I read the post below about the free area calculator, so I checked it out and figured out the acreages on a lot of the farm ground in my area. We are in mixed hills and swamps, so all of our fields are odd shaped, even if the lot is a quarter or half section. What I think is so funny is that without fail, every old-timers ground I measured, they had over-estimated the acreage cleared by 40% or more. I know google earth has made it easier to measure, but I am surprised how far off most were. One claimed 70 acres, really 42. My nieghbor claimed 180, more like 90. One guy is renting out 80 acres of hay, really has 33 cleared acres. One guy who is trying to sell me his half section claims 75 cleared, only 47.

And I did check the accuracy against a known area, spot on.
 
(quoted from post at 01:09:59 02/13/12) With the odd shapes, or being smaller than claimed? ;)

with the fact that they didn't have as much property as they thought they did of course....... No idea what you were thinking :roll:
 
Hmm. If any of that property was ever enrolled in a federal farm program, those old pharts know right to a tenth of an acre how much land they have under tillage. Charging double the going rent by overstating your acreage is what some would call being a good businessman.
 
Federal farm programs are pretty much unheard of in my area, after the state killed all the dairies in the `60s up here any mention of a subsidy was met with a bit of hostility. 100 miles south of here all the farm ground was cleared under a state subsidy program, so they all know how much they have.
 
Sounds like those old-timers are holding back more than just their actual acreage. Never met a farmer who turned down a subsidy. Of course, if they tell their tenants that they're getting a check, those tenants might want a cut.
 
I know alot of old farmers around here who have cash rented their farms. They all hate the word "Garmin". Buddy of mine a few years ago was thinking about putting in a bid for some cash rented ground. Went out and bought one of the little hand held GPS jobs. Said he went around all the fields twice because the numbers he was getting were so far off from the what the farmer said they were. He bought the GPS unit hope'n it would pay for it's self, ended up pay'n for it's self and the four wheeler he was ride'n on.

As for the odd shaped fields, many fields and whole farms around here that were put together by meets and bounds look like bird poo splater when you look at them on a map.

Dave
 
Ah, hate to disappoint you, but no. When I say these old boys did not accept subsidies, I mean it. The one mentioned that is renting out 33 acres is the only one to ever have a cash tenant, and he is also the only one I would suspect of being dishonest. He is also an engineer, not a farmer, the rest all homesteaded there ground and cleared it.

I may have been misunderstood, I did not mean to suspect any of these old farmers of being dishonest, except maybe with themselves. I can see thinking you have opened more ground than you did when you did it from scratch with a JD B, and later a JD 440 crawler in one oldtimers case. Most of these guys came back after the war, and seemed to want to do there own thing and be left alone, and government subsidy programs killed off every dairy in this town (including my grandpas), so none of the these old boys were gonna take a handout. We may be the furthest north, but we are definately a bunch of rebels.
 

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