Blackbear

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Question for you all who buy or have bought monsanto seed.

What has your experience been. I was reading an editorial today about evil monsanto bullying farmers, this and that. Any of it true or is it a bunch of hogwash. I am small vegetable farmer so I have no experience with them.

Thanks,
BB
 
Prolly just like anything else some people have good things to say others have negative to say.lol. My dealings with monsanto have been good for the most part. I dont plant any of there corn but do plant a good deal of Asgrow beans and use a good deal of round-up. All in all satisfied with them myself
 
I highly suggest, in the stongest possible terms, EVERYONE look up information on Monsanto, they are beyond evil. Not just what they do in court, but the make up their genetically modified products. Before you shrug this off, google some results. Thank you
 
Most of what you read is just the conspiracy theorist making stuff up. I use Monsanto products and don't recall being bullied or sued and all my neighbors are over whellmingly using Monsanto products also. There is another side to the high lighted court cases also that Monsanto explains on their website.
 
Monsanto is known for agressively protecting their intellectual property as allowed by law.

This has earned for them the moniker "evil" from some.

Dean
 
What can you say,they own the Roundup Ready gene. Yes,I use RR corn,Fielders Choice. I believe they are owned by Monsanto now. Bullying? No. Amazing how everybody in the media,from the main streem to talk radio likes to stick their noses in other peoples business where it doesn't belong AT ALL,isn't it?
 
They just about ruined my neighbors health with their strong armed tactics. Now, my neighbor was in the wrong. They admitted it. But the private spooks that Monsanto sent out, at night, to snoop around, the surveilance, clandestine photos, etc. Well, they were older farmers and it almost ruined their health and cost them a tub full of money.

The Gestapo had nothing much meaner.

Gene
 
Enjoy your roundup wile it last as the time is comeing when your weeds will be rsistent (some already are) to it...As is the case with all products sooner or later,,,,Not to mechen whats happening to our ground watter and rivers,,,,,Remember DDT,,,My Dad said when DDT came out it was the best thing since sliced bread,,,,,Just a thot but times are always changing
 
I farm 4400 acres of row crops and I can tell you all you would be hungry or food prices would be a lot more if not for their seed work..
All the tree hugers need to get a real life..
I would like to see you farm for a profit without rr seed.
 
in the spring, when I will be planting my dad's place I will use public seed. I am not a fan of Monsanto or there products. I find other products control weeds better than round-up also.

Leonard
 
In my opinion most of the brouhaha over Monsanto all boils down to SOME farmers signing a contract with Monsanto agreeing to certain conditions, mainly NOT TO SAVE SEED for future planting, and then breaking that contract by saving seed and planting it thus excluding Monsanto from development monies recovery, etc.

I fully blame a few lying, cheating, slimy, farmers for bringing almost all of the ill will to Monsanto that is ongoing.

Just as spoiled kids do they whimpered and whined and stomped their feet and told anybody that would listen that Monsanto was evil. They left out the part about their breaking a legal contract just as a lying child would do.

I'm not saying Monsanto is squeaky clean, but if they use tactics that some would consider dirty pool consider their millions upon millions of dollars invested in research that they are simply trying to protect.

They are one of the few companies that continues to invest heavily in research and should be allowed reward for their efforts.

I have used Monsanto seed and products and have never had any issue with them. I do have issues with groups that spread lies and half truths and don't even have a clue about what they speak of.
 
I make it a point not to do business with a seed company that thinks it can tell me what when and how i can do with seed i paid for and considder mine to do with as i wish.
 
I"m not a big fan of Monsanto but I think alot of the problem comes from people breaking contracts that they signed. Monsanto can also be a bully. Read some of the link below.
percyschmeiser
 
We've had nothing but good experiences with them. As was said, when you purchase the seed, you agree to a contract.

If you don't want to do that, buy somebody elses seed and don't spray your crop with Roundup. They spent the money on reserch and development, why shouldn't they reap all the rewards.

It seems pretty straight forward to me, breaking the contract is no better than going back on a handshake agreement in my book.

Why is it OK for a farmer to go back on his word to make a buck, but not OK for a company that spent millions in R&D to recoup their investment and enforce a contract??

I think we need to rethink our definition of Evil.
 
Only one or two companys owning all our seed is a very dangerous thing. Very soon there will be no seed that God made, because bees, birds and the wind contaminate the natural seeds, and then Monsator sues the farmer for stealing Monsanto's seed. Doesn't anybody besides me think that the farmer is the one who has been wronged? What are farmers going to do when they jack up the price so high you can't make a profit? If you try to save your own seed they will sue you.
It amazes me how many people are eating the poison that the farmers are selling. Corn is crossed with spider genes and the corn makes venom that will kill root worms and corn smut and then they make corn syrup and you gullible people eat it.
I refuse to eat your GMO poison.
Watch the movie. Monsanto has ruined many farmers and destroyed the seeds they have been saving for generations.
I had a friend who thought GMO foods were great. He starved to death while eating every day. His guts wouldn't absorb the food. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong. I think it was from the GMO foods.
I was having stomach problems and was drinking a bottle of pink stuff and a bottle of antacid every week. After I stopped eating GMO foods, I now have no problems.
Watch the movie and see how they ruin farmers. Monsanto has billions of dollars and half of the FDA is ex Monsanto employees. How can a small farmer fight them?
And some of you farmers side with Monsanto and disparage the farmers. You ought to be ashamed.
What is going to be the health of your kids and grandkids 10 or 20 years down the road, from this experiment, Mr. farmer? Or do you even care?
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Does your wife shop at WalMart?? If I wanted to watch movies, I'd believe that Fat Ba$tard Michael Moore or Al Gore.

If everybody but me supports smaller seed producers, they'll stay in business. Believe it or not, we buy seed from local firms, along with Monsanto. Everybody has their place, but the buggy whip manufacturing base is smaller than it used to be.


Channeling Dave2's people skills.......
 
I had a friend who thought GMO foods were great. He starved to death while eating every day. His guts wouldn't absorb the food. The doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong. I think it was from the GMO foods.

Wow!!!! Statements like this get traction on sites where people don't know any better.... I hope this isn't the case here.
 
Gene you're right. I'll use anyone CORN seed because it hybrid seed--means carry-over won't be the same. Beans and Wheat or any seed where the breeding is genetic are different.
Monsanto realized a while back they couldn't demand farmer not carry over seed when they buy seed and i haven't seen any such contract. What they do demand is that you not resell their geneticly altered seed or the off-spring of their seed.
On a different note but same subject.
Have you notice the rising incidence of round-up resistant weeds? It's happening and will get worse if as guy uses Round-up continously. Me? Only on soybeans. And it is a constant battle with the chemical company.
 
I kinda get a kick out of crap like this. Every field has an upwind side and a downwind side. Ever ask a health food freak where their soy products come from?
 
Some of the last words I heard out of Lindsay Hill before her accident were something to the effect of "some people won't be happy til we're all living on rice cakes and water".
 
In the US, Monsanto owns 90 percent of soy, 85 percent of corn, and 95 percent of sugar beets — all genetically modified. Avoiding the components of processed food that are made from these products means that the majority of goods from the supermarket are on the NO list. Most meat and dairy would be off limits, as everything from cattle to salmon are fed Monsanto corn.

As for me- I view Norman Buagman (sp?) as a hero, thank God for Monsanto's products and the people that grow them, and eat up every day.
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Having studied at the UW and working as student help in a bio-tech lab where we did transgenetic studies I saw the concern that the scientists had over companies like Monsanto. The problem is not totally the companies. The other half of the problem is patent laws that protect these types of companies. Here's the kicker...Monsanto can "discover" a gene and then patent it. If you use this naturally occuring gene in any of your research you then have to pay royalties to monsanto. A Belgian company I worked for after college was very good at this. The owner of the company would scour the jungles of south america looking for exotic species of plants. He would bring the specimens back to Belgium put pattents on them, send them to his lab in China where he woul multiply them, then ship them to his locations in Belgium and the US to grow them out and sell them. These plants and genetics are naturally occuring. They were not created by human beings, who's intellectual property is it then really?
 
we do use monsanto products on our farm i also raise hogs and could never get the farrowing numbers up or the house full at farrowing time i got to checking some things and a few others had the same problems we switched to non gmo corn for our breeding stock and saw an increase of 3 pigs per litter and more sows in the farrowing house. anyway corn bins got empty this summer and i had to buy corn it is roundup corn farrowings dropped 7 pigs per litter now vs 10 on none gmo also the hogs do eat more and finish out a little faster on the non gmo so i say it has its place in ethanol and non food related industrys but as far as animal ag it is no good.
 
wow- that's pretty compelling information. Alex Jones would tell you that the genetic crops real intention is sterilization of the consumers- and your experience would seem to confirm this!
 
The only way this argument is going to be solved is by independent research not funded by anyone connected with the GMO debate. We are not going to settle it here. Guys with grest returns from their fields from using GMO seed are not going to give up using them for less yields because that's less money. People who are against them are not going to back down. I attended a lecture by a college professor who claimed that Monsanto's didn't like the data turned up in some research the professor was involved in so Monsanto cut funding for the research. Now I don't know if he was telling the whole story, outright lying or completely honest.

I don't trust the political end to settle this. They too have too many agendas, "green" energy and voters who like cheap prices in the store being the big ones. That means the the FDA is out of the argument too.

Because of the unknowns I don't use them. When I'm convinced one way or the other I will make a final decision. Until then I will do what I'm doing which is trying to produce the best, safest product I can. I'll take a smaller yield till then to keep my conscious clear.

Rick
 
jose yes iould not of belived if myself if i hadnt saw it corn is corn right dad and i raised hogs together thru the 80s and 90s and always were above national average in litter size and performance now i am flyin solo with bettter facilitys and genetics but i just couldnt get there. i had heard rumors of this from dairy farmers on cattle not eating silage from gmo corn vs non gmo we were all non gmo in 2010 and pig numbers soared made a beliver out of me.
 

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