Deer meat tasting different???

JDseller

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Seeing larry@stinescorner's post below on deer stew made me remember to ask this. My sister and my BIL love all wild game an really like deer. They have complained the last few years that the deer around here have lost much of their "game" taste. My sister thinks it is because of the heavy corn/soybean diet that the deer now have since just about everything is cropped any more.

I am not a good judge. I never have cared for deer meat. I just don't like the taste. I used to really like squirrel meat but now would just as soon see them running around. I have a freezer full of beef and pork. So Why would I want a stinking old deer??? LOL
 
Corn and bean fed may just make a big difference. Son in law makes a big deal, along with a few neighbors, about going out to the western Maryland mountains every year to go hunting. D@mned things are eating us out of house and farm here in the eastern part of the state, where we have grain. They feed on more brush and understory in the mountains, and definately don't taste as good. But, 40 or 50 years ago it was a joy to see deer around here, and due to good game management, we can now take 36 here in eastern Md. per hunter! We're now overrun with them, and the pansy treehuggers think it woud be easy to spay and nueter them to control the herd! Last week I read an article from some bimbo who felt it was terrible for hunters and farmers to give game to the local butchers who provided the meat to soup kitchens for free through a program to improve diets to the poor and hungry. She railed on and on about deer carrying lyme disease, chronic wasting disease, and a host of other maladies, and the poor folks were being poisoned instead of fed.

Which reminds me, I'd better get out some backstrap medallions for supper tomorrow--
 
Deer is still some of the leanest meat around. Ours don't have the outdoor taste as years ago, but its cooked with an orange slice to hide some of it.
 
After 40yrs of hunting in my expierence it seems that all venison recipes were designed to make deer meat not taste like deer meat.There are a million opinions on what manner it was killed,how it was prepared,how it was cooked and so on and so on.For me what I have recently realized as I reach into my senior years is that all these years of hunting wasnt about the meat.Now granted I and all of my hunting friends and family probably have been fortunate enough to never of been hungry a day in our lives.So why did we hunt and process all that venison,you might ask?Because it was fun!!!It was about the prep,the getting together,taking off work,the stories,the card games,etc,etc,.I hunted alone the entire season this year for the first time in 40yrs.Son couldnt hunt this year,friends are too old,too sick or gone and some have completely lost interest.Took a nice buck opening day,cant remember last time I took a doe and they are plentiful.Have eaten venison maybey three times since.Am in the process of giving the rest away,none will go to waste.So as to your question"does the deer taste different now".Yeah I guess it does,in my house anyways.

Good Luck

Stan
 
Venison around here tastes to varying degrees of liver mixed with cedar needles. Even with all the free choice corn, beans, mixed grain and beans they can eat.
While I had some excellent crock pot roasts. It's safer to just grind all the meat into burger and make pepperettes, chili etc.
 
You are what you eat - at least that's how I figure it. That said, around here, corn, oats, soys, alfalfa/grass hay make up a good chunk of their diet. So you would assume they'd taste a lot like grain fed beef, which isn't all bad. If they're down in the swamps, eating cedar and bark, all bets are off. Then there's the problem of what were they doing just before they were hunted.... Were they spooked and running scared - adrenalin can taint the meat. And how quickly did they die? Then what happend after death? Were they cleaned and cooled quickly? Processed in a timely manner? I for one don't believe in aging the meat. Sooner it's in the freezer, happier I am. But then I don't care for "gamy" meat. We've had over the years, some that tasted just like grain fed beef, and others that you couldn't disguise with spices, flavoring, hamburg helper, etc. - to get it past your pallet.
 
Wow, is that a general deer hunting permit or a nuisance permit. Here in Ohio, we have separate permits for hunters and farmers. Famers, or any person with deer damage to their business can use the nuisance permit to take 20 deer.
I wish they would give 20 kills per hunter. I have had two cars totaled by deer hits. Lots of money out of my pocket just do some urban do-gooder can see a deer in their backyard.
 
(quoted from post at 07:00:22 01/09/12) Wild taste is normally spoiled meat because it didn't get to the freezer quick enough

You just ruined life for a lotta folks......... :shock:
 
I have a uncle that lives in Idaho and hunted there and the surounding states and said most areas he hunted was pine woods and he said the deer out there tasted like pine cones and the ones from here in Indiana tasted so much better . When we was young and raising our two girls and buying a farm we would have got hungry if it was not for deer and othere game and the garden . I will never forget my five yr. old daughter telling me one time she was hungery and to go kill somthing , she knew where dinner came from . Had alot of folks eat at the house that said they did not like deer but after eating our cooking they changed there minds . Deer is like anything , if you dont know how to cook it it wont be any good . My area has more woods than crop land but they do get plenty of alfalfa . There are a few crop fields around so they do get to brouse them . I dont know if they taste any different othere that we have learned better cooking procedures . I still kill several deer but most of the meat gos for jerky and summer sausage , the freezer is full of beef and pork now . When the girls and there familys come down to help in the garden and look over the fence they know there looking at dinner .
 
There has always been in a difference in the meat taste and texture, of deer taken north in the Adirondack Park, and those taken in more southern zones, but then again we have plenty of mountainous areas in the south too, in addition to agriculture land, where it may have no game/wild like taste. Take one in nearby mountains, might reflect their diet, might not, they travel quite a bit to ag areas.

What escapes me is that people will say they are corn fed, or whatever is grown in fields by farmers, but they are browsers, and how long is corn or other grown things really available, they don't touch it around here until its close to harvest,(grain) what about all that's chopped. They come out like crazy right after a combine does a field, but that's whatever was missed, dropped etc. if you get one then, examine the stomach contents likely to be corn, but if you were to do the same at different times, not going to be the case.

Oats, they don't touch the grain, they may bed in it and lay down taller stands of it, it gets harvested, whatever falls through germinates, or birds get it. The deer absolutely love oat grass late season, they like the regrowth after harvest, and will stay on whats left or grows back right into winter, often times at the base of the plant. I plowed and disc'd strips in an oat field after harvest, oat grass came up real nice, and I took deer while there was oats in our field and 50 acres of it surrounding, stomach contents was all grass in each one, the meat was outstanding, taste and texture.

Farmer stopped doing crops except hay, so our field is fallow, nothing for em at all, weed killer from previous year still working, big change in deer traffic, the only green was orchard grasses and similar where I cut other fields and small areas, real green, but they browse it, not graze it. Stomach contents this year was all kinds of things, wild to the area, from apples, including small crab/cherry size ones which are abundant, some berries off prickers, yellow, almost looks like corn. Surrounding fields are in corn, harvest was during archery season, sometime before rifle, every deer taken here, no corn in the stomach, and there is reasonable expectation that whats left behind does take a while for em to exhaust as they will always browse those areas.

I could not really tell any difference in the meat, ones taken were around 3 years, killed instantly, gutted, skinned, cut up, trimmed and froze that day or the following morning, think I hung one overnight this year, each the meat was excellent, I grilled trimmings and other small cuts from different areas after each one.


Now last year, I carefully waited out an old doe, she was around 200 lbs, teeth worn right out, was eating oat grass heavily, like the others, but I think due to age, that meat was gamey enough to notice. Some observations from around here.

Friend and his son were out hunting, dad got a very nice 6 pt buck, there's 40 acres of corn, but long since harvested, the rest woods and swamp, that back strap was like a good piece of beef, impressive at how good it was. Good practice to get em skinned, cut up, trimmed and packed into the freezer immediately, as well as making a clean/immediate kill, though I've hit em in the spine, and had to finish em off too, can't hide that fact on longer shots it can happen, never had any adverse effect on the meat. I will say getting that fat trimmed off, and the whole thing cut up immediately, froze has to be the best policy, I like aged meat, but it has to be done under controlled circumstances, at a certain but stable temperature, humidity etc. if I am correct, let that venison age differently, results may not be what you expect, I've tried it.
 
I have only had venison three times in my life. Two of those were similar to buickanddeere's experience: LIVER and PineSol!

If that is the "gamey" taste that people crave, I don't get it. I'd rather eat cow tongue, which is another disgusting flavor: Motor oil and old hamburger grease.

The last venison I had was a steak, medium rare, and was the best steak I've had, ever. It tasted like MEAT, very flavorful.
 
ive eaten nearly all deer for the last 25 years or so. The longer you hang one brings out the wild flavor in game. If you take it directly out of the feild and process it it has a whole lots less gamy flavor.Ive let them hang for as much as two weeks in cold enough temps,and they allways taste stronger.I'm not a big fan of the wild taste myself,I much prefer to have mine in the freezer within 24 hrs,but like i say sometimes you cant do it.what they eat does make a difference though,does on any animal,thats why we fatten cattle on corn.It will even flavor the milk in dairy cows.But most of that taste is stored in the fat and marbling.Since thats what breaks down first in the aging process it imparts more flavor to the meat to game animals.This same idea,goes for cattle. Leaner cattle that are taken from pasture straight to slaughter has less taste of the plants they eat than fatter breed.If you take say a really fat angus calf straight off native plants and age it for 30 days ,very often the taste is so strong you cant eat it.Especialy if its been out in the sage brush or something. Really lean old longhorn or the like,with little fat and marbling in the meat,can be aged without the taste being over powering. Longhorn and deer are quite similar as far as marbling goes,both are quite lean.by aging them you sort of let them stew in their own juices so to speak.This brings out more of the flavor of the plants they have eaten,while at the same time its tenderizing.most folks dont like the wild taste and thats why they say they dont like deer.one thats been taken straight from the feild,processed and frozen the same day will have very little of it. I dont know how many folks have ate deer at our house and never knew it that asked the wife for a recipe.
 
I eat alot of Deer meat its low in fat and low in cholesterol and I perfer it to beef most ways.Plus since hunters that hunt my farm give me all I want its free, wife and I usually work up 10 to 15 a year and put it in the freezer.'Gamey' taste is usually a result of being mishandled after its killed but just like beef, diet has an effect on the taste of the meat.We also make deer jerky in a variety of flavors in the dehydrator and its tops any beef jerky I've ever eaten.
 
Red wolf,

No speak with forked tongue. I'm in Maryland. Here in the eastern part of the state, we can take 10 anterless and 2 antlered deer in each of 3 seasons in bow, muzzle loader and shotgun types of hunting. That's 36. In the western part of the state, out in the mountains, the limit is one doe and one buck in each of three seasons, or six more. Total is actually 42 per hunter. I haven't filled a permit in years!

As for taste, deer around here eat about everything, grasses in season and understory when they have to. I've had bales out in the winter in the field, and I don't believe they've ever touched them even when they were the only thing sticking above the snow. But in season, they'll graze anything they can reach, corn and beans especially, but hay and alfalfa and small grains are also favored.

Most of the off taste in venison is caused by hunters not knowing how to field dress a deer, and rupturing the bladder during gutting, or miisng the sweet spot during a shot (the chest cavity with a heart and lung shot) and gut shooting the animal. No matter where we shot one, our main goal after field dressing is to get the carcass up and open to cool down and to get a hose on it and wash it out well to get the dirt, hair and any other body fluids out before it contaminates the meat. Hanging it for a few days helps to tenderize the meat much the same as beef. We also take time to strip the meat of as much 'silver side' as possible when we cut the meat. Seems to make the meat taste even better, especially the backstraps. But the deer from the western part of the state don't have quite as much flavor, and we often use a piece of beef fat when cooking to give it more flavor. I'd also rather eat doe than buck. Bucks tend to be tougher, but not much different in taste. Still some of the best meat around as far as I'm concerned- it's what's for dinner!
 
I normally cut off the shoulders, hind quarters, tenderloins and put them in a clean cooler. Mix half a cup of salt and water then fill to the top of the meat. The next day I drain the water off and repeat. Thenext day I drain and cover completely with ice and debone it the next, then grind and make sausage the next day.
 

if hunters were the sole buyers of live stock for slaughters houses to process for consumers the only meat availiable to buy in a store would be old stinking billy goat, boar hog and bull meat. tough as whale bone . i have yet to find a recipe for deer horn.
 
We have eaten so much deer, pretty much since birth no one in our family really picks up the difference with a few exceptions. Deer we have shot out of a swampy area, or very heavy with ferns, have a gamey taste.

No problem though, add a little more bbq sauce or use it in stew or chili.

Rick
 
I chunk mine in 1" cubes and soak mine for a day in my cooler at 33 deg. F. then mix ground and frozen beef fat at 20% then grind bag and freeze you cant tell it from beef when you cut it up get all the deer fat off that is where the wild game taste is and get all the blood out the colder it is when you grind it the better it is been doin it this way for years my wife likes it real well
 

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