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Casey in Ky

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So I"ve got a prefab fireplace in my basement. It"s small, real small. About 19.5 inches tall, 18 inches deep, and 23 inches at the back. We"ve had fires in before during power outages and such, but it"s just not very efficient. The farm has lots of good standing hickory, just the right size, so I"m looking at a wood burning insert. I"ve only found about 3 that will fit so far. A Buck model 18, a Jotul Winterpot C 350, and a Sierra Cricket 5300. The first 2 both have blowers which I want, but the other is a little cheaper. Any suggestions? Is there any need to do the liner and new stove pipe thru out the chimeny? I had one Jotul dealer tell me yes, and another say just to set the insert in and fire it up. The current pipe is good and was cleaned a couple of years ago. The prefab unit has a pretty good draw to it. Just want to make sure I do it right. Thanks.

Casey
 

Casey, Why not use a hearth stove that sets in front of the present "Fireplace" that way you could get a larger unit that would be a lot warmer! "BUT" be sure your chimney will handle it!...just my .02 cents worth......Jim in N M
 
I thought about getting a bigger free standing stove, but the wife says no. I've got a VERY active 2 year old in the house who she says she's not chasing after just to keep him away from a free standing stove. At least with the insert I put the foldable screen in front of and keep him from running into it. This insert is just for emergency and supplemental heat. Just installed a new 3 ton heat pump this summer.
 
I have an insert in my masonry fireplace. Have a 6 ft. stainless pipe run onto the chimney, never had any problems. Get one with the blower, I heat a 2000 sq ft house, without much trouble. If it is in your basement, you may be able to heat your next level, but it may be 95 degrees in your basement!
 
Size of stovepipe needs to be matched to the size of the stove in order for it to draw properly. You're talking about little stoves, here, so your existing flue may be too big. Ask each stove seller what the recommended size of stovepipe is, and compare it to your present flue. I'd think if you have a flue liner that's 6" by 6", or smaller, it should be fine.

Silly question, but I assume that since you're getting it for emergency power outages, you have a suitable generator to run the blower. And I would get one with blower- if you're trying to use a little stove in the basement to heat the whole house, you need all the help you can get!

I wouldn't worry too much about the child and the stove. Most of us either grew up in a house with woodstove right out in the middle of everything, or raised our kids with one- many, including me, did both. You'd be surprised how fast they learn- just another of the bumps and scrapes that are part of growin' up.
 
In your planning plan on a stainless steel pipe in the chimmey, the dealer is trying to sell you an insert. Chimmey won't handle the exhaust heat.
 
better be careful! Some prefabs say right on them they are not made for an insert.mine is like this.i dont know what would be the difference,but mine says it right on the it.and i checked on the manufacturers web site and they didnt recommend it there either if there were any doubt i would get a qualified person out to inspect it.neighbor had a chimney fire once,that thing had the place on fire right now!
 
What ever you do be sure to put a liner in the chimney and get it approved by the insurance agent after it is installed.
 
Work out a plan, then run it by your insurance company before you do anything.

As an Insurance Inspector I've noticed insurance companies are far more concerned about fireplace inserts than they are about free standing wood stoves.

Mostly 'cause after an insert is installed, it fills the fireplace and there's no real way to check how it's connected to the chimney or what's in the chimney for a flue. That's why I'd recommend running a plan past your insurance company first.
 
Been there done that. The biggest problem with using an insert in a masonry chimney in my opinion is the chimney won't get hot enough to stay clear of creosote, and you can't brush it off. Then you're in danger of it catching fire. If you're doing this I'd look at using flue pipe inside the chimney to avoid the buildup.
 
I've got a double door Fisher that sits in front of the fireplace, sheet of 1/4 inch stainless steel over the fireplace sealed with furnace cement, and a pipe connecting the two. Works good, or did before I got too lazy to use wood. Easy for the sweep to clean too.
 
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