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Sad day in the Hogleg house

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Hogleg

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We had to put down our daughter's favorite mare last night, Nestle.

She was the first horse we bought after we escaped from the big city (Austin) to live the rural life here in Southern Illinois 3+ years ago. We bought her even before we had a house built. She lived through all of the changes for the last 3 years and had just had a new colt foal (our first from her, 4th for her overall). She died one month to the day from the birth due to colic. We even had emergency surgery done but it was in vain.

As I sit here typing this through the tears, I wonder how these animals grow to touch our hearts so well.

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She is so missed...

John
 
Beautiful mare, sorry for your loss

I know how them horses are I use to play "tag" with my horses, well actually it was more like "hide n seek" they liked and I did too.

~Will
 
We went through that last year when we had to put
our 10 year old Chow Taz to sleep from stomach cancer. We were broken hearted. We bought another Chow pup when the vet told us Taz wouldn't survive. Hal
PS: Here are pictures of her at 8 weeks and 6 months. We call her Sug that's short for SugarBear.
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My wife has made me a bit sour on horses due to how
much work it is for me to keep them fed. That being
said, I still understand where you're coming from
and I'm sorry for your family's loss.

Jay
 
Hogleg, I too am sorry to hear that Y'all had to put down a family member. Yes!, When we take these animals into our lives they become family, Most especially Horses and Dogs.
It is a Mystery from God, that these animals develop a connection to us Humans!
There is a Oneness that is developed over time that a man and a horse get to, Thats only gotten by miles and miles of riding in various situations. Having a good Cowey Horse between your knees is truly amazing, to watch him/her work the natural instincts that God gave them and you have the most perfect birds eye view. To Know, that at any given moment you know what your Horse will Do, No Matter the situation! amd at that some moment Your Horse Knows!, what you want or need!!!
The Lord must have known at the dawning of time that we would need them and they need us. Again Sorry to hear the news.
Later,
John A.
 
Its bad enough when you have to put them down after a long and productive life, but just devastating when you lose them in their prime, and with a foal to boot.

So sorry for your loss.
 
Very sorry for your loss. I had to have my very first horse put down 2 yrs ago after he couldn't get up one day. I had him for 25 years. They certainly do become members of the family.
 
Sorry to hear of the loss of your familys friend. We have gone through this many times with dogs, cats, and a couple horses. It isn't easy. Just be comforted by knowing while the horse was with your family, you gave it the best care possible. Stan
 
That really sucks.....Any idea what gave her the colic??? We've had it 3 times but always caught it in the first stage and was able to fix it before surgery was necessary...was real close this last time a couple weeks ago. Someone shook an apple tree on the pasture and a mare gorged herself on apples.....
It's gonna be hard not to spoil the little guy I guess.......... We had to be mom for one that age fow 6 weeks or so a few years ago. You'll find it a lot simpler than some experts, vets, and salespeople will have you believe. If you need any pointers, shoot me an email
[email protected]

Good Luck.

Dave
 
Dave,

Twisted colon near the cecum. Removed the twist, removed the blocked matter, colon looked good, but the colon must have had an unseen weak spot and ruptured after the surgery letting fecal into the body cavity. That is a death sentence... At the point of surgery being needed very few survive it appears. Where the blockage occurs, the gut starts to degrade (die) rapidly. It is a race against time. We lost...

No idea why the colon was twisted. Have had a couple of prior bouts with colic but she recovered immediately after tubing and mineral oil therapy.

Foal is doing fine so far. Eating dry foal food, hay and water. Tried replacer but not working. Vet said don't worry, he is old enough to survive on dry food at this point.

John
 
(quoted from post at 12:20:49 09/18/11) Dave,

Twisted colon near the cecum. Removed the twist, removed the blocked matter, colon looked good, but the colon must have had an unseen weak spot and ruptured after the surgery letting fecal into the body cavity. That is a death sentence... At the point of surgery being needed very few survive it appears. Where the blockage occurs, the gut starts to degrade (die) rapidly. It is a race against time. We lost...

No idea why the colon was twisted. Have had a couple of prior bouts with colic but she recovered immediately after tubing and mineral oil therapy.

Foal is doing fine so far. Eating dry foal food, hay and water. Tried replacer but not working. Vet said don't worry, he is old enough to survive on dry food at this point.

John
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Who knows why a lot of stuff happens with these things???????????? If he's doing that good as far as eating and drinking, you prolly got it beat...
I'm not a big fan of feeding babies grain but at that age, you gotta do something to get the goodies to him. You're (or your daughter) gonna have plenty of bonding time and oughta have a real good horse out of him. Have you got a goat without horns or maybe a calf to put with him to play with?
 
A Friend had a 1 year old Clydesdale die from
intestine "Twisted up". Does anyone know why/how
this happens? Is it only a horse thing?
 
Greygoat (BTW, great handle!)

I think I found out what happened. Found this on The Horse.com in an article called "Colic in Broodmares: Special Considerations"

[b:c876e71e92]Colonic Displacements and Torsions[/b:c876e71e92]

"Broodmares are especially at risk of developing large colon displacements and torsions, especially in the first 100 days post-foaling," Mair said. This is believed to be due to the increased space within the abdomen that arises following the birth of the foal; the increased space allows the large colon to move and sometimes twist.

This ailment yields different degrees of colic-related clinical signs associated with the degree of displacement or torsion in the large colon, Mair explained: "A large colon volvulus (twist) will present as a violently painful colic, often with a very high heart rate (60-100 beats per minute), whereas a simple colonic displacement (without a twist) may present with mild to moderate signs of colic with a relatively normal heart rate."

He noted prompt surgical correction of the displacement is necessary in most cases: "The prognosis for mares with large colon volvulus is poor. Surgery needs to be undertaken rapidly if the mare is going to have any chance of surviving. The outlook for mares with simple displacements of the large colon (without a twist) is much better, and most affected mares will survive following surgical correction."

So if I were to find fault in what we did it was having her bred. Well, pretty hard to have a broodmare and not breed her. We got her into surgery around 12 hours after we saw the first signs of colic. Was not fast enough to save her, the colon had already been too damaged.

Dave2 - we have a yearling colt 1/2 brother ("A brutha from a different mutha") from same stud. He is just 2 and is helping a lot. He is gelded and easy going. Just need to get the foal to stop trying to suck on him :oops:

John
 
(quoted from post at 06:23:54 09/19/11) Greygoat (BTW, great handle!)

I think I found out what happened. Found this on The Horse.com in an article called "Colic in Broodmares: Special Considerations"

[b:aa80b1d410]Colonic Displacements and Torsions[/b:aa80b1d410]

"Broodmares are especially at risk of developing large colon displacements and torsions, especially in the first 100 days post-foaling," Mair said. This is believed to be due to the increased space within the abdomen that arises following the birth of the foal; the increased space allows the large colon to move and sometimes twist.

This ailment yields different degrees of colic-related clinical signs associated with the degree of displacement or torsion in the large colon, Mair explained: "A large colon volvulus (twist) will present as a violently painful colic, often with a very high heart rate (60-100 beats per minute), whereas a simple colonic displacement (without a twist) may present with mild to moderate signs of colic with a relatively normal heart rate."

He noted prompt surgical correction of the displacement is necessary in most cases: "The prognosis for mares with large colon volvulus is poor. Surgery needs to be undertaken rapidly if the mare is going to have any chance of surviving. The outlook for mares with simple displacements of the large colon (without a twist) is much better, and most affected mares will survive following surgical correction."

So if I were to find fault in what we did it was having her bred. Well, pretty hard to have a broodmare and not breed her. We got her into surgery around 12 hours after we saw the first signs of colic. Was not fast enough to save her, the colon had already been too damaged.

Dave2 - we have a yearling colt 1/2 brother ("A brutha from a different mutha") from same stud. He is just 2 and is helping a lot. He is gelded and easy going. Just need to get the foal to stop trying to suck on him :oops:

John
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You can't wrap them in bubble wrap....... Our first foal is 10 now. Lady that has him treats him like a king, worms on schedule, yada yada..everything necessary to ensure he lives a life of luxury.... Folks where she boards him put out a round bale of straw one morning and he stuffed himself full before drinking a bunch of water. They operated on him and took out close to a hundred pounds of wet/packed straw and feed..

You'll drive yourself nuts with the coulda, shoulda, woulda's...
 
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