivered a couple weeks ago and the guy charged just at 2 dollars a mile from his barn and back to his barn... No other charge because it took about 15 minutes to untie and unload. Says that's the only way he can be fair to himself and the customers.
He's a commercial guy. Never asked what the price woukld be if it wasn't his hay, but his hay price was compareable (even a little cheaper) to others around.
He's a commercial guy. Never asked what the price woukld be if it wasn't his hay, but his hay price was compareable (even a little cheaper) to others around.
Formerly PaMike
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Actaully I own my own business and fully understand free enterprise. I also have a good idea of what something SHOULD cost, so when I think I got ripped off I get a little upset. I buy skidloaders all over the east cost and pay $500-$1000 shipping on a regular basis. I also know that free enterprise will take care of the business that overcharges/doesnt take care of the customer. I guess your saying $200+ sounds right for 40 miles round trip???
Ralph Bauer
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10 bucks for a gallon of fuel??? surely a typo, Dave2?? If not, please explain, just curious...! Ralph in OK.
Ralph Bauer
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Never hauled for profit, did a couple short hauls of my round bales of hay for customers (350 single and 16ft dual axle single bumper pull)last fall. Charged $1/loaded mile loaded,hauled dumped 2 and 3 bales (5x5, $95/bale) diesel was 3.199/gal. In hindsight maybe too little, but was for FFA live stock projects. Folks seemed pleased. Don't mind helping kids out a bit. Ralph in SW OK.
rustyfarmall
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4H and FFA members are deserving of all the help they can get. Sounds like you did your part to help them out. No need to make a profit for that kind of work.
Ralph Bauer
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Your right, he is in Germany, remember some posts from him last year now...my bad! Thanks for clarifying.
Heard that, too, but I think that there can be done much more to improve the fuel economy of US cars/trucks. Those folks in the big three are just not offering it here. They got it, they produce it, they sell it successfully but not for the US market (FORD in Europe, Central America, GM (thru Chevrolet and Opel) in Europe, etc.) Only now, when we are not anywhere near $10/gal but around $4/gal, are they coming slowly around. I am as interested in EXCELLENT fuel mileage at 2.50 as I am at 4.00 or 10.00!! Why is that??
Heard that, too, but I think that there can be done much more to improve the fuel economy of US cars/trucks. Those folks in the big three are just not offering it here. They got it, they produce it, they sell it successfully but not for the US market (FORD in Europe, Central America, GM (thru Chevrolet and Opel) in Europe, etc.) Only now, when we are not anywhere near $10/gal but around $4/gal, are they coming slowly around. I am as interested in EXCELLENT fuel mileage at 2.50 as I am at 4.00 or 10.00!! Why is that??
MichiganMH
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I was in Germany in Feb 2011 and Diesel was running just over $8/gallon. Being as diesel was the lowest cost fuel, I would believe $10/gallon for gasoline.
jason, NW Ontario
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I was in Italy in '94, and gas was $5.29/gallon at that time. North American has no idea how easy we've got it.
Doug in Illinois
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I depend on the Iowa State Custom Farming Survey for my prices.
It says .20 per bale per mile to haul them. 12 bales would be $2.40 per loaded mile. The range is between .11 and .26.
So using the $2.40 x 20 miles the hauling should be $48.00.
I am also going to use a figure of $3.75 per bale to "move to storage" as a price to load the bales on the trailer.
That would add another $45.00. If you also add an unload fee of $45.00 "move to storage", that totals $90.00.
$90.00 plus $48.00 equals $138.00. He seems at least twice too high. DOUG
It says .20 per bale per mile to haul them. 12 bales would be $2.40 per loaded mile. The range is between .11 and .26.
So using the $2.40 x 20 miles the hauling should be $48.00.
I am also going to use a figure of $3.75 per bale to "move to storage" as a price to load the bales on the trailer.
That would add another $45.00. If you also add an unload fee of $45.00 "move to storage", that totals $90.00.
$90.00 plus $48.00 equals $138.00. He seems at least twice too high. DOUG
KCTractors
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Why don't you just go and buy your own truck and trailer and count all the money you made at the end of the day! I will not even hook up the trailer for a short $50 haul anymore, just figure out how much time you have into that $50 money maker!
Eldon (WA)
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Sittin on yer aZZ instead of makin a buck is what got this country in the shape it's in.....
NW Ohio Tim
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You're right Eldon, the trouble is, one of the other problems is the WalMart menality that everything should be dirt cheap.
I'm not saying the hauling fee wasn't high, I just think if you set down and figure the cost of owning the equipment and labor fee on top of that, it's gonna cost some money for services nowadays.
Tim
Formerly PaMike
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Hahah...come on up next time! How do you like that FL70? The OTHER guy that hauls for me has an FL40. NICE TRUCK! He can pull 20K in round bales but he can still shove that truck into tight little spots.
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