Cat 416 backhoe question

Rick Kr · Dec 13, 2011

I always ask questions on here because there is a lot of experience and knowledge.

Anyway I am looking at a 1990 CAT 416 series II backhoe 4x4.

Overall, are they a good reliable machine?

The boom "looks" skinny compared to the newer CATs and JDs, similar to a 580C boom. Is this a weak point or nothing to worry about?

Front tires are 10.5-20. This seems like an odd size, I did find a few used. But price is more compared to 10 or 12-16.5. Am I not looking in the right place?

Machine is in pretty good shape. A few hoses need attention here and there and most pins/bushings are good, not tight, but not trashed. This is a farm use machine, not trying to start a business.

Rick

Anonymous-0 · Dec 13, 2011

The boom is nothing to worry about, as far as I know there is nothing wrong with those bachoes, how many hours on the machine???

EX 450 Owner · Dec 13, 2011

The one my son had was a good backhoe, great hydraulics you could dig even with the unit throttled down.

My biggest criticism was that you did not have good visibility of the loaders bucket edge.

ohiojim · Dec 13, 2011

brother has a cat 416 that is hugh, built like a tank,...nothing like a case boom on it

Rick Kr · Dec 13, 2011

Here"s the one I am looking at (just a picture I grabbed off the net). The second pict, you can see how much more stout the boom is.

Lyle it has approx 4700 hours. Looks pretty good, clean, and tight for its age. Needs tires, cutting edge and 8 hoses.

RodinNS · Dec 13, 2011

I don't think I'd worry too much about the hoe. What I would make a point of checking is the brakes. If they're grinding and chattering or don't stop well you're in for a fairly expensive repair. When the plates get worn to that stage they also tend to shed a lot of material that causes a lot of havoc with valves..
I'm not really familiar with the Cat's plumbing but I assume that they use a common resevoir with the trans/axle.
The powertrain of that machine excepting the engine are Ford components... and for whatever reason Cat recomended the use of their own oil PLUS a friction modifier additive for the brakes. Lot of guys don't use the additive (at least the machines I've observed locally).... and they don't use 134D/TDH either.... so you see a lot of 5000 hour Cat hoes with brakes shelled out.
It's a mess to clean up on top of 2-3K in parts.

Bottom line... if you drive the machine at a good clip it should stop briskly with no grinding and little noise generally and certainly NO chatter from the brakes..

Rod

Yukon3639 · Dec 13, 2011

We had one and wAs very happy with it. Sold it with 6000hrs very little repair dollars

Rick Kr · Dec 13, 2011

Thanks Rod,

I will definitely pay attention to the brakes. Didn"t have a chance to run it at a good clip. But will hopefully this weekend.

Rick

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