Buying rifle

Good day, I'm looking at buying a new rifle. I had my heart set on the ruger 10-22. Mostly for driving tacks, maybe the occasional raccoon or coyote. Was wanting your thoughts on the gun what is involved in buying a rifle? Thanks fellas.

I have had one a long time and like it. Mine has the plastic stock and I put good scope on it and seems to be very reliable.

Ruger 10 22 is a very good plinking rifle. If it were me I would get the 10 22 and get your self a 223. If you are going after racoons and coyotes you should have more knock down power then a 22.

Don't know,but if you're really looking for a recomendation,I've got a Henry .22 Carbine. Now that's a nice little varmint rifle! The wife whacked a heck of a bunch of woodchucks around here with it this year.

My dad bought me a Ruger 10-22 when I was a kid, have had it for about 17 years now, never have had any problems with it. They are a great little rifle and still affordable. For a raccoon or coyote I"d want something a little bigger like a .223, as another poster suggested. Ruger mini-14 is a great choice, about the same size as a 10-22 and recoil is comparable to the .22.

As for buying a rifle, kind of depends on where you live. In Iowa you can get a permit to acquire (permit to carry works as well) and can walk out of the store with gun in hand that day. I"d suggest talking to the folks at the gun store.

I would not care to buy any other semi-auto .22 rifle. I have the target barrel on my 10/22 its a really nice tackdriver for the price. I like the fact that its a 10 round clip and it does not stick down below the bottom of the gun. As far as buying it it depends upon your state. Will have to do the federal backround check.

22 rimfire is a bit light for coyotes; you would be better off with a centerfire rifle if think you'll be shooting 'yotes. On the other hand, any cartridge capable of reliably knocking out a coyote is going to be pretty loud, so think about where you'll be doing your shooting.

I'm not a big fan of the 10-22, but it's a popular, reasonably priced gun.

1. Are you a US citizen? If yes then good.
2. Buying a firearm means you have to pass the background check and the 4473 federal transfer sheet. Then pay the money.
3. I own a savage .22 semi-auto rifle, open sights.
4. Ammo is cheap, about 500 rounds for $20 or so.

I have had a 10-22 for 30 years and I carried it coon hunting for years and never had a problem killing a coon. I probely went 20 years and was never cleaned properly. It is a very reliable gun. As far as coyotes it is a little light but it will kill them just not real well. All three of my boys own one also. I just got a add in the paper today and Gander Mt. has them on sale for under 200.00 GOOD BUY.

Bob

(quoted from post at 08:26:30 11/17/11) Good day, I'm looking at buying a new rifle. I had my heart set on the ruger 10-22. Mostly for driving tacks, maybe the occasional raccoon or coyote. Was wanting your thoughts on the gun what is involved in buying a rifle? Thanks fellas.

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Look for a .17 Fireball. It will do what your asking for.

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Look for a .17 Fireball. It will do what your asking for.

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I'm a big fan of the 17 Fireball, but ammo is absurdly expensive unless you handload (which I do).

One need not be a US citizen to purchase a gun. Resident aliens have the same rights to gun ownership as citizens. Non-resident aliens may also purchase if they meet certain criteria.

If your looking to buy a 22 its really hard to beat a 10-22. and you can buy about any option you could ever want right off the shelf. I agree with those who say a 22 is probably light for coyotes though, ive killed them with one but they were in a trap. Probably does kill them but they most likely suffer for many days before it does ,and thats not the way to do. Myself i would lean towards something in 223 for coyotes. The ammo is cheap. I've carried a 22 hornet quite a bit but the ammo is expensive. Honestly though ,for around a farm, probably a 12 ga pump shot gun is more versitile if your only going to buy one gun. Ive shot everything from deer on down with one with the right ammo. On the other hand a good 22 is a lot of fun! I paid $50 for one of those romainian single shot 22 training rifles. its deadly accurate and would make a good knock around rifle for around a place. too heavy to carry around much for a old guy like me though.

If a semi-auto is what you want, you can't beat the 10-22. Personally, I like 22 lever actions better and they're safer around kids. Less danger of being "ready to shoot" and not realize it. I've got .22 lever-actions in Henry and Marlin.

If I was going to shoot coyotes though, and wanted a Ruger semi-auto, I'd be using my Mini-14 in .223 caliber. I've got three and for short range shooting, they're great. NOT very accurate in long range - but what semi-auto is? If you want long-range super accuracy, get a bolt-action or single-shot.

i bought one close to 30 years ago with a busted stock for $25.00...another buck for a bottle of Elmers glue and its been killin coons,possums,hogs ever since...it also gets a lot of ruff use and when i think about it i hose the innards down with carb cleaner...that 10-22 has been the most dependable firearm i've owned...stick with the stock Ruger magazines...i aint found a good aftermarket mag yet.
also just got a deal on a Ruger Mini 14 ranch rifle in stainless .223 caliber...got a feeling its gonna be a keeper too.

Buy your Mini 14s while you can. The libs keep trying to relabel them as "assault weapons" and ban them from the general public.

Funny - since the Ruger 10-22 actually WAS used as a military assault weapon in Nicaragua. Seems most fighting was close-up jungle stuff, and it's lot easier to carry a lot of ammo in your pocket when it's only .22 rimfire.

Im very happy with my 10-22. easy to dissasemble to clean. cheap to shoot.

Ruger recently came out with a 25 round mag that is supposed to be pretty good.

I got mine from walmart for $209. I got a simmons 4-9x adjustable scope from walmart.com for $40. it makes it pretty accurate out to 50-75 yards. thats about the range of a 22LR.

you can use subsonic rounds, and low noise rounds, and be pretty quiet. you will probably have to cycle the action yourself, but they shoot.

try different brands of ammo, to find ammo you like. I like remington Goldens, (walmart for 19.95 for 550)

You might want to look this man's website up or call him and talk to him. www,woodchuckden.com
His name is Todd Kindler and he specializes in manufacturing small caliber ultra accurate rifles and amunition. He also publishes a magazine about the same topic. He is the most knowledgeable person that I know on the subject.

Ruger 10-22 great little semi-auto 22 cal. rifle. unlimited amount of accessories made by different manufactures. Butler Creek is one of the major ones. One can get larger capacity ammo clips, speed clip loaders, bull barrels, custom stocks many many other accessories.

As for what is involved in buying a 22 long rifle, you need to check with your state laws. The Federal Brady Bill law HAS expired, this was the law that required federal Gun Dealers to do the back ground check for all guns PURCHASES, and banning the manufacturing the large capacity ammo clips. Also the import of certain firearms.

I own 2 Ruger 10-22's one is factory original, the other I put on the Butler Creek bull barrel, and Butler Creek stock, it does not shoot any better just looks better. Actually a bull barrel is a waste of money on a rim fired 22 cal rifle, as there is not enough powder in a 22 rim fire to heat up the factory barrel during extended firing.. I know there are going to be individuals that will disagree with me, but all I can tell them is DO YOUR RESEARCH. I've been reloading my own ammo and varmint shooting since 1971. I will not give anyone advice on which caliber or rifle is the best. I recommend each person do their own research..

Enjoy which ever rifle you decide on..

Keith & Shawn(Gold Medal Winner)

Coon or coyote with a direct head shot, yes. Body shot, the animal will run away.
So if they are standing still at under 100 yards and you have a good steady shooting position.

A 10-22 is pretty light for coyotes. I would go with a 22-250. More money, but you can reload the brass if your set up for it.

I have a target barrel nice walnut stock 10-22 that will drive tacks and never has jammed. I have a 3x9 scope on it. it is a great little gun to have around for small varmits and such up close.

However, if you want the same results with more knock down power and range, go with a .17 caliber. It has virtually the same type velocity of a .22 magnum. It is a little more pricey to shoot that the .22 long rifle shells, but has a lot more range. I have seen my brother in law shoot coyotes at over 50 yards and them fall over. It puts a whooping on raccoons also. It tends to explode squirrels though. Not much left to eat.

http://www.ruger.com/products/rotaryMagazine7717/models.html

Have had a Ruger 10/22 since the seventies Only problem was when I picked it up insted of the Ruger 44 mag. carbine one morning when going deer hunting. The old 44 mag. was just like the 10/22 except for the weight. Same length and look the same.

It seems like you want a rifle to play with and to shoot a coon or coyote now and then. A 22 rimfire can be shot for about 4 cents a pop. A centerfire 22 will cost about 60 cents a pop so, you aren't likely to do much tin can destruction with it.
I have a 10-22 Ruger that has had many thousands of rounds through it in the last 30 years and is still going strong. Most rifles are capable of better accuracy than the person pulling the trigger is. Buy the type rifle that makes you happy, you are the one using it. Joe

A 10-22 and a cheap deer scope (Bushnell) are a deadly combination. My 10-22 likes CCI Mini-mags. Fed a proper diet, 100 yard 2 inch groups are not uncommon. No modifications were necessary just sight in the scope and go.

Aaron

10-22 is one of the best little rifles made. ton of aftermarket accessories, reliable. I've had one for 20 years.

Boy, johndeerefan, that is way more than I gave for my Remington Mod.700 22-250 SFBB with synthetic stock and Magna-porta. I've never liked the Ruger mod 77 anyway.

I"ve got that rifle in .22LR and in .22 Hornet. I use the Hornet for coyotes unless my .22-250 or .243 are handy.

There are plenty of good used 22 rifles around.A Stevens 87 or Savage 6 will put the new plastic wonders to shame.My favorite 22 is a Sears single shot made by Marlin.

I have a Ruger 10-22 and a 77-22 both are good rifles but the 77-22 will out shoot the 10-22. The 77-22 shoot a tighter group than 10-22.

The brother in law has the Savage .17 caliber. Cheaper made gun, but still shoots very good. It is not nearly as pricey as the Remington or Ruger.

Id go with the ruger 10-22, most reliable 22 on the market, and cabelas has them on sale at the moment for 150.00. Bob

(quoted from post at 16:17:42 11/17/11) Id go with the ruger 10-22, most reliable 22 on the market, and cabelas has them on sale at the moment for 150.00. Bob

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Most reliable auto, yes. Most reliable .22? I would have a hard time with that. Good gun, yes, but the one I used to own did still jam occasionally, hence why I am back to 1 lever .22 and one bolt .22 .

The only thing I dont like about a 10-22 is reloading the clips sore on the fingers and thumbs. But its like the small block chevy of guns so much after market. You can turn a 10-22 into a tack driver. Little light on power for coyote's without doing head shots.

I've owned three. The first one I bought used and had for 10 years. It was great when I bought it but when the boys got a little older we started putting a LOT of rounds through it. After several bricks it started to have failure to feed and failure to fire issue. Essentually it needed the springs replaced and possibly a new firing pin.

Instead I bought another one - Wal-Mart special that I haven't seen anywhere since. Longer stainless steel floated barrel (similar to the current "SPORTER" model they now carry) and a really nice stock. I did put a scope on it but the kids still wanted to shoot one that worked. Bought a plain jane with wood stock for them and sold my old one.

The Marlins are more accurate but the Ruger is much more popular.

Check out a CZ-USA model 452ZKM. Not made in the Us and is expensinve but it is also a very reliable tack driver even out to 150 yards. My second choice would be a savage bolt action.

Personaly, i would use something heavier like a 223 or 22-250 for yotes

Nothing wrong with a 10-22 on the other hand there are other good ones out there too if you find a deal. I like Marlin 22's real well. The Marlins are probably a little cheaper than the Ruger and I think they have a reputation for being more accurate (tighter groups). But you really cant go wrong with either one, whatever suits your fancy.

I had a 10/22 once. It was one of the least accurate semi-auto's I had. I got rid of it and bought a bolt action CZ. In my opinion a 22 is too small for a coyote.

thats because the Mini 14 looks so nasty it makes them liberals pi$$ themselves just looking at em lol

i been wanting one for years and one finally showed up at a price i couldnt say no to...its in the war chest with all the rest.

Think Marlin golden 39A, older gun. Lever like BB gun(advantages and disadvantages) Semi auto's need too much cleaning and do jam. All my guns are older. Dave

Think Marlin golden 39A, older gun. Lever like BB gun(advantages and disadvantages) Semi auto's need too much cleaning and do jam. All my guns are older. Dave

(quoted from post at 17:59:20 11/17/11) Check out a CZ-USA model 452ZKM. Not made in the Us and is expensinve but it is also a very reliable tack driver even out to 150 yards. My second choice would be a savage bolt action.

Personaly, i would use something heavier like a 223 or 22-250 for yotes

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That CZ is a tack driver. I shoot gophers out to about 150 yards with mine! Only draw back is the price. Lot of folks don't want to pay that much for a 22.

The 10 22 is a good gun and fairly accurate despite what some would think. One son and 2 SIL's have em and we have shot 1-1 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards from a bench. I can get less that 1 inch groupes with the CZ.

Bang for the buck I don't think you can go wrong with the 10 22.

As far as critters....anything bigger than a coon I'd be using a larger round. Too much chance of just wounding em. I'm not a big fan of the 223/556 but for yotes it's a good round. I have a mini 14 in 6.8 Rem SPC. I like it and it shoots well. With the faster 223/556 it should be just a tad more accurate and has plenty of power for yotes, chucks ECT.

Rick

It seems this is a very subjective subject. I'm fond of the Browning Semi-Auto 22 take down (the Belgium version). A used one will run you around $600. On several of the gun forums the Marlin 795 is highly recommended as an affordable 22, $150 at Bass Pro Shop. If you want a Ruger 10/22 'tack driver' you'll have to buy the bull barrel model.

I like the winchester leaver action 22mag. I"v had it 25 years shoots great.

(quoted from post at 13:09:21 11/17/11)I got mine from walmart for $209. I got a simmons 4-9x adjustable scope from walmart.com for $40. it makes it pretty accurate out to 50-75 yards. thats about the range of a 22LR.

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.22s can be accurate well past 50-75 yards. Just google "mini palma". It used to be a NRA sanctioned event but was dropped some years back (forget exactally when). Its still shot in alot of places but since the NRA dropped it, gun clubs change the rules to fit what the club can do. You shoot .22 at ranges up to 200 yards. Its great practice for shooting highpower or palma matches for far less money.

Shooting a .22 at 200 yards is similar to shooting a .308 at 1,000 yards. The trajectory of the bullets from point A to full range of point B is similar and the affects of the wind on the bullets is similar. Its alot of fun and very challenging, weeds out the bar stool marksmen pretty quick too.

(quoted from post at 13:47:05 11/17/11)I own 2 Ruger 10-22's one is factory original, the other I put on the Butler Creek bull barrel, and Butler Creek stock, it does not shoot any better just looks better. Actually a bull barrel is a waste of money on a rim fired 22 cal rifle, as there is not enough powder in a 22 rim fire to heat up the factory barrel during extended firing.. I know there are going to be individuals that will disagree with me, but all I can tell them is DO YOUR RESEARCH. I've been reloading my own ammo and varmint shooting since 1971. I will not give anyone advice on which caliber or rifle is the best. I recommend each person do their own research..

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You have to remember, a Butler Creek barrel is the Geo Metro of the after market barrels. You dont buy a Metro expecting to get a Cadillac and you dont buy a Butler Creek expecting Shilen or lilja. Butler Creek may have been one of the first after market barrel companies for the 10/22 but they are far from what should be considered mininum quality. I can make a factory 10/22 shoot better than somebody that puts on a Butler Creek barrel. Butler Creek barrels are ment for Joe 6-pack to buy at the Cabelas on the way home from the liquor store so he can build his own "new fangled tack driver" that he read about in some gun rag. They sold a ton of them but that just shows how low cost barrel combined with a gun platform that is easy to swap parts can make a perfect storm that we seen with the 10/22.

Bull barrels are not ment to soak up heat during extended shooting. Target shooting by nature does not require fast or extended shooting. Bull barrels [b:2c2be0b319][i:2c2be0b319]DO [/i:2c2be0b319][/b:2c2be0b319]tend to keep barrel temps closer from first shot to the last shot in a string but the difference compaired to a regular barrel is minimal. The overall effects of that temp change (either bull or regular barrel) is minimal to non-existant. Really, the only time barrel temps will cause you any problems is if you have a bedding issue. I have done quite a bit of testing of barrel temps on accuracy back when those lazer pointed IR thermometer were $500 (now you can buy just as accurate one from Harbor Freight for 30 bucks) and even on a standard barrel .308, temps were a non issue. Even today, I own my own IR therometer and I dont keep it in my range bag.

It should be noted, as I mentioned above, barrel temps are generally a non issue [b:2c2be0b319][i:2c2be0b319]unless[/i:2c2be0b319][/b:2c2be0b319] you have bedding issues. Since we are talking about the 10/22 here, it should be noted that the 10/22 does frequently have some issues (from the factory) with bedding. Rarely will it become an issue though. Most shooters are incappable of shooting the gun to its limits where they would notice. Most gun owners dont even know they have a thermal related bedding problem. All most owners care about is that the gun has "minute of squirrel" accuracy and if they can hit a squirrel, they proclaim they have the most accurate gun in the world.



IH806, the Ruger 10/22 is a great gun. It has some issues but most people wont have a problem with them. If you do, the fixes can be quite cheap and easy to do and the internet is a wealth of information. I was doing work on 10/22s before the internet so it was more trial and error but now days, you can easily just follow others footsteps. Rimfirecentral.com is considered the bible for 10/22 mods and accuracy tips.

If you want a 10/22 for racoons, its a great gun.

If you want it for coyotes, its a little light, maybe even alot light of a gun. A .22 will gut shoot them quite well though so if your only care is you want the coyote gone because he is eating your chickens, a .22 will work no matter if its a 10/22 or something else. Even lung shots are usually fatal, its just they dont drop right where they stand so most people say a .22 wont work but I can assure you it will. A .22 [b:2c2be0b319][i:2c2be0b319]wont[/i:2c2be0b319][/b:2c2be0b319] work if you are shooting coyotes if you want the hide or if you are concerned with an ethical kill because a .22 wont do it that well but it will kill them.

If you want a 10/22 for driving tacks.... they rarely do that from the factory. You can get there but you cant just buy it from Ruger that way. You can do alot of mods cheap and easy though and when you finish that, decide if you want to go for more accuracy and how much you want to spend. It can get expensive fast and in the end, you might end up with something no more accurate than you could have bought by picking a different maker and action type, only difference is, you will have a very accurate semi auto and the others are factory bolt actions. Thats just the nature of the beast with semi auto .22s, you spend lots of money and time just to get where you would be by spending $200 on a bolt action.