Y verses V-whats the difference

DeltaRed · Jan 27, 2012

Just read about the 292 'Y' block.How does it differ from a 'V' block? Thanks,Steve

donjr · Jan 27, 2012

Probably so some fool could ask 'Y' not a v- block---

Anonymous-0 · Jan 27, 2012

Deeper skirt to the block. Extends along the sides of the main bearings. The FE series Fords (390, 428,etc) are built the same way.

Animal · Jan 27, 2012

I played with the old Y blocks alot when I was a teen age hot rodder, I put one in a ford falcon, and it ran good. The old y block was a low revving low end torqe engine. It would not wind like a small block chevy, but you could gear it up in the rear end and usually catch them on the big end. The last one I fooled with I knocked the rods out of at 5k with a three duece set up. I think the difference between the Y and the 332,352,390 was the rod angle was different, which let them stay together at higher rpm. But make no mistake that y block 272,292, or 312 was a whale of a truck engine in its day..

DeltaRed · Jan 27, 2012

I kinda though that might be it.Thanks,Steve

DeltaRed · Jan 27, 2012

I remember a few older Ford grain trucks when I was a kid.I was impressed about how much power they had-still am.Steve

Janicholson · Jan 28, 2012

Exactly, the skirt of the block (oil pan bolt surface) is about 2.5 or so inches below the center line of the main bearings. It added stiffness to the structure. The engine series was reliable but had an under square design, and poor carburation (2 Bbl, or weird haystack 4 Bbl) that provided no advantage. It was also heavy. I like them for reliability, and authenticity in cars it was put into, but there are better choices. Jim

MarkB_MI · Jan 28, 2012

I had a '55 Ford with a 272 "Y-block" engine. It was without a doubt the quietest engine I've ever seen, probably due in part to all that extra cast iron. I used to sneak up on my friends in parking lots. They wouldn't hear the car coming until I was a couple of feet behind them, when the tapping of the mechanical tappets would give me away.

DH in Carolina · Jan 28, 2012

Remenber the outside rocker arm oiler kit you could buy to get oil to the rockers?

chucksoliver77 · Jan 28, 2012

steve, maybe ford did have a better idea, most of todays v-8s are now Y blocks including chevy. chuck

Anonymous-0 · Jan 28, 2012

Got a 292 with the 3 duece set up that I put into a 49 Ford pickup. Sitting in my yard with a broken rear axle for the past 15+ years. Sure had a lot of fun with it back in the early eighties during the height of the badly desmogged "performance" car era.

Tx Jim · Jan 28, 2012

Back in my youth in the mid 60's my nephew had a '56 Fairlane with a 292/3 sp trans that took a real good running 327 Chev to outrun it in a 1/4 mile drag race. My nephew trashed several 3 speed OD trans. He was told some Mercury 3 sp trans would hold up but they didn't.

MarkB_MI · Jan 28, 2012

Another "Y-block" engine of similar vintage was the massive GMC V-6, produced from 1963 to 1978. It was a 60 degree engine, very heavy with lots of low-end torque. And expensive to manufacture.

Fordfarmer · Jan 28, 2012

The FE series - the engines with an intake the size and weight of Montana.

(I can't take credit for that - read it in Mustang Monthly)

BushogPapa · Jan 28, 2012

I had a '55 Ford.352 Police Interceptor engine..

I could not keep a trans behind that engine..until I put a '55 Merc T-85 Overdrive behind it..that held behind that (360 HP) engine for 3 years..
I since had put a 4-Speed in the '55 and still have the Overdrive trans..
Man, that was a FUN car..!!
Ron.

BushogPapa · Jan 28, 2012

You should see the size of the valves in my Medium Riser 427 Ford Heads WITH Tunnel-Port Valves...!!!
Have the Cam to match if anyone is interested..

Ron..

Anonymous-0 · Jan 28, 2012

Best exhaust burble EVER!!!

The Dukester · Jan 28, 2012

That's the truth....I had a beautiful '55 Mercury Montclair 2dr. hardtop that was really nice...but pretty SLOW with that 198 hp 292 Y block Vee 8 with that ?$%^*($# stacked Holley 4bbl. carburetor and choked at every turn intake system. I loved that car though in spite of it not being the fastest thing on wheels and sure wish I had it today.....

GVSII · Jan 28, 2012

(quoted from post at 06:20:33 01/28/12) Remenber the outside rocker arm oiler kit you could buy to get oil to the rockers?

What I remember is an "un-oiler" to get oil out of the valve covers and back to the pan.

Brian G. NY · Jan 28, 2012

Like was said by others below, the crankcase "skirts" were longer than most other V-8s at the time. Of course it was just another catchy phrase that they used to try to sell more cars.
I knew 2 different guys that bought "surplused" '57 Ford NYS Police "interceptor" cars with the HD T-85 3 Spd. Overdrive trannys. They were very, very fast
and with the exception of the ultra rare supercharged racing versions,the most powerful Y-Blocks ever built.
BTW, one of the owners was killed while driving his car at at an estimated speed of something over 120 MPH. His passenger and good friend was severely brain damaged as a result of that accident as well.

Dean · Jan 28, 2012

I have always been fond of the GMC 60 degree V6 family of engines. They were available in various sizes up to 478 CI and more. The spark plugs are inside the V between the intake ports.

Dean

Dean · Jan 28, 2012

To me, the most interesting feature of the Y block was the stacked intake ports.

Very strange looking when disassembled.

Dean

Brian G. NY · Jan 28, 2012

Almost as good a sound as a flathead V-8 with any kind of glasspacks or a Chevy Six with a Fenton "split" manifold and a set of "Smittys"!!
I was there "in the day"!

VicS · Jan 28, 2012

I had the sharpest 57, 2 door hardtop, you ever saw flipper hub caps on the front and cruiser fender skirts on the rear. Seek and sound radio. Black with a red interior. 312 auto, had the new 4 bbl holley. Also I had put a 3/4 cam in it. While I was at it chamfered the block and the heads where the oil came up, used series 3 oil. Never had any trouble with it oiling. Bottom line I thought it was hot, until my best friend got a 348 Chevy with a power glide. It would run off and hide from me. Ford said a 312 had 246 hp and the 348 was 250. Ford lied. These cars were about 5 years old by the time we could afford them on our dollar hr jobs. lol Vic

Tx Jim · Jan 29, 2012

(quoted from post at 18:54:35 01/28/12) Also I had put a 3/4 cam in it lol Vic

Vic
How did a cam get the title of 3/4? 3/4 of what? Maybe it could indicate 3/4 the valve opening duration. Do you know as I never actually knew.

Anonymous-0 · Jan 29, 2012

From what I understand, in the old flathead days some manufaturers sold "race cams" and "3/4 race cams". Milder cams for street use, but hotter than stock. Really just a slang term with little real meaning.

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