Dam# theives

Working around house today to get honey do list caught up before opening day of deer season. Went to get charged up battery to move WD and some other rigs. 3 batteries gone, so now go looking and find other small things i.e. cheater pipe, pipe wrenches and steel missing. Now have to inventory everthing.

Thinking of security camera to catch them and take next steps. For their sake better not show up while I am around - 3 S's.

Anyone got any experience or recommendations for camera setup?

Only covers a small area but a motion sensing game camera works quite well, and they are pretty cheap and easy to come by.

Shoulds like a c ouple shots of rock salt should help them think a LITTLE BETTER. I hate theifs & lyers can t believe them for anything.
Good old Missouri remendy . Belive me it will take quite a while for the salt to leave , by that time their a little smarter.

Mount the camera up, facing down, or they'll steal it too. Tell no one that you have a camera set.

(quoted from post at 18:59:24 11/03/11) Mount the camera up, facing down, or they'll steal it too. Tell no one that you have a camera set.

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... or, spread the word that you DO have cameras set up (when you actually don't) and the word will spread quickly. The theives might think twice before stealing any more stuff.

Thanks!

What is the 69 GMC? I have a 49 GMC 1/2 ton reworking it now to haul small tractors to tractor shows.

Call the cops and let them know that you aren't gonna let up until they get involved. Their calls are recorded. Offer to handle it yourself if they seem reluctant. Works for me every time. Busted a drug (meth) ring and a theft ring so far. Prisom time for both. Also stopped a group of nightriders. They always act like there isn't much they can do, but when you offer to handle it yourself, they get serious and spring into action. It helps to act a little deranged, which comes quite natural with me. . .

You can't beat a good picture of the thief caught in the act.

Good luck

heres a dumb idea maybe...that just might work. Get some type of device that has GPS. Maybe ask your vet for one of those chips they put in animals. Put it inside something that they would seal in a heart beat, a box of tools, inside a cordless impact...i don't know, just might work???

Locks only keep honest folk out of places around here. I hate thieves.

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What is the 69 GMC? I have a 49 GMC 1/2 ton reworking it now to haul small tractors to tractor shows.

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It`s a half ton 2wd with a 283. Used to be my dads, he drove it when I was little until the motor wore out, then he helped me rebuild it when I was 14. We figure between the two of us and 4 engines, we have at least 500,000 miles on it.

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(quoted from post at 18:59:24 11/03/11) Mount the camera up, facing down, or they'll steal it too. Tell no one that you have a camera set.

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... or, spread the word that you DO have cameras set up (when you actually don't) and the word will spread quickly. The theives might think twice before stealing any more stuff.

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had someone opening my pastures at the gates and where there was no gate, just pulling the bottom two bands up so the horses would duck under.
Told an old lady that is pretty much the town busy body about that I had ordered several cameras to put up. Few days later, I took off toward the pastures with box and a ladder strapped to the quad. Spent a little time on the ladder here and there and went back thru town with the box open and some packing stuff hanging out and made sure she saw me then took the box back to the recycle bin where I found it. No more fence problems..........

Very Nice. I have a 1970 Chevy LWB sitting in the yard. Youngest son has lost interest so I am going to sell it to fund my 49 efforts.

Hey Shep -

I've put in probably 20-30 camera's worth of security for dorms, etc, at the university where I work including 4-5 digital video recorders (DVRs) for storage & playback.

We've used SuperCircuits for most of our gear. They have anything you could want in the way of surveillance equipment.

They've been great to work with.


http://www.supercircuits.com/business-security-cctv-products


Howard
SuperCircuits Products

I was thinking about putting up a couple of cameras myself. I see on the web site systems are for around 1,000 dollars. Does the cameras have good pictures at night? My son bought a game camera and the night picture is pretty bad, you would have a hard time making out who was in the picture.

I tried putting up cameras one time and they stole them too. I don't think there is any solution, just try to learn not to get too upset.

We used to add pig hair to our rock salt loads. caused a delayed infection.

The big online hunting supply shops sell all sorts of non-lethal ammo for your trusty 12ga. Rubber slugs... Rubber buckshot...

Be careful dealing with the law: Around here, if you offer to deal with it yourself, YOU end up in handcuffs and the criminals walk free.

If you DO deal with it yourself, YOU go to jail for a long long time, the criminals walk free, AND the judge gives them EVERY PENNY you have and will ever earn for the rest of your life in the civil suit.

I'm always amused by those who advocate violence..........while setting safely behind their computer screen; they never offer any details about all the people they've shot and how the victims are buried in the back 40.

(quoted from post at 09:29:20 11/04/11) I'm always amused by those who advocate violence..........while setting safely behind their computer screen; they never offer any details about all the people they've shot and how the victims are buried in the back 40.

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SSSHHHHhhhhhh! You're gonna get the Law on us! Gotta keep that on the down-low...
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Well I put up a camera system with a hard drive inside my farm shop. I only have two cameras, but it will handle 4. Night vision, motion sensitive, color cameras. System cost about $600 and I installed it myself

I made damned sure that everyone locally knew I had put up the cameras. Haven't had a problem since. I also up up signs stating the area was under video surveillance.

Gene

Harbor Freight: 4 color cameras, power supply, cables, 500gig hard drive, night vision, motion sensors/continuous recording, internet capable, no monitor--around $250.
Mount cameras so that they can see each other to prevent tampering. Use in conjunction with motion sensor lights for enhanced night vision. As this is a 12vdc system it can be used in most vehicles also. Have used it for a couple years with only minor glitches. IMO not the ultimate system, but very good for the money.

If you have cops like we do all you'll have is a film of the thieves taking your stuff. There's nothing in it for the cops to track down a thief - even if you have the license plate and DL of the thief they won't do anything in my area.

About all they'll do is warn you that taking action on your own will land you in jail.

Wouldn't that be pretty stupid?

I"ve been to grand jury already on one murder case years back. Questioned on couple other bodies found, questioned on a "seems to have disappearred". Have a couple old written motions for dismissal of little things based on officer false statements/reports--and proved the false statements enough for judge to dismiss with prejudice. Been awhile since much of anything "illegal"-- But have been advised that statute of limitations is a long time for some things police have questioned me about at times regarding various people with 1% patch"s. This is mellow out forum for me. RN

(quoted from post at 01:32:51 11/04/11) I was thinking about putting up a couple of cameras myself. I see on the web site systems are for around 1,000 dollars. Does the cameras have good pictures at night? My son bought a game camera and the night picture is pretty bad, you would have a hard time making out who was in the picture.

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Hey Job -

The cameras we got were just the "kit" included ones, but they do a very serviceable job.

But you can also mix & match any other cameras including infra-red models that film in total darkness, if you wanted... Like these:


http://www.supercircuits.com/Security-Cameras/Infrared-Security-Cameras/

So you can put as high a quality camera as you want in whichever location - and then record the higher quality video...


Howard

Like GeneMO I put in a similar security system,
it seemed to cut theft to zero. Got to the point where I never viewed the recorder for anybody in the yard. A couple days ago when to start some tractors I rarely use. Eight less then year old batteries were gone(some Deka"s, John Deere"s, and Exide). Recorder is one terabyte, but on viewing it already was recording over itself. Going to check more often. Batteries must be a hot item with lead up.

There are a lot of different ways of checking them. There are cameras with a network connection built-in so you can access them directly by IP address.

http://www.supercircuits.com/search?keywords=ip+camera&sort_by_field=Price%3aASC



There are also pure wireless cameras that only need a power cable.

http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/D-Link-DCS-930L-mydlink-enabled-Wireless-N-Home-Network-Camera-network-ca/2275188.aspx

(cut & paste either of those links into the address bar on your browser)

What type of interface were you looking for???


Howard

(quoted from post at 10:29:20 11/04/11) I'm always amused by those who advocate violence..........while setting safely behind their computer screen; they never offer any details about all the people they've shot and how the victims are buried in the back 40.

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The bodies are in the basement not the back forty. Was afraid of plowing them up accidentally some fall... :wink:

Sounds like they are just stealing anything they can sell for scrap for a quick buck. Try one or more of these proven methods.

Buy an old looking electric fence energizer and take it apart. Direct wire it, bypassing all the internal circuitry. VERY IMPORTANT: Leave no prints inside! Make some rubber grommets from an old tire or something, and install them so your locking chain is insulated from ground. Hook afore mentioned electric fence unit to chain on inside of door/gate/whatever they absolutely have to touch to get at what they want to steal. Turn unit on and await the fireworks. At the very least, you may get some free bolt cutters out of the deal. If the cops show up one day asking questions, SWEAR you never opened up the energizer's case, just bought it at a yard sale and hooked it up. Must have been done by a previous owner...

Get TWO big dogs. Only feed them once every three days, or else just a little every day, but be sure to leave them hungry all the time. Teach them you are the boss. Then start feeding them gunpowder every few days. Just a little sprinkled over their food like salt or pepper. Keep them chained/fenced up out where the thefts are occurring, and be sure to include ONE "Beware of Dog" sign. The reason for getting two dogs and not just one is that someone can always figure out a way to get past or else trick one dog into letting them past, but with two, the odds are decidedly against it being successful.

Load up ole Betsy with #9 bird-shot or roll your own with the rock-salt mentioned earlier, (I REALLY like the idea of adding the pig hair.) Then, either spend a few nights out at the scene after carefully hiding your vehicle to make it look like you are not home, or get some of those motion sensor switches that turn on lights when someone trips them, and put the light in your house, or else use an alarm instead, (like a radio turned up load enough to hear it over anything else in the house or to wake you up). Might even put out something so tempting they will feel like they just have to try and steel it by the third night, especially if you're doing the camping/stake-out thing. When the home made "alarm" trips or they wake you up, return the favor in their backsides, but be sure that at least one of them "gets away". Remember, shot from shotguns is not traceable to a specific gun like bullets are, and as long as there are no empty hulls lying around, "Why, officer, I don't know what happened, I just heard the ruckus and called you guys..." but disassemble your "alarm" or break camp and clean the gun first. It isn't much of a stretch to make the cops believe that the one who "got away" must have gotten angry with the rest and did the deed himself. This is even more believable if you have an old shotgun you don't mind "throwing away" at the scene... just be CERTAIN it has been fired recently and none of your fingerprints are on it.

Then again, if you have enough land, live far enough away from the neighbors and can stomach it ... :twisted:

howard could you email me,help on system?

I'd go with a game camera or 2. Also, maybe put up a couple of fake cameras as well. I've got a lot of steel in the garage that I collect to use in projects that is visible from the street. Over the weekend, wife was working in the side yard with the garage door open. She saw a guy in a van stop next to the neighbor's house and kept looking towards our garage. I told her next time, just walk up to the van and get the license #. If it was me, I would have grabbed the camera and taken a picture. Like you, I hate thieves.