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I recently purchased an oliver 1365 which is made by fiat...seems like they have a pretty good reputation...just curious if all fiat tractors have a good reputation? I know they made them for hesston...not sure what other brands?
Appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks Reaver
 
You have to be careful of Italian engineering - Do you know why Lamborghini's, Ferrari's, and Maserati's are such beautiful cars? So they still look good while broken down along side the road. LOL Sorry - I couldn't resist that.
 
Can"t say about their tractors, but I had a Fiat Uno car in Brazil for awhile in the late 90"s that was on par with the Yugo and my company has some Agusta helicopters that have some quality issues and poor support.
 
Actually if you go and look Fiat cars have a terrible reputation. And once designs moved past what they got from AC when they bought the construction division Fiat has just about vanished in the US....google Fiat Allis.

CaseIH and New Holland and thier European truck division are what carrying them right now.

Rick
 
Actually, if you get right down to looking at the current CNH lineup... the tractors are now derived heavily from products of Fiat heritage. Nearly all of the Ford and Case/IH heritage is gone from the present models and it's gone in favor of Fiat components.
Fiat/Hesston tractors never had anything to do with Allis Chalmers designs.
Fiat has been building tractors for a long time. About as long as Ford was... and certainly longer than AC. That's not to say that I think Fiat builds a great tractor... or a terrible tractor. They seem to concentrate on something in the middle. Just about the minimum of what the market will tolerate and still pay decent to big money for...

Rod
 
I have heard that once you get up past 80 hp you're not getting close to the same quality as the lower horsepower. Unless you're really hard up for money I would approach Fiat with great caution. But then again if you're hard up for money it will not help having to run for parts and a mechanic all the time.
The media was all excited when Fiat got into Chrysler recently but we will have to see what really happens. Some people can't seem to separate the notion that they like Italian food and culture from how a manufacturing business may operate. I really don't expect great things.
 
I'm pretty sure Fiat built the model 5050 for Allis and built the back half of the models 6060,6070 and 6080. Otherwise I think you summed it up very well. A neighbor bought a "Farmall" 75A recently and I'm not terribly impresssed. Just like you said, the minimum that the market will tolerate and pay well for.
 
I own 2 Oliver 1365 tractors a 2WD and a 4WD couple of the best tractors I've ever owned.European designers were way ahead of US tractor builders back then.Parts are 1/2 price those of almost any other brand Import Tractor in
Canada has any part on that 1365 including new engines and every part for the 4WD frontend.What US built tractor from the 70's can you do that with?
 
I have had a 1365 2wd diesel for about 5 years now. With a TSC suspension seat, it is the most comfortable tractor I have to trim rough pasture with, so I am going to keep it for quite a while.
It also works excellent on an Oliver 60T small square baler.

Danny Bowes at Import Tractor has kept me supplied
with all the parts and coaching I needed so far (gauge cluster, master switch, hood latch, etc.) except for the $85 GM one wire alternator that I substituted for the more expensive original when it quit.

Starts good in cold weather (it has two engine
block heaters if needed). Mine gets moisture
in the hytran oil if I leave it parked outside during rainy weather. I haven't solved that yet. Excellent brakes for hill country. The 3pt disappoints/surprises me sometimes. 3pt links/pto and hitch height/pto are not the same as JD 530-720 or Oliver 1650, measure and adjust carefully.

It seems real easy on fuel. Danny Bowes at Import
Tractor says they are the most popular chore
tractor in Canada, but that he has never seen a
2wd model even though he sells parts for them.
 
Fiat licensed their designs to a lot of other tractor manufacturers. UTB was I believe a Romanian built Fiat... as well as some Long models I believe and doubtless many others. Several of those AC models, IIRC, were pure Fiat's.

Rod
 

Neighbor has had one with a loader since new. I've seen it run for 20 years, never asked him about it, but it runs.
 
The Farmall 75A is not exactly a workhorse of a tractor. It was not designed to be. The CaseIH A series tractors are built in India with a basic design utilizing old technology to give the masses what they want... a cheap brand new tractor. They are simply a price point nothing more. I think it's interesting all the older folks I know (longing for the "good old days") who say they want a brand new no frills tractor that they can afford, but when they see it they aren't impressed. You get what you pay for. Don't judge a brand by one model series. If you want a work horse then buy a workhorse. The U series is an excellently reliable series. Better yet is the Maxxum line. These aren't cheap but they will do some hard work.
 
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