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JD Farmer

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"I don't have a son but my daughter helps me with such as this and I'd be damned if I put her at risk"

Quote taken from my post about spreading lime.

Well I have a daughter too.....here she is helping me in that same hay field a few summers ago.

All you candy asses can keep your mouth shut!

I don't see it as putting them at risk, more like educating them to be more than able to do for thereselves, and not be one of the "protected from life's lessons....living in a padded cell" types.
I hate what this country has become, what happened to the home of the free and the land of the brave?
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I don't see kids sitting on fenders Nor tractors on side hills with the loader raised.
Other than no seat belt being worn but the terrain is relatively flat.
Fortunately your daughter got her looks from her Mother.
 
You done fine, so is the daughter. When mine was young her friends teased her that "Kim has COWS"

Looks safe to me

John T
 
Only thing I saw was no seat belt. I"ve been guilty of that more than once.

Just make sure the brakes on the tractor are good going down those hills. Two wagons would give that tractor a good push.

BTW, my daughters help too. Doesn"t hurt them to get some fresh air and a little work. I give them age appropriate work

Rick
 
BRAKES......go back to the house Rick, before you kill someone.

Using brakes in these situations get you shoved over the hill and into the holler.....ever hear of putting it in the "right" gear and letting the engine do the braking??

My guess is you are a flatlander!
 
You are a lucky guy to have a daughter that is interested in helping out.

My 2 daughters and I have been fishing Lake Michigan for Salmon since they were about 8 years old. We have a great relationship and we always practiced safe boating.
 
That's great parenting right there. You see how most kids r these days. I have a 3 month old and I'm gonna be there to raise her right. Can't wait to buy her a horse! Hopefully going to the barn everyday with me at least when she's older she will like the horses. If not than daddy will get another horse for himself! Lol,Those square bales look real nice too!
 
Fine looking operator for an ugly green and yeller tractor! :lol:

I agree with you about the safety nazis, JD. Eliminating every single risk in every you do just isn't feasible. In my opinion, you become a far better operator by having been at the limits of a machine and knowing how to react when things go wrong. Every person who I have done trenching projects for has said that they have no second thoughts about working right next to my backhoe boom. It's not because of safety paranoia on my part; it's because of my absolute knowledge of my machine and how to handle it.

I also grew up running Honda 185 trikes. Fast. Without a helmet. I never got hurt once. Why? I never became complacent, I never thought "I have a helmet, I'll be just fine, I'll go a bit faster here".

"Your head is more than just a hat rack." It's a saying I live by.

Lyndon
A member of the younger generation rebelling against the nanny state.
 
I see nothing wrong and everything right about what she is doing. By running machinery she is learning safety lessons that could save her from harm later on in life. Jim
 
While I have a son, he isn't in to dirty rough work, especially the part about "Work". It's my daughter that does most of the work with me around here. From reading what yall write about your daughters and work, I'ld say our next generation will be eating the food grown by girls and decorated by our color coordinated sons. My little girl can drive a tractor collect the eggs and help drywall. She can also change the oil, change a tire and check the fluids of the truck. Her brother couldn't find his butt, with both hands in his back pocket.
 
Yes JD, I do know how to use gearing to "engine brake" but there are still situations where the brakes may be needed.

So am I to assume you have unhooked your brakes since you don't need them?
 
As a former true USN Safety Officer, and OSHA consultant I Do have a dog in this fight.
I don't see a seat belt in use, nor hearing protection, nor eye protection. And the "shirt" Good way to bake your skin and start a few basil cells growing. But perhaps she has a good dose of sunscreen at least #9 on.
Do we count hands not on the wheel at ten and two? Has she been on the job longer than 10 hours? Is she wearing steel toe boots?
You get an extra large cookie for light loading the wagons

Keep posting. we Nazis need the opportunity to hone our skills. LOL
 
I must admit I saw your earlier post and questioned the strap location on the three point hitch.I thought about it snapping and someone getting hit (I never even noticed the ROPS being down) You know as well as I do that the most bizarre accidents happen to people that work hard(farmers) and we depreciate the hazard factor because the job "has to be done".
A example is the young man who was killed locally last week we he fell in a rock crusher or a neighbor farmer a few years back that was killed when hauling heavy round bales down a steep grade similar to yours and jack-knifed and flipped.
Be safe and be around to enjoy the holidays.
 
Using brakes on wet clay,or dry ground,snow ect,going down hill is like skiing, better to use a low gear , touching the brakes makes the tractor slide.
 
Great pics JD. Like the hay pics and the lime spreadin pics. Yep Im one of those flatlanders.lol.We dont have to many steep slopes like that here in SW Indiana. Gota have some nerves of steel on those hills Id say. I dont see any thing wrong with what your doin. If it works for you and your comfortable with it thats what matters. Theres alot of things we do as farmers that someone with limited experience bein on the farm would consider "safe". Dont let it get your BP up. I dont know you never met you but Im sure your like the rest of us farmers in that your not gonna risk your family or equipment doing something If you dont think its safe.
 
I'm a little tired of the term nazi though.
Nazi this and that.
I think I'll start calling it a safety fetish - those folks who can't do anything without a committee and a checklist...
I think we will never succeed in turning our women into menfolk either. But we've turned a lot of lads in to girls in this country.
 
A long-time poster calls the folks you're talking about "city farmers"; 'course they could be 'flatlanders'. You gotta question the skill level of anyone who can't SAFELY pull from a three-point hitch.
 
It's been my experience that "safety Nazis", OSHA, Safety Officers cause more harm then what they are worth. While they help little, the hinder a LOT.
 
Good looking farm JD. Checked out the lime spreading post and looks like you had things well in hand. We do alot of dangerous things on farms on a daily basis. I suppose to some people it looks like we do these things without thought but, as I'm sure is the case with your lime spreading, we take these tasks very seriously and are diligent with our saftey and the saftey of others.
If ya ever need a hand I'll come pull ya up that little hill.
bill
 
Thanks Bill.
I enjoy seeing your pics of your farm too. Just wish I had your nice laying fields. But then I'd go to sleep before I had to turn around.
 
LOL.....right there is your problem.....guess they paid you well to keep all them dumba$$ squids inline.....I can only imagine.....I was there for 4 years between 70 and 74....yep, they needed safety schooling to keep from accidentally killing themselves!!
 
Well If I owned a tractor new enough to have seat belts I still wouldn"t wear them. Things look safe enough to me. Not loading facing up hill nor are the bales loaded very high and tied in good. I like that spear setup on the 3pt. How do you get it to lift high enough to get them on that wagon. I"m a flat lander by those hills. You just have to learn to respect them and not get over confident or let yourself get too comfortable with the job.
Just like driving in mountains.
 
Cat guy thats called a sissor lift and the hydraulic cylinder is what gives it the height needed to stack 2 layers on a wagon or in the barn. Since those pics were taken we got the front end loader on the 4520 CUT and we can stack them 3 high with it in the barn. Never use the sissor lift any more.
 
I knew I was going to enjoy this chat when I opened it up! My boys are still very young so I am still a one-man show. However, I have already started explaining to my 4 year old how I'm doing things safely, and how the obvious thing (ie. braking on a slope) isn't necessarily the best action.
When I push the manure pile in low 2nd, he runs up to the house for his ear muffs because he knows that's the only time he can ride with me.
I've got zero experience with slopes like yours, and all of my equipment is older, without ROPS, etc. I take pride in doing things with minimal risk, and trying to identify hazards before they pose a problem.
Your Olivia will be a treasure to someone who wants the country life.
Jay
 
You may know your machine and you be a excellent operator. I say a guy running a backhoe and is very good on it. All of a sudden it swung to the left. Operater had no control of it.
Just remember that anything man made can break or fail. Thats when injury or deaths occur. But sets in for people that happens to them or somebody close.
Yes, I understand that somethings must get done, but nothing it worth getting hurt or killed over!
 
The trick is to know when to get off the brakes, and get back on the throttle to get the tractor back ahead of those wagons!
BTDT, JMHO, Dave
 
Just ask my son at a Christmas dinner (wife's side) when will my grandson be out of school for Christmas. He said Wednesday, I said good I will be down to get him to help chore. Son just rolled his eyes at me like try it.. Grandson just turned 6. Got to teach them while they are wenting to learn. He needs to be setting in that pickup and watching every move I make when feeding.
 
I looked at your other post as well and that looks like some nice looking country. I like it. I guess you could call my area flatlands, you can see for miles. As far as the rest the best saftey feature made is the application of common sense. For all anyone knows we might step out our front doors and trip over the dog and its all over. However locking outselves in the house and refusing to come out isn't living either. Oh your daughter's very nice looking as well and if she's ever in Kansas i'd be happy to show her around.
 

I think, when you read my new post on your other (Lime) post, you may understand why I had to make that post..

I hope your shorts don't stay in a Bunch for too long...!

Ron..
 
Though they may have safety cabs etc, take a look at Utube....Landmachinen steer drive . you will see how steep the hills that are foraged in Europe are!
Sam
 
Many, many people feel that safety precautions are a waste of time and companies and government overstepping their bounds. I would invite anyone who is of that belief to visit their local ER or physical therapist and ask those patients if they think safety is a waste of time. Better yet, visit the local funeral home and ask the lady wearing black who is standing next to the casket.

I don't have a dog in this particular fight but as part of my job I teach my students safety procedures for wood, metal and auto shop. You better believe that I hit it hard and mean it. If you break a safety rule in my shop you get reminded. Break another and you are sitting for the day. Is the failure of a hydraulic jack a once in a million? Sure is. Do you want to be under the car when that one in a million happens? Will the total of 5 hours worth of time that you saved in your life not going to get jack stands be a good trade off for not being able to walk again?

While many things that people bemoan safety regs and equipment for are one in a million occurrences that does in and of itself prove that those accidents do indeed happen. They are once in a million, not never in a million.
 
Just poking a little fun at ya. You seem to jump at everyone that makes one contradictory statement to your post. I am very familar with clay, thats all we have here. Yes, I have even used my brakes when the clay has been wet. Still here to talk about it, didn"t have my seat belt on either.

I didn"t say a thing about your other lime spreading post, because it is popular belief on this board that only an 8N can flip over backwards all other tractors are immune. And this is only if the 8N is hooked to a tree stump.

I guess I don"t get all worked up when someone posts somthing I don"t 100% agree with. I"m gonna go adjust my brakes now.
 
Hey JDJACK, I know what you mean. I've seen catastrophic breakdowns happen in the length of time it takes to blink. As an operator you always have to bear in mind what could happen and the consequences of it. There is no excuse for reckless conduct and putting people at unnecessary risk. The problem is defining what is acceptable and what isn't. It's a large grey zone, and we'll never get everyone to agree on it.

Ok, I gotta go have my meds now. Keep me sane. Sort of. :twisted:
 
Those hay wagons aren't gonna push her with three high and a triple tie. I see nothing wrong with your lime pictures as long as you are careful. I know of older gents using rops, seat belts and cages driving long ways along a pond and drowning when their tractor turned over in the mud or groundhog hole. Happens all the time. I should have been killed long ago but my luck was with me. I had a load of soybeans on a cart pulling it with a big six cylinder MF with radial duals down a hill and across a ditch. About halfway down I put the clutch in and let her go it was slipping so bad and wanting to jack knife. Scared me good, too.
 
What I see in the pictures is a couple of young people who were raised to work and think for themselves which puts them 100 miles ahead of 95% of people in general now days. They will be among the few who can plan and do the thinking for the other 95%, all the overblown rules are for the lazy and weak minded because those type of people have to be taken care of all their lives.
 
I remember decades ago being in a bar fight that my mother started, but didn't exactly, although she threw the first punch. No joke. We were all having a couple or so coctails at this bar, and someones kept saying something at us. We didn't know them, didn't notice them until they kept getting louder and louder that they noticed us until it became obvious that they wanted us to know that they noticed us. For a while, we ignored it. After enough was enough, Mom yelled "If they don't put the food in our mouths, the rooves over our heads, or the money in our pockets, feed the mother ......s fish", and the brawl began with her throwing the first punch. Sure, we got tossed out for the night, but we dragged them out with us. They fled for their lives and we never saw them again. In a week or few, we stopped back in as a family because we knew the folks that owned it and they knew us. We didn't cause trouble, but have been known a time or two to clear the place out when someone else got out of line. We were always invited back, so I don't guess that we were in the wrong, and we never broke the place up. That would be disrespectful.

JD, I saw nothing harmful here and missed the lime spreading. But take some advice from my Mom, because Mom's are never wrong, "If they don't put...", and then do what you've gotta do.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.


Mark
 
Very well put. I know two 40+ year old "boys" that are as helpless as a day old kitten, there mommy still baby's them.
 
The Nazis sent some guys around about people pouching deer or something like that. They must have found what they were looking for, because I ain't seen them in a while. Funny how so many of them Washington great ideas don't always get enforced way out here.
 
Looks good to me. It always makes me chuckle at what some people consider to be slopes and hills. It looks like what you've got lays similar to most of what we farm, some is steeper and some not as much.
 
Reminds me of putting up prairie hay on some of the slopes around here, nothing wrong with it so long as your eyes and ears are on the task at hand.
 
Ron, sorry you had to ever go to a scene like that. I think the point you made about his feet still on the pedals went unread, or not understood.

When bad things happen, they happen FAST!
 
i will get a pic of my 4 1/2 year old daughter scraping freestall barn with the skidloader. Good thing its all hand controls.
 
the only thing i see wrong here is thats shes pulling two. I can tear up all kinds of stuff on my place just pulling one and i hate to see the ladies out do me!LOL I always said how you can tell where a tractor came from was if it had brakes or not.if it does it probably came out of the hills,simply because those folks knew enough to keep their foot off them and their tractors in gear so they never wore them out!
 
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