OT-coyotes

Billy NY · Mar 10, 2012

About 1/2 hour ago, had one walk right down the lane I live on, I'm attached to a good size chunk of land with woods, underbrush and all kinds of thicket, a wildlife haven, lots of deer and rabbits, turkeys, very productive habitat.

This guy in plain sight, was a big ole healthy medium to large dog size and I know the fur makes em look bigger, I got a good close look at him, managed 2 warning shots, he looked back at me when I did that.

How brazen are these guys ? My neighbor across the road has a small dog, a pug and 1 or 2 cats, plus there are a bunch of strays out there too, which is odd, besides, the voles and other rodents, hard to figure what this guy is after and what he is doing in broad daylight near the house. Big ole healthy coyote, 2nd time I've seen him and each time no safe shot, think he will remember those warning shots and noise and associate it with being near the houses ? When I opened the door he stopped and turned around, thats when I fired the warning shots, the girl across the road would be heartbroken if he got her dog, I was thinking he might be brazen enough to grab him off the leash he goes on at their front door sometimes, most times she walks him, and I do the same when they are not home, really fun little guy too.

SOunds like its time to set out some old venison and wait.

Going to track him in the snow now, keep my M1A handy,

Mike Groom · Mar 10, 2012

They like small dogs and cats,season is open year round here in ILL.I don't fire any warning shots!

Allan in NE · Mar 10, 2012

I want all the coyotes that will stay around here.

They clean up the roadkill, afterbirth and anything else that's dead.

I'm talkin' coyotes, not wolves.

Allan

JMOR · Mar 10, 2012

(quoted from post at 10:58:17 03/10/12) They like small dogs and cats,season is open year round here in ILL.I don't fire any warning shots!

oyotes are higher up the food chain than little mop dogs!

MarkB_MI · Mar 10, 2012

"Warning shots" are what you do when you haven't been practicing. I usually call them "misses".

Richard G. · Mar 10, 2012

Hear them all the time around here. See a few in daytime near the house. Son walked out of his house the other day and one just walked by him about 10 feet away. With the grandkids 5 and 2 walking to our house through the hay field, I am getting very worried about their safety.
Richard in NW SC

David G · Mar 10, 2012

Just shoot them on site.

J.Wondergem · Mar 10, 2012

I agree with David G. They don't need to be that close to the buildings.

State of Jefferson · Mar 10, 2012

I think they have their place. I hear them calling lots of nights around here. Puts a smile on my face knowing that the whole world hadsn't become civilized.
We've got a SERIOUS gopher, vole, field mouse problem in the alfalfa fields here. Coyotes do their share of hunting.
That being said, if they started causing ANY problems, I would be the first to start shooting.
Speakin of, anyone know what the going price for a nice Coyote hide is these days??

Ben

Billy NY · Mar 10, 2012

When I open my front door, directly across the lane is my neighbors house, no safe shot, coyote had turned around immediately, trotting off to the left, in the background but up hill is another home, another unsafe background, not worth it. I used to bale that field when I was a kid, years back could shoot in almost any direction, not anymore. I'm in shorts, its 20 deg F on my front stoop, now have 2 vehicles parked in the line of fire, not worth it, no safe shot, .22 handgun he's just over 50 yards, clear shot I would have tagged him I can lob these in on a calm day out to 200 yards onto a 20 lb propane tank. Rifle, forget it, no different than deer at 250 yds. But... I hear ya, one should practice as much as possible.

Thing is, I can shoot onto my property near the house, with safe backstop on our property, first thing I check is that, no good = warning shot in safe direction, hoping the noise will fend him off for awhile, best I could do, really not all that concerned, I hear em all the time, rarely see em let alone in front of the house LOL !

Billy NY · Mar 10, 2012

I leave my deer carcasses, for em and whomever else in hunting season and I guess for the most part I can hear em close by at night, but never bother with em, I nailed a mangy looking one, 2 years ago. The rest of the year I try and make sure to leave nothing out to attract em.

Its great to see what does come in for the carcasses which I will leave 150-200 yards away, bald eagle, hawks, vultures, crows, fox, coyote, just this guy was big, healthy and is around like he owns the place, well I warned her about the dogs and cats, neighborly thing to do, just the fact I've seen him 2x in broad daylight, if'n he was any bigger I'd be cryin wolf LOL !!

tomtirediron · Mar 10, 2012

I always get a good chuckle out of Minneapolis/St.Paul news when they report the appearence of Coyotes in the Metro.I'd really like to think a good portion of those that freak out when "fluffy" is turned into scat are your
PETA types. As far as I know currently our coyotes aren't an issue up North, It's our 100+ pound grey wolves that scare me. Told just last night that current local pack is 10 plus adult animals.
Hopefully DNR gets the season straightened out and we can at least hold the population in check....Legally

Dick L · Mar 10, 2012

One came close to getting my small dog. Talked to the game warden about them and he told me not to be walking around my place without carrying a gun.
When that sucker ran past me while I was on a tractor headed for the dog. I thought it was a big german shepard. When I started yelling he turned and jumped accross the creek, stopped and turned to look at me. That was when I knew it was a coyote.

LonM · Mar 10, 2012

I would have to agree with Allan and a few of the others. We have never lost a calf to a coyote- not that we never will, but a good cow will keep a coyote in check. They are a neat animal to observe; we had one that would sun itself on a bale pile one winter... would not be bothered by a tractor unless you got off to shut a gate or something, then it would run off. They clean up the gophers and other dead stuff- I've even seen them come out of corn fields with an ear of corn. There are probably good coyotes and bad coyotes, but my view of them is kind of one of awe and wonder. They keep the west wild...
LonM

Brian G. NY · Mar 10, 2012

They will also "clean-up" small dogs, cats, turkeys, deer fawns, woodchucks and rabbits, among other things.
A couple of years ago, we had a band of coyotes hunting down and killing full size deer. That is a bit unusual!
About 10 years ago, we saw (or heard) lots of coyotes. The population of rabbits and woodchucks was practically nil. There seem to be a better balance now; we see more woodchucks and rabbits and fewer coyotes.
We had one around here last year that was larger than average, in prime shape and quite impressive to look at. They come in all colors and some people say some are a cross between a dog and a coyote, hence the name "coy-dog".
Don"t know if that is actually true or not.
I lost a couple of nice cats in the last 10 years; I"ll probably never know whether it was coyotes or fox.

The Dukester · Mar 10, 2012

I keep a loaded Winchester 9410 around the house for the purpose of killing any varmit animal like a woodchuck, coyote, or raccoon that makes the mistake of wandering within range in the area of my house and outbuildings. If somebody tries to break into my house or garage while I'm home they are quite likely to find out what I keep the Winchester for too. I might fire a warning shot first...But, then again I might not....

Aaron Ford · Mar 10, 2012

'Preciate the warning! The wife doesn't understand why I keep 'em at all, but a few instances of late here in the neighborhood have her changing her mind.

Best sign? "Trespassers will be shot..."

100 yards further was a sign, "You are now in range." in Mt Storm WV

Not sure if there was a third sign.

Aaron

teddy52food · Mar 10, 2012

Maybe you have a different breed there. Here in Mid Mn. I saw on a trail camera where a pair took down a 10 point buck. Pretty gruesom.

ericlb · Mar 10, 2012

we have them all over here too, the coyote is a very smart and oppertunistic animal, while normally they tend to shy away from humans out here, its probably because we shoot them on sight, while he will clean up road kills ect, he will also grab fifi, the cat, and anything else that suites his fancy at the time, enjoy his snack under your outbuildings, and you may never even know he's there, id definatly get rid of him, and watch for his buddys, like deer, theres rarly any such thing as A coyote

doubleN · Mar 10, 2012

Have a lot of them down here in the Southern Tier. I was deer hunting once, standing back in a fence line and one came trotting right by me; big grey and orange one.

Neighbor pulled in one day to show me what he had in the pickup bed; big female he hit with his truck on the Vestal Parkway; this is a heavy commercial area----Dunkin' Donuts, McD's, malls, theater, banks, etc., type area.

I keep a salt block at the edge of the barnyard for the horses; the deer use it too and I have seen coyotes hanging around down there in the spring when the does have fawned.

So they are around; some nights they create quite a racket.

buickanddeere · Mar 10, 2012

Warning shot? You didn't shoot to stop the vermin?

buickanddeere · Mar 10, 2012

Around here they call them coyotes but the canines are not coyotes. The southwestern coyote has cross bred with the Eastern Red Wolf.
Wolf size, strength, speed, endurance, much more powerful jaws and they hunt in packs. Add to that the coyotes curiosity, lack of fear and cunning.

Gchase24 · Mar 10, 2012

I maintain a 30 acre tract behind a strip mall,Lowes and a Wallmart.To beat the heat during the summer months here in southeast Texas I bushhog after dark.I frequently had a pack of coyotes follow my tractor to eat the field rats I run over or expose. Ive had them come within three or four feet beside me while mowing.This area is in the middle of a very populated area with homes and a hospital yards away.

DownSouth · Mar 10, 2012

I tend to aim a bit low with my warning shots, eliminating any future visits by the same animal.
When my barn cats began vanishing, I got even.

Cold Beer · Mar 10, 2012

I'm in Michigan, law says a landowner (I have 10 acres) can shoot a coyote at anytime if it has done or is about to do damage to your property. There ain't no warning shots. Gut shoot them, they run in the woods and die. Coyotes think cats are a delicacy, My outdoor cats are my property.

JDseller · Mar 10, 2012

You guys that think they are great must not have very many of them around. In the last 10-15 years they are thick around me. They are in the small caves in the limestone bluffs all around me. They have killed three of my dogs and I lose a few calves each year to them.

The local DNR officer tried to tell me that they where not killing my calves. Well I showed him a video that my grand son made of them chasing down one of my calves and killing it. I have declared war on them around me. We killed over forty in 2008. Each year since then we get 10-12 of them each year. Since we thinned them out there are more small animals around the farm again.

Coyotes, wolves and bears where hunted by our fore fathers for a reason. They where not as "soft" as most seem today. Every calf they kill costs me several hundred dollars each. I have not seen any money from those that want the predators left loose. So until I get paid for them to be here then I will keep them under control.

OliverGuy · Mar 10, 2012

You can shoot them anytime hear. I never ever have seem them close to the house or shop. Smart buggers though, they'll wait till I have 18 rows left in the middle of a corn field and show up for a snack as the critters I worked to the middle begin to scatter. Happens almost every year in one or two fields. Doesn't matter if it's noon or what time, they don't care.

jose bagge · Mar 10, 2012

saw two of them tearing into a road kill deer on the side of RT 28 (3 lane hiway, heavy traffic) just outside of Dulles Airport and less than 20 miles from DC. When these things are thick as rats in the nations"s capital, knocking over congressional trash cans, then maybe the "beltway environmentalists" will wake up.

1970-1655 · Mar 10, 2012

We have a neighbor with a good sized hog operation. When it is birthing season, we tend to hear several shots fired. They pitch the dead ones over a hill and wait. If the coyotes do not come soon, they will try a squealing rabbit call. Around here, the only good coyote is.... You get the point. I shot one a few years ago and left it lay. Less than an hour later, his family came in and completely removed him. They are not picky what they will eat.

Paul from MI · Mar 10, 2012

I hear them frequently at night, and I'm very sure lot of the decline in our pheasant population ius due to them. I keep a shotgun in the barn for groundhogss, so far have had no chance to use it on coyotes. Maybe I need to work more at night.

Rick Kr · Mar 10, 2012

There is no shortage of coyotes in mid-Michigan. My new weapon of choice is my 30-06 with 55 grain sabot loads. They move a whole lot faster than 180 grains. Farthest shot so far 320 yards.

As others have said, the coyotes in the Eastern US/Ontario are a mix of coyote and red wolf. Local taxidermist had two last winter that were over 70 pounds. I shot a male 2 years ago that was 55 pounds.

Around here I dont think they ever be eliminated, when I first built my house in the boonies, they would run between my house and barn, only 70 feet apart. They would come in the yard while I was in the barn and take my geese, again 100 yards away. They had absolutely no fear of any one or anything.

I have one on the trailcam the other night that is all of 70 pounds.

Rick

Scott 730 · Mar 11, 2012

(quoted from post at 23:40:02 03/10/12) My new weapon of choice is my 30-06 with 55 grain sabot loads.

Tell me some more about these.

RayP(MI) · Mar 11, 2012

We have them in Mid-Michigan. Hear them often at night. Saw one sitting in a field just off the road not 100 yards from a beef raising farmer"s barn at 7:20 am this week. Acting like he owned the place. We have virtually no small game - pheasants, rabbits, quail, partridges... I am seriously worried about our small sheep. Do have llamas as guard animals, and so far, been lucky.

Farmers are allowed to shoot coyotes when they are "about to commit depredation." And in the words of my former DNR officer (retired), "When are they NOT about to commit depredation?"

Billy NY · Mar 11, 2012

See my other posts, this guy has stayed out of safe shooting range, .22 and or .308. I appreciate all wildlife, but will not hesitate to take one of these, given the situation and potential predation on domestic animals in the vicinity.

I patrolled and combed my place yesterday and I find scat and numerous tracks that point in the direction of him casing this hill and surrounding area, he's spending time near here, it could be to his demise just the same.

Billy NY · Mar 11, 2012

I've heard the agonizing take down of something, in the early morning hours, 3am-5am, it appears they take deer in this area, I have found parts of fawns in years past, I just found one carcass of a full grown deer, not sure what that was from though.

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