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Had to drive the tractor and wagon to the BB store about 15 miles away this afternoon.......

Unbelieveable how folks drive... I had lights, signals, Rotating amber light, and warning triangle on the back of the wagon.Gave up counting how many cars passed then cut back in so close in front of me to miss oncoming traffic. Motorbikes passing me in my lane on both sides, cars crowding me so they could pass between me and oncoming traffic...
Drove right on the centerline on the way home and had a little more peace except for motorbikes passing on the right.........

Done now
 
Thinkin of making a tater gun (ooops!! wrong word ) "Launcher" for use over here just lob one far enough ahead to have idiots drive in to.
 
Hello dave2,
I see you are a quick study. We had VW's cutiing in our line of vehicles when the company went out on manuvers. I remember one instance that made the guy that cut in sorry.
2 M60 tanks squized him in, so he could not get out. AND THEN!!!!!!!!!! the from M60 went to full throttle. If you ever been behind one of those, you can start laughing now.
Guido.
 
Hey Dave. at least you made it to and from town. What you described, is most common around here. Seems as though we are impeeding traffic and they want to be the first to the weck.What really pizzes me is the jerks who pass us when we are doing the speed limt,only to blow by us at warp speed, then cut back in,turn off 50 feet ahead of us while displaying the finger of their I.Q. Status.I guess life goes on that way . Keep working on your people skills. regards, LOU.
 

Yep, same kind of drivers here. They show large tractors a little more respect, especially if there is a loader bucket on the front.

KEH
 
I think we had M60's at Yakima Firing Center, in the desert of eastern Washington, when I was in the National Guard. Long time ago, memories getting a little fuzzy.

Had a particularly hot and dry summer, and order came from on high that tanks could only accelerate GRADUALLY, and then, only to half throttle- because when they slammed them into full throttle, the flames from the exhaust tended to set the sage brush behind on fire.

Bet the VW guy made a "Note to self" after that little experience.
 
Nope...no flames out of a M60 ...diesel. If you hit the throttle, the black smoke was just awesome....a sight to behold. I wouldn't want to be behind it.
Now, the M48...different story ...gas..hit the throttle and the flame was about 15' long and also awesome....
 
Ugh, so many close calls when driving tractors on the road... I was driving a JD 4430 one a highway at like 9AM one day and had the left turn signal on, waiting for oncoming traffic to clear. Low and behold, traffic clears, I throttle up and am in mid-turn... And I notice that the three cars from behind decided to try and pass me! I got it stopped before I batted them off the road, luckily, but boy was I ------. :x

When driving a JD 8400 one day with the axle that sticks out for the duals... I just moved over into the center of the unmarked country road when I was tired of people trying to squeeze me into taking out mail boxes or pass on blind corners and hills... People seem to back off when you've got three feet of iron rod sticking out in their lane...
 
(quoted from post at 16:40:01 10/24/11) Ugh, so many close calls when driving tractors on the road... I was driving a JD 4430 one a highway at like 9AM one day and had the left turn signal on, waiting for oncoming traffic to clear. Low and behold, traffic clears, I throttle up and am in mid-turn... And I notice that the three cars from behind decided to try and pass me! I got it stopped before I batted them off the road, luckily, but boy was I ------. :x

When driving a JD 8400 one day with the axle that sticks out for the duals... I just moved over into the center of the unmarked country road when I was tired of people trying to squeeze me into taking out mail boxes or pass on blind corners and hills... People seem to back off when you've got three feet of iron rod sticking out in their lane...
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I don't even worry about other drivers anymore. I have a spotless driving record, have safety inspection, license plates, and insurance on our vehicles (tractor included) and pay the roadtak for the tractor. I just make sure I am right and let the others make their own bed.... Only reason I was a stressing today was I had the new tractor out for the first time and had a borrowed wagon that was a little wider than I'm used to.
 
Dave, please keep in mind you live in Germany and you do have the best drivers in the world. You have been gone to long, you would not believe the kamakzzi drivers we have here. Compare German road kill numbers to the US
 
(quoted from post at 19:18:46 10/24/11) Dave, please keep in mind you live in Germany and you do have the best drivers in the world. You have been gone to long, you would not believe the kamakzzi drivers we have here. Compare German road kill numbers to the US
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I don't care if I live in utopia or gotham city.....drivers are still idiots when they split lanes, crowd other vehicles, etc.......
 
Maybe the drivers here in NZ are not so bad, but we have a road not far from here that they made that "can not be shared", so if you drive a tractor on it, everything behind you can only go as fast as the tractor in front! :) TSG.
 
Now that you mention it, M48 rings a bell. They were gas rigs, from the 50's. Real thirsty, as I recall.
 
I think tractors have no place on the highway. They are too slow and create a road hazard. I was almost killed one time because of a tractor on the highway. I was driving in Kentucky where there was a stretch of one hill after another and I came over one hill and there was a tractor poking along at 15 mph. I came up on him so fast there was not time to stop so I was forced to pass him. As soon as I got in the other lane a Greyhound Buss came over the hill head-on at me and I barely made it back in my own lane. Had there been traffic at time I came up on him I would have had not choice but to rear end the tractor. There was no shoulder.
 
(quoted from post at 04:04:20 10/25/11) I think tractors have no place on the highway. They are too slow and create a road hazard. I was almost killed one time because of a tractor on the highway. I was driving in Kentucky where there was a stretch of one hill after another and I came over one hill and there was a tractor poking along at 15 mph. I came up on him so fast there was not time to stop so I was forced to pass him. As soon as I got in the other lane a Greyhound Buss came over the hill head-on at me and I barely made it back in my own lane. Had there been traffic at time I came up on him I would have had not choice but to rear end the tractor. There was no shoulder.
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The speed limit on a road is the maximum speed that you should travel in perfect driving conditions. When there is a chance of hazards, especially in a rural area during harvest or planting seasons, why not slow down a little on limited visibility roads?
 
Stephen,how would you propose that tractors get from farm to farm ? airlift them so they are not in your way? bill
 
Dave, are the roads real narrow over there? I am pretty lucky where I am, lots of wide roads for the most part. I find it is much safer to take up part of the road or at least a full lane to prevent passing in dangerous areas. I find when turning left even though I will have turning signals on that drivers don't realize you are turning so I have to really make sure traffic clears for left turns, plus there are so many lights blinking on my tractors not sure if they see the left signal for sure.
 
How is Germany for that sort of thing? I friend of mine wants to move there. He actually proposed marriage at castle Neuschwanstein. So, he is familiar. by the way, she said yes. Those dang lovebirds!

I am sure it is like America for tractor travel. I have a 13 foot header on my combine. I can go around the local with no problems, because they all know I am crazy, but if I get outside local, I don't know what to expect. Had a woman beeping and swearing at me as she passed. She cut off 3 on-coming cars. I'm glad she is not dead, but a part of me wanted to see that wreck! LOL

sometimes people just don't know. In the 1950's, if a farm vehicle was on teh road, it was just another day. in 2011, if a farm vehicle is on the road, it almost makes the local news. In 20 years, will it make national news? Will we be forbidden from tramming?


Progress is wonderful, but some people forget where they came from, and if the majority rules, we have a bleak future to look forward to, as farmers, because the majority is not. In fact, the majority seems to be oblivious! Some countries demand[with jail sentence] that you serve 2 years in the military. I wish most countries did the same with farm work. maybe poeple would remember where they came from!

My best wishes. I hope you have a better day and if I am ever in Germany visiting my friend, I hope I can visit.
 
If you don't have a safe sight distance then you are supposed to slow down. The bus driver and tractor driver where probably thinking the same thing as you, about crazy drivers. Could have as easily been a broken down school bus.
 
(quoted from post at 04:30:34 10/25/11) How is Germany for that sort of thing? I friend of mine wants to move there. He actually proposed marriage at castle Neuschwanstein. So, he is familiar. by the way, she said yes. Those dang lovebirds!

I am sure it is like America for tractor travel. I have a 13 foot header on my combine. I can go around the local with no problems, because they all know I am crazy, but if I get outside local, I don't know what to expect. Had a woman beeping and swearing at me as she passed. She cut off 3 on-coming cars. I'm glad she is not dead, but a part of me wanted to see that wreck! LOL

sometimes people just don't know. In the 1950's, if a farm vehicle was on teh road, it was just another day. in 2011, if a farm vehicle is on the road, it almost makes the local news. In 20 years, will it make national news? Will we be forbidden from tramming?


Progress is wonderful, but some people forget where they came from, and if the majority rules, we have a bleak future to look forward to, as farmers, because the majority is not. In fact, the majority seems to be oblivious! Some countries demand[with jail sentence] that you serve 2 years in the military. I wish most countries did the same with farm work. maybe poeple would remember where they came from!

My best wishes. I hope you have a better day and if I am ever in Germany visiting my friend, I hope I can visit.
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tractors, combines, etc are inspected, insured, and licensed and have as much right on the road as a mercedes.. Idiots are just that... Where's your friend planning on coming to?

Hayray,
roads are just fine...even some of the access roads are wide enough for a tractor and car to pass.......
 
A tractor should be loaded on a trailer and trucked from farm to farm. Its the same problem they have in areas of the country where there are Amish. Slow vehicles need a separate road.
 
there are all roads,high speed roads stay on the interstates then. and you were passing in hilling roads and not your fault sounds like typical excuse to me. gonna complain about school buses to then need load them on trucks too. the pedal in the middle is there for reason. speed may been posted say fifty five but i bet anything yours probably said 65.neighbors has 14 tractors when can I get YOU to move them to the fields for him. just let off some air lost buddy last summmer cause TRACTOR should not of been on county blacktop Kids parents said. She was 16 cell phone stuck to her ear,him dead on impact 50 ft or less from his home. but like i stated earlier if you don't like anything to be in your way than why were you on the slow roads,you have the interstate. i just came thru kentucky and there is interstate. P.S If you are on another hill road then please don't hit me cause i be the one putting mail in your box,stopped!!!!!
 
I understand what you are saying, but you are wrong. If you rearend a vehicle that is operating legally you will almost always be found to be at fault. What if instead of a tractor it was a stopped school bus, or a rural mail carrier, or a garbage truck, or even just a normal car that is waiting on traffic to clear so that it can make a left turn? You were going too fast for conditions.

Did you know that you can get a speeding ticket when you are driving under the posted speed limit? You get it when you are driving too fast for conditions, ie fog, rain, etc.

slim
 
What about semis, they are legal as well, but don't always move the fastest, especially in the hills. Everything seems to be done fast, but I have now slowed down in my life and I now see what I have missed.
 
You for sure are at fault, almost causing a head on collision with a bus full of people. As mentioned in a following post, if you rear end some one you are always at fault. That is very dangerous to drive like that. Not trying to make you feel bad I just sincerely hope you do not hurt someone with that driving attitude, please be safe.
 
At the time I was driving a rural paper route. This was not an unfamiliar stretch of highway to me. This stretch of highway was all wooded with no side roads or driveways on either side. In fact the road dropped off 15 to 20 feet on each side. There was no reason to think anyone might be stopped on the road. It was a two lane blacktop and I believe at the time, 1973 the speed limit was 65 there. I was driving 60 to 65. Had I been driving 40 there I would creating a road hazzard myself.

I do not farm but I live in the country and do some dirt work for someone that lives near me. I could drive there on my tractor, but it would involve me driving on the highway about 200 yards. I won"t do it. I load the tractor on a trailer and transport it there every time.
 
I can see you aint wrapped too tight.My place has a mile of road frontage.I have 3 brooks crossing the land so I have to use the highway.I have a hay field at the half way mark.I bring out firewood and logs for my sawmill at the same point.I am on the highway a few hours a year with my tractor.Who gave you exclusive rights to the road.I am sharp enough to know that farmers have to use the highways to produce food for the loony toons like you.And now they produce 10% of your motor fuel so you can run 65 on hilly roads with limited vision.We have an Amish settlement here and I am careful when their buggies and horses are on the road.They pay high taxes on their farms and much of that money pays for local roads.We have a 3 foot shoulder on the state roads that leaves room to pass and I have had people with wide loads pull over and allow traffic to pass.School buses pull over often to allow traffic to pass.You need to get rid of your King of the road additude.
 
They have minumum speeds on most of our interstate highways. It's time they did that on all highways. Perhaps when more people die from hitting tractors they will. I can see it will take a lot more than this forum for you people change your ways.
 
(quoted from post at 06:37:55 10/25/11) It was a state highway and I was driving on a clear day at the posted speed limit. I was not the one at fault.
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Yes you were. You were driving too fast for the conditions, regardless of what the speed limit said.

You could not see what was over the next hill. That tractor could just as easily been a disabled car, or a busload of school children and nuns, or a fresh wreck sitting in the middle of the road with no way around.

Now what? You going to claim that no vehicles other than yours should be allowed on the road?
 
(quoted from post at 05:28:47 10/26/11) They have minumum speeds on most of our interstate highways. It's time they did that on all highways. Perhaps when more people die from hitting tractors they will. I can see it will take a lot more than this forum for you people change your ways.
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hopefully it gets them before they reproduce........... maybe you should just move back to town where you belong??????
 
(quoted from post at 13:28:47 10/26/11) They have minumum speeds on most of our interstate highways. It's time they did that on all highways. Perhaps when more people die from hitting tractors they will. I can see it will take a lot more than this forum for you people change your ways.
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Well try driving the speed limit on the freeways of Chicago or Atlanta or any other large city during rush hour and tell us how well that works for you.

I guess the poor sap you rear end because he has stopped for backed up traffic will be at fault because you are “after all travelling the posted speed limit”.

Wow man, I recommend you take your Meds. and then pull you head out of where ever it is, and take a look around in the real world the rest of us have to live in.
 
Yes, its' called lobby for a new law. Until then realize you are breaking the law when driving unsafe for conditions and us tractor drivers are operating well within it. I loath drivers like you because more then anything I do not want to see some one get hurt. I operate continuously on the road with my large equipment and fortuneatley most drivers are not like you.
 
This will be my final post in this matter. First of all, I was driving textbook correct, legal or otherwise. The guy on the tractor driving 15 on a highway with a posted speed limit of 65 was in the wrong. I’m really surprised the thread hasn’t been pulled. It has really gotten out of hand. Some have acted like children. You know anyone that has followed the story realizes you are trying to make me out to be the villain because the idea may impact your operations with legislation eventually, because I’m not alone. In reality if this topic isn’t discussed it may come to that. Moving agriculture equipment on our nations highways is inherently dangerous. All that it would take is someone important to hit a tractor and it would be all over the news. The next step would be laws restricting it. If this equipment is going to be on the highway there needs to be some system developed to inform the public. You can’t expect someone that is not a farmer to know when harvest season is nor when you are moving equipment from one farm to another. When the county is mowing the highway near where I live, they put up a sign warning people to watch for mowers. Perhaps if someone was moving 14 tractors from one farm to another they could just put up a sign warning the public that equipment is on the highway. I still believe if a person is moving one tractor it should be trucked. Back to my initial story, if there were a sign warning about equipment on the highway I would definitely not have come over that hill at 65 mph. As I stated in my initial story I had a fraction of a second to decide to run off the road and hit a tree, hit the tractor or pass him. Obviously I didn’t like being put in that position because he couldn’t take the time to put the tractor on a trailer and move it. Over my lifetime I’ve been held up many times by tractors on the highways. It’s only a minor inconvenience and I don’t mind as long as I know their there.
 
They have to put up warning signs when mowing because stupid drivers run into the mowers.I live on a state highway that is posted 55 for most of it.Intersections are posted 35 to 40.Theres a side road thats blind coming west because of a small hill.If you ignore the 35 mph sign and the side road sign you may pop over the hill a hit a horse trailer coming out of the side road.Come too fast over a hill a half mile from me and you may hit a tractor, baler and loaded hay wagon crossing the road.Or better yet a loaded tractor trailer slowly pulling out of the field.We all have to stop at times when turning left into our drive way.This leaves us sitting ducks for crazy drivers who ignore the 40 mph signs ,intersection sign and blinking yellow light.Then there are the fools who dont adjust their speed to road conditions.We have oil and propane trucks backing into driveways,ups trucks and the mail carrier that backs in to the drive way when some thing is too large for the box.The roads are public and are paid for by every one who uses them.I rarely drive over 50 mph.My trucks shifts into overdrive at 45.Gas milage is good. go faster and see the gas gauge drop.Since most posters have diagreed with you. you must be wrong.Saw a 1927 Model T Ford going by while I was digging potatoes.He was going about 40 mph ,close to top speed for a T uphill.Again you aint King of the road and you dont have exclusive right to use it.
 
Well said Coupe, but that guy ain
t gonna change his mind till he kills some one. Good point about the roads are for everyone, cars never had exclusive rights to the roads.
 
(quoted from post at 18:30:20 10/26/11) This will be my final post in this matter. First of all, I was driving textbook correct, legal or otherwise. The guy on the tractor driving 15 on a highway with a posted speed limit of 65 was in the wrong. I’m really surprised the thread hasn’t been pulled. It has really gotten out of hand. Some have acted like children. You know anyone that has followed the story realizes you are trying to make me out to be the villain because the idea may impact your operations with legislation eventually, because I’m not alone. In reality if this topic isn’t discussed it may come to that. Moving agriculture equipment on our nations highways is inherently dangerous. All that it would take is someone important to hit a tractor and it would be all over the news. The next step would be laws restricting it. If this equipment is going to be on the highway there needs to be some system developed to inform the public. You can’t expect someone that is not a farmer to know when harvest season is nor when you are moving equipment from one farm to another. When the county is mowing the highway near where I live, they put up a sign warning people to watch for mowers. Perhaps if someone was moving 14 tractors from one farm to another they could just put up a sign warning the public that equipment is on the highway. I still believe if a person is moving one tractor it should be trucked. Back to my initial story, if there were a sign warning about equipment on the highway I would definitely not have come over that hill at 65 mph. As I stated in my initial story I had a fraction of a second to decide to run off the road and hit a tree, hit the tractor or pass him. Obviously I didn’t like being put in that position because he couldn’t take the time to put the tractor on a trailer and move it. Over my lifetime I’ve been held up many times by tractors on the highways. It’s only a minor inconvenience and I don’t mind as long as I know their there.
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Don't know where you live but where I am either town, county or state put out permantly installed warning signs depicting a tractor to alert drivers of possible danger. Your attitude is dead wrong it will be deadly to you or someone else!
 
"At the time I was driving a rural paper route."

OK, you just gave yourself away. You are a troll. Since you were driving a rural paper route, you had to stop to put the papers in the paper boxes by the road. You were driving slower at times than a tractor. You were more of a hazard than you say the tractor was.

But if you are truly not a troll and are really serious with your post, then you are an idiot.

slim
 
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