Just watching the news this evening and they were talking about the power outages in Connecticut. I can't believe they have to send law enforcement out to protect the utility workers from irate customers. Are things run that bad down there with the utilities or the situation far worse than the average person realizes in terms of storm damage? They had some expert on talking about how it's a travesty to have above ground service in this day and age. I don't think he realizes how expensive it is to do a full conversion and that the consumer ultimately foots the bill. I thought the "story" was a little over done.
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The alternative is to have a program to have been cutting the trees away from the overhead primary, and do it for year after year. But you ought to hear the howls from the customers.
But they got a choise; remove the overhanging limbs and trees now, or remove them later.
But they got a choise; remove the overhanging limbs and trees now, or remove them later.
showcrop
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A lot of people have no clue about retro-burying utilities. Just think of the millions per mile in many areas of the east just to get Rights-of-way and easements before a shovel is put in the ground. Everyone would plan on getting rich from their 200 feet of road frontage.
Shetland Sheepdog
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I'm entitled to have power 24/7/365! Idon't give a rat's --- whether the rest of the world is off or on! You lineworkers better turn my power back on NOW, and if you don't there will be he double hockey sticks to pay! Also, STOP with the half baked excuses! I don't really care what the problem is!
Okay, turning the sarcasm light off now!
Dave, utility lineworker, retired
Okay, turning the sarcasm light off now!
Dave, utility lineworker, retired
Vito
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It is very expensive to do underground repairs when something goes wrong.Burying isn't going to work if people want to keep the rates affordable.
I was without for for 2 1/2 days but was prepared with my generator . When we built our house we had a transfer switch installed knowing that power would be lost on occasion.Doesn't run the whole house but it runs everything needed for daily life to continue.
Some people just don't like to plan for these circumstances.
Vito
I was without for for 2 1/2 days but was prepared with my generator . When we built our house we had a transfer switch installed knowing that power would be lost on occasion.Doesn't run the whole house but it runs everything needed for daily life to continue.
Some people just don't like to plan for these circumstances.
Vito
Shetland Sheepdog
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986, I disagree! It isn't just the moneyed folks! This "it's all about me" attitude is everywhere!
JMHO, Dave
JMHO, Dave
Bob Bancroft
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None of the above.
It's how many people act today, from all walks of life. The one they take their frustration out on is the first, (and only) one they see. And that's not the dispatcher, the foreman, nor the CEO, nor any one else who doesn't have to get out in any weather and try to fix things.
It's how many people act today, from all walks of life. The one they take their frustration out on is the first, (and only) one they see. And that's not the dispatcher, the foreman, nor the CEO, nor any one else who doesn't have to get out in any weather and try to fix things.
Paul from MI
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Here in rural Michigan we have thousands of miles of overhead power lines. Yes they could be underground, but who would pay for it. Far cheaper to own a generator to get you by on the occasions when power is out. Now this idea that any power company can provide interuption free power no matter what mother nature throws at it is just idiotic. This all goes along with the entitlement, not my responsibility, lazy a$$, thought process of a lot of the country these days. I'm so dang tired of people blaming everything but themselves for every problenm that comes along, and not doing one thing to prepare or help themselves I could scream. Maybe I am screaming!
Could you find an article about that. I looked on the net and didn't see anything. And having just getting my power back, I haven't see the news yet, and the radio never mentioned it. Only guys being arrested for stealing power cables for scrap.
I cannot blame people for being upset (not to the point of crews needing protection). I lost power power Sunday morning, before storm really hit, and it took almost 5 days to get power back. And it wasn't even a hurricane. We had a small tree top that was on top of the lines. I watched a tree crew (power company's hire out tree crews) go under it 4 times in the past 3 days, plus 2 power company trucks.
Then there are many, many towns that still have 60% of the homes no power yet. Not saying there right, but we (as a state of CT) pay the second highest electric rates in the country (behind Hawaii), I expect a little better response from the power company, which keeps raising our rates and give us poor customer service because.
My fear is what happens if a real hurricane hits, like Gloria did 25 years ago? We lost power then for 5 days and it was hurricane, now i losing it it for that long, on a tropical storm.
And yes, I had a generator running around the clock for my sump pump. And having the highest gas prices in the country (I am paying $3.85 gal), it cost me $140 for gassing the generator. which also leads to frustration and anger.
bob
I cannot blame people for being upset (not to the point of crews needing protection). I lost power power Sunday morning, before storm really hit, and it took almost 5 days to get power back. And it wasn't even a hurricane. We had a small tree top that was on top of the lines. I watched a tree crew (power company's hire out tree crews) go under it 4 times in the past 3 days, plus 2 power company trucks.
Then there are many, many towns that still have 60% of the homes no power yet. Not saying there right, but we (as a state of CT) pay the second highest electric rates in the country (behind Hawaii), I expect a little better response from the power company, which keeps raising our rates and give us poor customer service because.
My fear is what happens if a real hurricane hits, like Gloria did 25 years ago? We lost power then for 5 days and it was hurricane, now i losing it it for that long, on a tropical storm.
And yes, I had a generator running around the clock for my sump pump. And having the highest gas prices in the country (I am paying $3.85 gal), it cost me $140 for gassing the generator. which also leads to frustration and anger.
bob
here in Chester, VA. I'm mighty grateful for having the electricity not go out but 5 times in the last 22 yrs . thrice for cars taking out important poles and twice for hurricanes. the hurricanes last about a week ,last Saturday the power went out and have been on generator since . the car damage lasted about one or two depending on the size or how many poles it pulled down . my hat is off to those who just try to make life a little better for the most of us . think about it the next time an ice storm hits your area.
My Aunt and Uncle are still with out power. They ended up just coming up to their camp here in Maine.
Most of CT is just an extended suburb of NYC. To many people in a relatively small area IMHO. That and folks seem to very little patience for pretty much everything.
Technically I'm from CT, I don't mind visiting but I'm happy here in Maine.
K
Most of CT is just an extended suburb of NYC. To many people in a relatively small area IMHO. That and folks seem to very little patience for pretty much everything.
Technically I'm from CT, I don't mind visiting but I'm happy here in Maine.
K
Here in central Michigan, power company has allowed much of their distribution system to degrade. Much of it is old, and over loaded, and deteriorated. When the system goes down, they do a fast repair, and leave it for the next time. Wonder how long before the whole thing goes down. To their credit, they have had a contractor trimming off the worst of the branches on some lines, long over due. And they had several crews en route to New York, even before the storm hit.
My experience, which is extensive and up close and personal, is that people in southwestern Connecticut think the universe revolves around them. They are the rudest, most arrogant and snobbish people on the planet. In reality, they make their money in New York and go home and act like big-shots.
Extended power outages are rare but when they happen you need a small generator.My 5k generator kept my freezer and refridgerator cold when power was off for 24 hours.It can run the oil furnace ,but we have two wood stoves.We had an 8 day outage in 1998 in January.Wife and I went to the Windsor Fair yesterday,I noticed that most homes have a big wood pile in the yard .
Back in the 50's the power Co cut the line right-of-way wiht their employs. In the 60's started having someone else do it. in the 70's started spraying it with checmals still hireing cutting some time. in the 90's quit both just trimming & spraying when had trouble. up to to to day the only time they do anything is when a limb bring the line down. We have had more outages in the last few years than ever. it is all "MONEY" . And you don't want me to get started about that.
Harold Hubbard
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Central Vermont here.
We just got power back last night, been out since Sunday.
There were 30 pole trucks and support vehicles in town, including a couple of Bombardier tracked pole setters that I saw. Many of them were from Quebec. I don't know how many poles were down, but in many places they were looking for some ground to plant the new ones in. It's kind of hard to put a pole between the road and the river if the river is cutting under the road bank. Underground would have been real "easy" to work on, as much of it would have been hanging in thin air, or from the trees. I don't think anybody who was working on road repairs bothered to call DIG-SAFE.
The local substation was more or less hanging from its overhead wires. I didn't see it, but I understand that once the roads were open, they brought in a portable temporary substation and hooked that up.
They had one hundred and fifty percent community support. Anybody that threatened the workers in any way would have wound up as fill in some of the road repairs.
We just got power back last night, been out since Sunday.
There were 30 pole trucks and support vehicles in town, including a couple of Bombardier tracked pole setters that I saw. Many of them were from Quebec. I don't know how many poles were down, but in many places they were looking for some ground to plant the new ones in. It's kind of hard to put a pole between the road and the river if the river is cutting under the road bank. Underground would have been real "easy" to work on, as much of it would have been hanging in thin air, or from the trees. I don't think anybody who was working on road repairs bothered to call DIG-SAFE.
The local substation was more or less hanging from its overhead wires. I didn't see it, but I understand that once the roads were open, they brought in a portable temporary substation and hooked that up.
They had one hundred and fifty percent community support. Anybody that threatened the workers in any way would have wound up as fill in some of the road repairs.
We were down about 5 days in '98. The line workers were welcomed everywhere they went. My Grandmother wanted to feed them but they declined.
Funny story, some of the line workers were from down south and were curious why we set our "Two Holers" out on the ice like that.
I hope to get over to Windsor Saturday.
K
Anonymous-0
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I've not seen or heard anything about CT residents attacking line workers or tree service employees.
Couple of people in the North East part of the state were stealing downed lines for scrap(?).
Couple of people in the North East part of the state were stealing downed lines for scrap(?).
Anonymous-0
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what would you expect from a state that elected Lieberman?
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