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Roger A. NY

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On Monday the 27th of Feruary I took pictures and posted them along with a for sale ad on Syracuse's Craigslist the same day. Here is my desription of the first tractor. "1939 Farmall A Restored, sn. FAA2849 with cultivators (hand lift), hand start, magneto, new rear tires, fronts good implement tires, new spark plugs, tight steering"

Here is the description of the second tractor.

"Nice 1953 Farmall Super C sn. 177073, with 2 point hitch, 3 set of rear wheel wts., one set of front wheel wts., rear tires good at about 90%, fronts very good, Strong running engine (rebuilt with high altitude pistons) right angle drive for belt pulley (MAY have a pulley for it), 2 point hook for release, all lights work, good paint, comes with 2 bottom 2 point hitch plows, front blade (IH) with all mounting and lift attachments (rare), set of double ring tire chains."

Here is the email I received; the same for both tractors. Hello,

"I will like to know if this item still up for sale, Kindly get back to me with more recent pictures and what is the condition?

Thanks"

What did I miss in my descrition? I thought RESTORED meant RESTORED, as well as I told them about the tires. Also the pictures are two days old so I don't think to much could have changed. With their grammer I would't sell them the tractors anyway!

This has all the ear markings of the start of a scam, I THINK!!!!!!!!!!!! Am I wrong and just plain ignorant and overly sensitive or is this BS? Roger PS I also love the email address. [email protected]
 
I saw your ads and they were very well expressed. That is a classic scam email that you got. Any email that does not mention the thing you are selling in the text and has those kind of vague requests is just some scammer trolling for a response. I have gotten legitimate emails that just said "is this still for sale", but usually if real customers ask questions about your item they tend to be a little more specific or related to the thing you are selling. Better luck next time, I hope.
Zach
 
I would ignore that,and take a deep breath.
Pictures taken on 27th Feb, e-mail wants More recent ones, today is 29th Feb. What changed in 2 days.See your frustration.
 
This is a scam. Anyone with a serious interest in your tractors would not reply like an idiot. Simply delete it without thinking about it and move on. Craigs List is not exactly the New York Times.
 
I would not respond to that email. Hotmail, Yahoo, Live, and Gmail are all free addresses. There is not an internet provider out there that does not provide their own dot com for mail. The second red flag is the term of item instead of the actual term of tractor. With your good description is enough to write this inquiry off as a scammer fishing to see if you will respond. I'd pass. Even giving this one email the benefit of my doubt, there are another 100 legitimate buyers that will be happy to call you or inquire in a more responsible method.
 
Total scam, just ignore and expect them with every CL listing. But in the spirit of their questions, will you take $2000.00 more than you are asking? and I will send you a money order for $4000.00 more, and you can just give the extra to my truck driver when he picks up the tractor. Of course the MO will come back stolen but it will take 6 weeks for you to find out, by then I will have your tractor and your money and you will owe your bank about $8000.00
 
I've got one for you also. A neighbor needed some round bales. He ask if I had some to sell. I told him yes, that I put weed kill on early. that it was clean hay, fertilizer was put on at 250 pounds to the acre.
We discussed price, and then he said are you sure you fertilized it. He came back two days later, and I told him it was all gone. It just hit me wrong I guess, but I decided not to sell him anything.
 
Its a scam. I was down that same road last summer when I sold my bale wagon. After I figured it out that it was a scam I had some fun with it but it went to Bozeman with a phone call with Jim. Bud
 

Roger,

You got a scammer, pure and simple. Don't respond to them.

If you listed only the link-back email back through Craigslist in your ad, your scammer was fishing for your real email address in hopes of further perpetrating a scam.

I kinda don't like that people won't put their real email address or phone number in an ad, but I can sure understand their reasons, and if I advertise an item on Craigslist I will probably do the same thing.

Myron
 
It's bs and a scam. You just got an email from a feller half way around the world who knows nothing about tractors. If you reply to him you will get emails from him every day for years try'n to sell you little blue pills or Nike shoes.

I have an email adress that only gets used to post adds, I never check it. Every add I post has my phone number in it and a note that I will not answer email but my account gets full or the same messages as what you got.

I have never had a problem with my number on there but I post it with mostly words and not numbers such as (onetwo3)45six-78nineten.

Dave
 
It is email harveter, or scam . Usually harvester if it never mention what you have by name and asks "Item ,It , or still have it ?"
 
Now if you receive an email like this you will know what to do.

Greetings, I am very interested to purchase your tractor. Please send me your bank account number and I will deposit the funds {US} into your account.
 
Don't get so worked up. Scammers are everywhere, and respond to every post, trying to harvest email addresses.

Rule of thumb- if response starts with "I will like. . .", just delete it and wait for an actual buyer. Don't be offended that "buyer" is asking ridiculous questions- he is Bongo Kabongo from Sierra Leone, and doesn't even know what your item is. Nor does he care. He just wants you to reply, so he can verify your email address and sell it to a spammer.
 
No, he won't ask you to give the excess to his trucker, because there is no trucker. He will ask you to SEND it via Western Union to his trucker, who is his accomplice, doesn't own a truck, and has no desire to.

The only saving grace of these scams is that you will NOT lose your tractor. The last thing these guys want is a tractor- they just want your cash, thank you very much.
 
I get mails like that all the time and don't even advertise... Couple of them have been asking about things that I specifically (in the title) ask about on here, others come from our website and ask about a horse or dog.

"what condition is the horse in and when can my agent pick him up?"

Wait til ya find them nice pics you took in someone else's add trying to scam someone else :roll:
 
All the scammer wants is for you to respond to his email. Assuming you didn't put your email address in the ad, he won't know it until your respond to HIS email. The message was sent out by a robot that responds to thousands of ads (hence the generic questions) in hopes of collecting email addresses which will be sold to spammers.

The scammers are easy enough to spot. What I find more aggravating are the "buyers" whose questions are so inane you assume they have to be from scammers because no legitimate buyer would ask them.
 
I've tried to sell a couple things on craigslist but I quit. I can't stand the stupid questions. Had a old table saw for $25 and I had questions like "what color is it, what's the serial #, what year was it made and my favorite will I deliver it 30 miles away for same price? It's it the scrap pile now. I agree with you. mike
 
I have found items I am really interested in, only to find the seller did not list a phone number. I reply with an e-mail asking them to edit with a phone number or respond to my e-mail and I will call. Sometimes I get a response, sometimes not. When I list something, I always list my cell phone number and state "I do not check e-mail so please call". Then check caller ID before answering.
 
Restored meass different things to different people. Ebay information a couple years back stated. ( Totally restored to like new, smokes)
 
Theres also problems with sellers. I ran into one yesterday I"m looking for a back blade guy lists a 3pth drag blade7 feet long asking$275. In my mind I"m wondering If it"s a back blade and he"s calling it a drag blade. So email him asking what a drag blade was his response it"s a blade that goes on back of tractor if you still don"t know look it up at tractor supply. That response irritated me plus he didn"t even spell tractor right. So I emailed back and said back blade with a question mark then I asks cat 1 or 2 he responded cat1 I left it at that I need cat 2 but I looked at tsc a couple weeks ago and the same item he has goes brand new off shelf for $250 just sounds fishy to me.
 
No impications intended, but there are people who run a tractor through a car wash, squirt some paint at it, and call it restored.

But-you can tell those from the pictures, 'cause there's usually paint overspray on the tires, no decals, etc.
 
Craigslist posting of a really clean Caprice is still getting inquires months after the posting.

Also brought every guest worker in a 50 mile radius in. Possible sting for ICE??
 
It is a scam. I get them all the time. Last one was a guy wanting to by my boat.Never owned or tried to sell a boat.
 
Well at least they did not call you at 04:30 o n Sunday morning . Years back i placed and ad in the Farm and Dairy for my one truck . The ad read 1988 Ford F350 4X4 dual rear wheel cab and chassie , 9 foot custom built steel flat bed with goose neck hitch built into the bed dual Reese receivers built into the rear bumper dual trailer plugs , 460 V8 gas engine dual fuel tanks , 5 speed trans mission , 4.10 gears with traction lock rearend. A/C, good two tone paint . PLEASE no calls after 10 P M and no calls before 9 AM . Paper comes out on Wensdays , not one call till 04:30 Sunday morning the next was 05:15 am . and the start of DUMB questions like you every thing was in the ad . And oh setting and waiting on NO SHOWS . Word to the wise DO NOT CALL ME BEFORE i have i had my first cup of coffee and diffidently not before 9 on a Sunday morning after i have enjoyed my C/R on a Saturday evening . I had nothing but NUT CASES call on the Farm and Dairy ad . Pulled the ad and still got calls about the truck , told one guy that ticked me off that i would not sell him the truck even for twice the asking price . Put the ad in the Farm World and got to talk to real people that had common sense , the second guy to call asked where i was and said that he was about three hours west of me and he would be there in about three hours . OK we will see , three hours and five min. later he was at the shop looked the truck over from top to bottom took it up the road and back and handed me two grad cash and said he would be back in the morning with the rest IN CASH and he was a man of his word. As for Craig's list sofar it has been fifty fifty with it .
 
Yup. There be people that will do about anything to scam a buck.
It is always buyer beware.
 
My cousin had someone trying to pull the Nigerian bank scam on him, he hit them back with the same offer worded something like "you can see from my e-mail address I work at a bank. During a recent audit we found $268,347.83 that is not accounted for, can I send it to you and you keep 1/2 and send me a cashier's check for my half? Since the figure is an odd amount down to the penny you know I'm not making this up.....)He never heard from the scammer again, he even thinks his scam attempts went down, maybe the scammers have a "do not scam list"?
 
I was pased an add for what I was lookin for and price would have been right, BUT says no emails, only phone calls. NOW, WHAT IS A GUY LIKE ME TO DO? I HAVE HEARING PROBLEMS AND CANNOT USE THE PHONE. How do I contact you. You must not be interested in selling it.
 
You could at least read them. That does not give anyone yoyr email. NOW, AS I REPLIED TO ANOUTHER POSTER THAT SAID THE SAME. I was passed an ad that was what I was wanting and the price was right BUT no email, only phone call. NOW HOW DO I CONTACT YOU as I cannot hear on the phone to use it. You must not want business from people with disabilities.
 
You people that advertise something that I would want and give me no way to contact you because you will not pay anny attention to your emails. I CANNOT use that phone that you think so much of because of a hearing problem, audioligst? says one ear too bad for a hearing aid, other questionable wether it would do me any good. SO HOW DO I CONTACT YOU TO TRY TO BUY WHAT YOU HAVE AND THAT I WANT? Was this last week passed the add off Craigs list for a cider press that a Amish friend was wanting me to find for him and acording to the add was just what he was wanting and price was right also BUT no contact because he was too dumb to answer a email, That is a bunch of bX!! Sx!!. Do I need to start trying to contact the American Civil liberty union that takes care of handicap discrimination? And hearing aids acording to the audoilogist? would not help me. email or snail mail is my only options. Is way to far for me to get to the friend (hour each way) and then try to take him to a phone so he could call and have nobody answer the phone.
 
Just tell them to call you at your home phone # (give it to them) Guarantee you will hear no more from them. Their next e-mail to you, if you bite, will be to accept pay pal from them as payment but you must send them your pay pal info. This only after their "shipper/mover" sees it and ok,s condition. Like I said , if they won't call your # , they are scam. Even the guy below with a hearing problem can get someone to call at least the first time to confirm .
 
Have you ever tried to get somebody for that? I am 68 now and parents are gone for years, no kids and any and all neighbors that were around are also gone. Have no idea who the new neighbors are. Wife works odd hours so unable to call at reasonable time but she has called on items several times. The thing is if she has to be at work at 7 in morning you should not be trying to call before that time, leave at 6:30 and by evening she is too tired to call, other times she does not get home from work till 10 at night, too late. Just not that easy to find someone to do it. A friend would do it but a 10 mile trip into town to try to find him and he being gone.
 
(quoted from post at 17:54:06 03/01/12) I was pased an add for what I was lookin for and price would have been right, BUT says no emails, only phone calls. NOW, WHAT IS A GUY LIKE ME TO DO? I HAVE HEARING PROBLEMS AND CANNOT USE THE PHONE. How do I contact you. You must not be interested in selling it.
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No sh!t............. I don't even pick up the phone (we have an answering machine) If we place ads, we don't give a phone number, only click contact in the ad and it emails us without them seeing the address. Then we answer and continue correspondence. But you get the real smart folks that google us and get our phone number from our website. We don't return the calls..... Had a couple folks just show up at the gate unannounced (address is on website) and they get sent packing unless they strike us as good folks.....
 
Bottom line is this , Dave and Leroy. If you just use e-mail/posting e-mail you WILL get the scammers. Scammers WILL NOT call you on the phone. I have yet to get a phone call from someone not truely interested in the item. Everyone has limitations of some sort , I'm just sayin' , if you don't want scammers , don't do e-mail , until after initial phone contact. Then e-mail all you want with that buyer/seller.
 
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