What would you have done in these situations?

JOCCO

Well-known Member
Buying/looking at equipment:
1. Guy says item runs good etc, Get there battery s dead soon as it is boosted it is out of fuel?? (I thanked him and left)
2.Haybaler went to look at it asked if we could run a few bales guy says its all cleand out and stored no twine etc etc but it works ok. (I thanked him and left)
3. Got to place guy told me the item was way down back across field etc (was reading some news paper and acted disinterested) Stood there for a few minites, finally asked him if he was going down with me he said no. I simply left.
 
well i want out pen yan ny which is about 2 1/2 hrs away to look a jd 7000 6 row planter this spring and guy was asking a good price for it but when i got out there he started moaning a little im not sure i want to sell it or not now. i felt like jumping up and down. thn the next couple days he kept calling and asked if i still wanted to buy it but i said no.
 
I went and looked at a Ford 861D the other day. Looked real nice, rubber was pretty good. Ask the owner how much he wanted. Started out with "5700 not negotiable it's worth 6500. Why I used 200 LBS of sand blasting it and it's got less than 100 hours on new rings"......I left and as I was leaving he's following me....."well I'd let it go today for 5500" and as I was putting on my seat belt dropped it to 5K.

Still lookinf for a 50HP tractor!

Rick
 
When I was a used tractor dealer many years ago I drove many miles to Illinois to look at an IHC 1066. When I arrived the farmer/owener was under another tractor working on it and looked up n tells me "The tractor is over in the other shed and it takes (something like I forget now) $10,000 to buy it, if you want it fine but if not Im busy so get outa here"

NORMALLY I would have left butttttttttt I had an order for that exact tractor and at a decent profit so I took a look see n test drove n bought it and sold it at home immediately woooooooo hoooooooo

The things you described Id likely have left also

John T
 
When I was a used tractor dealer many years ago I drove many miles to Illinois to look at an IHC 1066. When I arrived the farmer/owener was under another tractor working on it and looked up n tells me "The tractor is over in the other shed and it takes (something like I forget now) $10,000 to buy it, if you want it fine but if not Im busy so get outa here"

NORMALLY I would have left butttttttttt I had an order for that exact tractor and at a decent profit so I took a look see n test drove n bought it and sold it at home immediately woooooooo hoooooooo

The things you described Id likely have left also

John T
 
I think some people just ask a price to see if they can get it. Just like on here or craigslist, some tractor's are priced ok and other's are priced in some other planet.
 
Had my old 87 Dakota parked out at the farm place.Parked it about 4 plus years ago. Hadn't run since last year and only for a few minutes then. Guy calls and asked, you want to sell it . I said, ya. Does it run. I said not worth a darn. How much, I said what will you give me . He says, 100-150. I said ok, Says he will drive over and take a better look at it. Ok, next day, calls, asks, do you have a battery, I said no. Also told him starter and relay were not working well. He says, well, maybe I will call and see what a starter costs, and if we can get it running. I said, it is what it is. No more , no less. Then he said, well he intended to use it and it would probably cost a few hundred to get it ok to use. I said yaa, tires probably worth more than truck. He says, well, I will think about it. Few days later, I got it running on most cylinders, not all, drove it to salvage yard, he gave me $200 bucks, I'm happy. It is what it is doesn't seem to register with some. Darned if I was going to spend a bunch of time getting it going to his satisfaction. All I wanted was to get it out of the way.
 
1. So? If he's not using it, the battery goes dead and the tank won't get filled.
2. If you didn't buy it, would you have volunteered to clean all the hay out of it for him?
3. Ever sold some thing that 20 tire kickers come to see? Gets tiring wasting your day on them.

I'm a bit jaded since Craigslist/Kijiji. Lot of idiots wasting my time.
 
(quoted from post at 09:14:36 08/29/11) Buying/looking at equipment:
1. Guy says item runs good etc, Get there battery s dead soon as it is boosted it is out of fuel?? (I thanked him and left)
2.Haybaler went to look at it asked if we could run a few bales guy says its all cleand out and stored no twine etc etc but it works ok. (I thanked him and left)
3. Got to place guy told me the item was way down back across field etc (was reading some news paper and acted disinterested) Stood there for a few minites, finally asked him if he was going down with me he said no. I simply left.

You have discovered your inner people skills Grasshopper.......
You may now proceed to the next level......
 
I would have done the same thing you did. I would have been tempted to beat their a$$e$ for wasting my time though...
 
Depends on price and how much I wanted them. I normally don't make guys jump through hoops to sell something- sometimes, the less interaction with them, the better. I'd probably have gone down in the back field by myself on #3.

Since I usually buy at auction, I wouldn't be too concerned about demonstrating the baler, unless he was asking a top price.

But I would have walked, just like you, on #1- there's a certain amount of prep that's expected when one is selling, like having a machine ready to run, if its being sold that way. Dead battery? Well, maybe- but put a "loaner" battery in it until you sell it. But out of gas? Come on. . .at some point, the lameness of the owner translates into concerns about maintenance and usability of his equipment. If you want to sell it, have it ready.

Wife and I went to look at a diesel pickup- it seemed too expensive for the description, but was close by. When we got there, the guy had not one, but two vehicles pulled up to jump it, one on each battery. Went to get in, and wife jumped back- "I'm not getting in that thing."- Inside was so damp that mold and MUSHROOMS were growing on the seats. It obviously hadn't been started in months. We told him not to bother starting it (it wasn't going to, anyhow), we weren't interested. He started yelling about "tire kickers", we just waved and drove off.

That was a year and a half ago, and the rig hasn't moved.
 
Last year, I looked at a Ford tractor with 5 pieces of equipment. It was priced reasonable so after checking out--ready to buy---the seller gets a call on his cell phone. I can hear his responses to questions about the machinery and he stops call.
He waves his hands and says "You are too late! Just sold it!"
Dumfounded, I get into my truck, with equipment trailer and leave for the 20 mile trip home.
Next day he calls and asks if I am still interested.
I told him yes if he would deliver it.
Never heard from him again but drove by his place a few weeks later and it was still parked in his shed!
I guess things happen for a reason because two days after looking at his eqipment, I found a super good buy in a much nicer tractor and 4 pieces of equipment.
 
I can see both sides on that sometimes, but yea, gets kinda silly.

Craig's List has made sellers just as rude as they keep saying about ius buyers - 2 way street there.

Was a car trailer on the side of the road, saw it there with a 4sale sign for over a week.

Saw someone in the yard one day, so stopped in & chatted with him about the trailer. He talked for quite a while, being polite I worked with the conversation. Finally asked what he wanted for the trailer we were looking at the whole time.

Well, he wasn't sure he really was selling it now, and he might have a buyer lined up.

Huh? Well - geez. Can't even get his bad story straight.

--->Paul
 
I checked out a lawn tractor, last week, that a person listed in the local paper. I called and he said he wasn't sure he wanted to sell.
My response was----Well it's hard enough trying to buy something, I am not about to talk a person into selling and then try to negotiate!!
Changed his attitude immediately---I bought the tractor!
 
I was interesyed in a tractor in north carolina.The guy had it priced for 2900 on
craigslist.I told him i would take it.He said a guy down the road was interested.I offered him 400 more than he was asking.He said he would let me know,but never did.
 
Have you ever heard of a honey-do list? Well, periodically my wife tries a honey-sell list. I do sell stuff that I just simply don't need anymore, but not often.

Christopher
 
I would have done the same. I drove over an hour to look at something once. They knew I was coming and I showed up at the time I said. Nobody was home. Call the kid up and he said he didn't think I was serious, he went to dinner with his girlfriend and her parents. Texted him a picture of a bunch of cash fanned out with his house in the background, and said you caught me, I was just pulling your leg. And my friend peed on his front door before we left.
 
I put an old motor bike out front with for sale sign,no price. Guy asks what I wanted for it. $50 I told him. He test rode and offed $40. I turned it down. My neighbor recovered seat for $10. Guy returns and says he will take it for $50. Nope,I need $60. He stoomps off telling me what I crook I was,cranked his truck then killed it and come back in yard pulling out his wallet saying he will pay $60 eventhough I was being an a-hole about selling it. Mister you have the option to buy when I give you a price and I have the option to raise or lower the price at any point after you turn down stated price. So here is the deal. I want $75 right now but don't count on anything after you have walked away. He handed me $75 without another word. My brother told that story for 20 years. Now having said that,I would never increase the price until the buyer had the oppertunity to buy it,make a deposit or otherwise respond. I am a firm beiever in the saying "prices are subject to adjustment according to buyer's attitude".
 
I don't get it, he told you you was to late and it was sold or the guy on the phone??/
 
You need to buy from me ! I hook it all up and demo it for my buyers. Then they still beat me to death on price.
Seems like people like buying from an auction where you buy something you know nothing about and can't run it and they will even pay WAYYY more then it's worth.
 
They have lots of exposure and there are still some people who can read the ad that use the service. There aren't any other choices locally.
 
And that right there sums up what it's all about... You were peeved at the guy... but you had a margin and you wanted the tractor.

Way I look at buying old stuff like this... if you want the thing for whatever reason, be prepared yourself to get it running. Bring a spare battery... or baler twine if that's what one wants to see working... or a can of gas.
Could just as easily walked away from the deal of the month because he was peeved about this or that...

Rod
 
$1 and #2 i would probably have done as you did.
On #3 I probably would have walked over and had a look at it. Sometimes it's good to look something over without a steady sales pitch in your ear.
 
I have had some of the same deals that you talk about,but I bought an auction topper from a man in Alabama ,I live in Va.I liked his price but was a little conserned about the distance to get it home,he said that he would bring it to me for X#$,less than it would have cost me to go after it no money down and I said that would be great,he did what he said,and so did I, great guy to deal with,still so honist people in the world.
 
He can do what he wants with it as he is in a better position to make that decision. It was rusted bad. I had an engine fall on one of my vehicles years ago. Have seen a few front suspensions break on the road from rust. And , also, had to literally pull my feet up on an old chev pickup I had. There comes a time to just say good bye to a faithful old friend.
 
I'm in ohio. Which M.O. are you referring to, not being home to sell something, or peeing on peoples houses?
 
# 1, i would have done the same as you, had that about same thing happen to me when i was 16, he was a tractor jockey that advertised them as great tractors but were actually crappy, from that day forward i've always asked people if they are a jockey or not some get ------ but i do not wish to buy from one who makes a quick profit and usualy knows very little about the tractor except everything they covered up and are not telling you!

#2, i would not have been scared if he seemed like a nice honest person, it's a lot of work to get a baler all cleaned up, then turnaround and spend 20 min hooking it up and getting hay to put through it and then spending another 30 min. cleaning it all up after you maybe decided not to buy it, do that for the first 10 tire kickers who want a dime for a penny and you'll understand my point but with that being said he could have not cleaned out the bale shute and had a tractor and hay standing by for everyone to test it out

#3, i would have looked at it, i sometimes like to look at something first by myself and then ask questions if i'm still interested, for example i hate car lots them dam vultures are on you before you even get out to look at the first truck on the lot and are trying to sell you something you don't want,

just my 2 cents worth,
 
(quoted from post at 19:57:55 08/29/11) # 1, i would have done the same as you, had that about same thing happen to me when i was 16, he was a tractor jockey that advertised them as great tractors but were actually crappy, from that day forward i've always asked people if they are a jockey or not some get ------ but i do not wish to buy from one who makes a quick profit and usualy knows very little about the tractor except everything they covered up and are not telling you!

#2, i would not have been scared if he seemed like a nice honest person, it's a lot of work to get a baler all cleaned up, then turnaround and spend 20 min hooking it up and getting hay to put through it and then spending another 30 min. cleaning it all up after you maybe decided not to buy it, do that for the first 10 tire kickers who want a dime for a penny and you'll understand my point but with that being said he could have not cleaned out the bale shute and had a tractor and hay standing by for everyone to test it out

#3, i would have looked at it, i sometimes like to look at something first by myself and then ask questions if i'm still interested, for example i hate car lots them dam vultures are on you before you even get out to look at the first truck on the lot and are trying to sell you something you don't want,

just my 2 cents worth,

Years ago my wife and I were shopping for a car. On a cold, wet and windy wet day we drove into a dealers lot to take a look at a car in the front row. There were 6 or 7 sales people just standing outside the door. When I went to stop and get out I told my wife watch the stampede! I jumped out, looked at the window sticker, jumped make in and started moving. It was kinda funny to watch as all of em were trying to walk the fastest and followed us all around the lot till on got smart and cut us off. Yer right they are a bunch of vultures!

Rick
 
I would rather buy off a jockey than most farmers.You need to look it over and decide for yourself,doesn't matter what they tell you. A jocky might not know the history of something,he can only go by what was told him by the seller.
Farmers know they will never see you again and will lie just like anyone else.A lot more people get ripped buy old farmers and regular guys than by jocky's.
 

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