O/T Big box sporting stores question?

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The Cabela's store in Hoffman estates, IL has closed off the up stairs for sales and moved to the ground floor what is good items for them. Have any of the other store done this that you visit? This location is in Cook County with 10% sales tax. The Bass pro store in Springfield, MO is adding to the West in a closed maul. The Bass pro boat yard on I 44 is completely full of new boats. You can only buy so many new camo cloths in a life time.
 
The three Cabelas that I have been to only have one floor to begin with.

Don't think I would ever buy a boat from Cabelas or other Big Box Store. I'd rather buy from a local small dealer where there is some service to go with the sale.

Gary
 
Funny you should mention about new boats. Favorite daughter and I took a ride out to Buffalo N.Y. yesterday to give an uncle his final send off. The ride of course takes us thru the finger lakes region. I noticed a small boat dealer had probably 40 or 50 brand new boats lined up in his storage yard. These were not small "fishing boats" These are 18+ foot power boats! Is there something I missed in this "bad economy"? I parked my 16' runabout over 22 years ago when gas was still $.98 a gallon and I realized it was costing me a hundred bucks a day to lug that boat to the lake for the day so former wife's friends could have a good time! The day usually started around 6:00 AM and things were not settled down until after midnight.
Fun? For somebody...but it wasn't for me.
 
All of the big box stores have to make a profit just like any other business. The one in Cook County Il. Is just responding to that location's business climate. If the local sale tax is 3-4% higher than some where else that would be a big difference. The politicians don't seem to realize their actions directly effect the business climate. Illinois raised all of their taxes a lot this last year and then are surprised when many businesses left the state. Jimmy Johns is a case in point they moved their entire corporate head quarters to Florida. The extra taxes, personal and corporate, where going up an additional 2 million dollars.

Here in Iowa we have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the nation. It makes recruiting new companies harder. Ever wonder why Texas is growing like crazy??? No income tax and a low corporate tax rate. The sales tax is a killer at 10+% but I can control what I buy.
 
(quoted from post at 06:52:59 09/25/11) The sales tax is a killer at 10+% but I can control what I buy.

19% here Not so much ouch factor cause it's already included in the marked price (psychological thing yaknow.....)
 


Don't know haven't been to Cabela's in about a year. I do know that ther prices in em are a bit on the high side.

As far as buying a boat from em? Noy in this life. I don't thnk they service what they sell. So its kinda like the box store lawn mower thing and you have to take it to the closest authorized dealer who isn't going to be happy to have to do warrenty work on something he didn't sell and he's gonna darn sure put that behind his real customers stuff.

Spend? Thats about right. The only thing thats going to fix this econemy is for people to start spending. Unlike the last time they need to spend thier own money......not the banks!

Rick
 
need to spend thier own money......not the banks!
You are correct-unfortunately most people have no money and still owe the banks
 
It sort of depends where in the fingerlakes you went. On the south end of Cayuga lake where the economy is largely driven by Cornell the economy hasn't been much effected and people have money for boats. Canandaigua lake is driven by people with stable jobs in the Rochester area. This area didn't really participate that much in the bubble like some areas so it wasn't so adversly affected by the burst.
 
They had the former governor of Wisconsin on Jon Stewart and she said she cut corporate taxes about 70? times, but said that wasn't the problem or they would have businesses there. She said they were the proving ground for what doesn't work.
She said the problem was the states are competing against each other instead of as a whole in the global economy like China does.
 
The dealer is in Big Flats N.Y. at the south end of Seneca lake, 15 or so miles south of Watkins. I don't know if these are a floor plan type deal, or if the dealer just orders what he thinks he can sell. Or maybe he got a heck of an end of the season deal on them. I would be pretty nervous having inventory like that sitting there this late in the season, but then I'm not a gambler either.
 
You most live not all that far from me if you know things like the Tracker Marine plant being close to full. I can tell you story's about that and what we would do at the end of the year there. I worked at the one just off I-44 in Lebanon for a number of years
 
I think it is excess inventory. A locally owned R.V. dealer in N.E. Iowa is on cable T.V. all the tine trying to sell large campers. He must have too much inventory to carry through the winter. Who is thinking about buying a large camper trailer this time of year? A R.V. dealer about 50 miles south of here closed their doors about a year ago.
Bet it is this way all over.
 
Think you're probably talking about Michigan,I live in a Right to Work low tax state and we have lots of businesses that have moved from high tax union states.Maybe competiton will make states like Washington and Michigan get their act together.
 
(quoted from post at 11:01:13 09/25/11) Think you're probably talking about Michigan,I live in a Right to Work low tax state and we have lots of businesses that have moved from high tax union states.Maybe competiton will make states like Washington and Michigan get their act together.
We haven't been a high tax state in years. Our nnalert governor says that we are something like #15 in taxes - that's 15 from the bottom. We have cut taxes for years, and still lost jobs. As far as the right to work stuff, most of the small manufacturers are paying just about minimum wage. I think competition from China and Mexico, combined with a solid 5 month winter, makes it hard to attract business here.
 
The economy is overheated.New car dealers have giant inventories.Same with RV dealers, who owns the products on display?I see some people spending money like mad while others have been made homeless by banks.My real estate taxes have doubled in 10 years while my income has dropped every year.
 

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