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Ultradog MN

Ultradog MN

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I don't get horses.
What good is a horse in this day and age.
They are expensive, eat a lot, require expensive vet checks.
Why do people make such a big deal out of owning horses? Is it a status synmbol?
It seems everybody has to get their minimum 5 acre plot so they can have livestock. Then they put up fancy barns and fancy fences and buy a lot of tack so they can ride the goofy horse twice a month.
Then they got to buy a big expensive 1 ton truck and a horse trailer with living quarters in it so they can take the horse to a couple of shows.
And don't forget about a lot of fancy horse clothes and shoes, etc that you got to buy so you can properly ride your horse at the show. Kind of like the Harley Davidson people in their special getup so they can ride a motorcycle.
If I had one of those mini ranchettes I would have a pig or two or maybe a couple of herfords. They don't cost much more to feed and you can eat them. Horse just loafs around for 20 plus years and then has to have a vet put him down.
What is the deal about horses?
Do we have to keep a few horses around so we can fulfill the prophecy in Revelations about the Horsemen?
And lately since the economy has slid under there are more and more people losing their ranchettes yet they will keep their horse till the bitter end. Long after they sent grandma off to the rendering plant or old folks home due to lack of money. They'll forgo dental work for themselves or music lessons for the kids just to buy hay for the horse.
And the horse isn't worth anything. Around here you can hardly give one away. So they hook you in by leasing you the horse. $100/year plus hay and boarding.
I really, really don't understand horses.
Maybe I've offended some people here.
Not my intention to offend. So maybe if you are tempted to go off on me and tell me how ignorant I am maybe cool down for a few minutes first and try to tell me what good a horse is in this day and age.
Oh, and if you're tempted to say like the Harley people do: "If I had to explain it you, you wouldn't understand" spare me that because I probably would understand if you took the time to explain it.
Thanks in advance for enlightening me.
 
Well.........I'm sure there are different reasons for different horse owners. We have horses because my wife loves 'em! Well she loves all animals but has had her first horse since she was 16, still has her and would never part with her. We have our second horse because horses don't like being alone. We had a third one but we sold her when my wife became pregnant. We could not justify a third horse at the time being. Both of ours are for riding although this past year nobody has ridden because of the pregnancy. She enjoys riding and working with them. It's her hobby and really they are not all that much work. I have other hobbies that I enjoy and she has her horse hobby.
 
I don"t get "Pets" in general. I could understand if a particular animal facinates someone, or if it provides a service like a hunting dog or service animal. I don"t get people who treats their animal like their "children", that"s just weird to me. I like hanging out with people, not animals. But don"t get rid of your pet because of me, just don"t expect me to appreciate it when your animal wants to climb all over me or lick me. I don"t hate animals, I just don"t want to be tied down to one, and I especially don"t appreciate it when others let theirs roam around on my property. Just my 2 cents.
 

"you wouldn't understand" is prolly the best thing to tell you...we have 16 on the place now (including babies) and they are absolutely worthless..... Wouldn't trade them for anything in the world tho. Babies bring a nice price that pays for the hobby and lets us induldge a little now and then. We have to trim back a couple of the adults and it ain't easy after they grow on you. They can be expensive if you let them. Some folks are real freaks when it comes to horses and makes it hard o normal folks. Big thing in this area at the moment is a shortage on the hay crop and these freaks with 1 or two horses wanting to impress folks by peeling off 60 or 80 bucks for a roll f hay then jumping on a forum and bragging about it...... It's not the animal that is the problem just the fools that own them.
Wife went to classes for 2 years of a lot of weekends and evenings to learn homeopathic treatment whick pays off real well. 've never had a sick animal with the way we keep them. Couple of injuries, sore feet, 2 colics, and a choke in 11 years. She handled everything except the choke herself (with my help). Vet will come castrate 2 and file a couple teeth this fall. I do my own trimming mostly butthe farrier shows up when needed and charges about 12 bucks a horse. Couldn't afford what we are doing if we were in the states I guess.....

Dave
 
You can say all those things about women too, but some of you keep'em around. I grew up with working horses that we used every day. If you've never had a good horse (I know, I know, ain't no good horses) I just don't think you COULD understand their worth. But they are very usefull in a ranching operation, not to mention great companions, and O ya, even though they share a lot of traits with women, they don't talk.
 
No offense taken. It's a hobby (and business for some). Just curious if you have any hobbies. Also, lots of people ride competitively and make a living out of something they enjoy. Others (like my wife and daughters) use it to relieve stress, get exercise and stay in shape. Beats paying fees at a gym and running on a treadmill IMO.

Personally, I like to just get on a horse and ride through the fields/trails. Very relaxing and soothing to the soul. If you're strictly looking at the "cost" factor, yeah, it's expensive. But do you golf? My BIL spends thousands of dollars on clubs, greens fees, trips to resorts, etc. All to play a sport that he's not very good at. What about those that restore classic cars (or tractors) where the investment will never pay off? I know a couple of people who have lots of money in the bank because they never DO ANYTHING! They sit in their condo in front of a TV all day long, 7 days a week. All they can talk about is their bank accounts. That is NOT the way I want to live.

Although I did chuckle at your comment on special clothes like the Harley people. Trust me, proper equestrian show clothes cost a lot and that's one aspect that I try to minimize for my family (Me to my daughter: "Do you really need another $400 hunt coat?" and no, we didn't get it).

If all you look at is the dollars and cents, it may be hard to justify, but that is true of a lot of hobbies out there.
 
We"ve got 25 of them, Yes they are expensive, but we don"t drink or smoke, so we have to spend our money somewhere, The Farm and the Horses are the only things that keep us sane, can"t stand the city, hate to even drive in to work. I don"t get people that insist on living within a few miles of work, to me, the further away the better. Heck, I don"t really even know my neighbors around the farm, and I like it that way, it prevents them from thinking they can come over and borrow things... In reality, my wife and I both are alot like Dave2....
 
Well its kind of hard to explain,Im sort of like you in that i dont understand why people buy a couple of acres and imediatly have to buy a horse.quite honestly i could show you horses that are 6-7 years old that have never had one minutes work done with them,that have done nothing but moved from one "farm" to another.someone will feed them until they simply cant afford to anymore and then it moves on!want to make some money? setup selling pretty(notice i said said pretty not good) horses near a place where they have houses on 2-5 acre lots,you can sell them over and over,sell for high ,buy it back for low,and sell it again often to the same person!But I have to admit I'm guilty ,i kept them most of my life.I guess,its like a fishing boat,you can fish just fine off the bank, but you buy a jon boat,but that too noisy,so you need a v-hull,but thats too slow so to go faster you need a bass boat.but then you can go out to where the really big boats are and then to fit in you need a bigger boat with all the goodies,then you wake up one day and realize you have a $250,000 boat in front of a $50,000 house,you cant use it because gas is too high,and to top it all you aint been fishing in 20 years!looks good in the yard but your worse off than when you started! horses are like boats,some folks get ahead with them.mostly the guys SELLING!
 
I understand. I cant for the life of me figure out how anyone would want a horse, or any animal that is large to keep for a pet.

I dont like dogs, puppies are cute. But I wont have a dog, has to be let out to go wee-wee and take a dump, feed it, messes up the rug, wrecks the hardwood floors.
I have an adorable house cat, (not an outside cat) super loveable, playful. Some people cant stand cats. (Well I cant stand barking dogs) I could never own a horse.
 
Owned horses for a long time, probably 30 years or more; they were working horses.......for our cattle. I've ridden 'em, roped off of 'em, been throwed, fallen off, been drug off, had 'em fall down with me........you name it. When I was a teenager, neither I nor any of my friends had cars, but we all had horses. On Sunday afternoons, we rode 'em to where ever we were getting together, usually to play whatever 'ball' was in season. At some point......in the mid/late '70s, we bought our first grinder mixer and started to feed some calves, rather than selling them 'off their mamas'. Didn't take long to figure out that one man with a Jeep or 4-wheeler, a small trailer and a couple buckets of feed was better than a half-dozen men on horseback. You ABSOLUTELY couldn't GIVE me a horse.
 
Anybody remember Will Rogers? He said "there"s something about the outside of a horse that"s good for the inside of a man."

I can personally attest to that. There have been many times when I came home from work frazzed, grumpy and not fit company. Then went to the barn, saddled my horse and went for a ride. I would come back chilled out and pleasant to be around.

I have a partnership with my horses. We work/ride/play together. They are my pals. As with many horse owners, my horses are part of the family as much as the dogs & cats.

Yes, horses are expensive, but think how much money we"re pumping into the economy and just about everyone has a hobby or recreation they spend money on. Look at how much a bass boat or Harley costs. I personally think its ridiculous to pay huge bucks for a boat, but a boat owner may think its ridiculous to spend $25,000 for a horse trailer with living quarters. At least with animals you can build a relationship. Boats and bikes don"t get happy or excited when you show up.

We all need time away from our "jobs" to relax and do something we enjoy and we spend money to accomplish that.
 
For us, its the show world, hunter/jumper horses, to be honest I don't know how it exists, because the only ones who can really afford it have to be really well off, literally have money to burn. There are some odd people within the confines of this echelon of equine competition, as I have seen over the years.

It can be insanity to have 30-40 of them, when money is tight and things go wrong, one has to ask ones self why anyone would want to get that far involved. Darned help is always fun, cause your budget does not allow anything but low wages, and you get what you pay for with help for the most part.

The profits are narrow, boarding, lessons, and all the rest is hard work, the only time any money is to be made is after putting 5 years into one, and make a sale, all the while hoping no injuries and or health issues arise prior to, then the economy tanks, no one buying, they're all selling! Makes no business sense at all. Then you get one of these prospects that colics, the trailer is snowed in, tires low on air, truck has a 200,000 miles on it, trans is mis-shifting, and you have 150 miles in either direction to get to Cornell or the other place in Rhinebeck to save the beast, you need to be there yesterday it's 0 degrees F out, you are walking and fighting with a 1429lb animal to keep him up and get him loaded, hope he does not go down in the trailer, and you can't imagine the pain he's in. This can happen anytime, with the best of care, some of them get too big and have a little extra room in there, when they roll cause they ain't been out enough, things get jumbled up in there ! Makes for a long day when you had other plans, like the wood stove and ones recliner !!!! not to mention the thousands of dollars this will cost, and the risk of losing even more if he keels over, and he's your best one !

You have the polo crowd, they're just loaded though.

Then you have the reasonable, 2 horse owner, whom rides and enjoys them often, still costly, can't leave the place unless someone can cover what you do, but at least its a hobby that your job covers, lot of people getting out of this hobby at that level. Lots of these situations around, they do buy a fair amount of hay too. Most of those places are smaller, neatly kept and manageable.

Personally, I would agree, I like to seem them have a job or a purpose, where they are useful, like ranching or other similar work. To have them just to have them makes no sense at all.

Ideally most of ours, are ridden daily, but there are stretches where no rider is available, especially in the winter, though we have a huge indoor arena. Turn outs sometimes are just that arena, snowed in, iced up road to the fields or snow too deep for em like last year, I had to snow blow the pastures for em to get em out on sunny days.

You have the race crowd, breeding farms, sales etc, they are hurting around here.

It has its ups and downs, though I think most are nuts that have em, including us LOL !!!
 
I'm not a horse person just because I don't know much about em. Sure I can ride a gental horse but that's about it. I do know a lot of people who have em. Most wouldn't part with em. Have to admire how pretty they can be but with 5 beef cows, 10 pigs and 2 dozen chickens can't see making any money with a horse and don't have enough livestock to need one for work. Do have a lazy farm dog or 2 and a few barn cats. They keep both the little and big critters away.

The ways and hows don't concern me, I worry about more important things like my family and friends.

Rick
 
But jerry, it lets you buy a backhoe to use on the farm after you save the cost of the vet bill for putting it down, multi-tasking.
 
It's kind of the same with antique tractors. First a person has to have one, then they want one that few people have, so the can show that one off. Then they need a high dollar pickup and trailer to haul them to where people can see them. Then the carb has dried out so they take it to the vet, I mean shop to get it fixed, and then a battery is shot, so off to the store, etc. You could about say the same for most hobbies. Just what people want to do. To be honest, what I hate to see is 10 horses in a small lot. Most of the time there is a large round bale of hay, and plenty of feed given to them, but no grazing, no exercise, cover, you get the drift. Hobbies are hobbies I guess. Bob
 
I don't "get" 'em, either, but my wife sure does, so that's why we've had them for 40 years. She loves (and lives) to ride.

Nancy Howell summed it up best- saved me a bunch o' typing. Not many hobbies "pencil out".

For my part, I'm a little restentful that we dumped so much money into them over the years, at the expense of our future retirement. But what's done is done.
 
Yeah, I don"t understand the high class horse people either.

Always a new, big trailer, high end, under used horses. The whole bit.

I sell a fair amount of hay and they are the ones that will bounce a check. lol

Most around here are like us, and enjoy them.
We have 5, and all of them can be saddled up and rode. No pasture statues allowed. I"m not into breeding or shows. From time to time we do some team sorting or penning for fun.

I have three kids, they all have their own horse that they are responsible for, and they do good with them. I feel it teaches them some good responsiblity.

I like coming home from work and looking across the field at two of them out riding and one in the yard unsaddling and brushing a horse out, checking hooves, or whatever. It makes me smile. Beats having them in the house playing video games. Also we ride a fair amount as a family, best way I"ve found to have teenage kids open up and talk, is on the back of a horse.

I guess horses tie in well with us, are they neccissary? No, but really only air, water, and alittle food is.

Economy wise, the horse industry holds its own. It"s been around a long time. The problem isnt the horses. Its some of the people. Horses didnt cripple the kill market in the US, activists did.

There were some folks around here that made a decent living buying and selling kill horses. It might be a touchy topic, but reality is, it kept things in check.

There are those that can still make some money on horses, but it takes time and know how. The people that raise them, put in time with them, train them can still come out. Fact is doing that is alot of work. Most, myself included, dont want to put that much time into them. So, I just call it a hobby.
 
Without horses many of us would have less customers. Think about it: how many people here sell hay, oats, straw to horse owners? How many keep boarding horses? Trailer a couple horses from A to B every so often?

Horses help many of us pay the bills! So next time you decide to knock on someone for owning a horse, flashing their $50,000 hay burner, or driving a 1 ton horse hauler, just remember they've likely supported a local farmer (directly or indirectly) more so than most other groups of people.
 
have used working horses on ranches, try finding lost cattle in canyons or creek beds on a four wheeler. a good cutting horse can help you separate cattle in a pen. Friend of mine has a mule he takes Elk Hunting every year, plus he takes "jocko" hog hunting up and down the river any chance he gets. mule gets to places you and I couldn't.
 
I'm not one of those you mentioned that indulges myself in fancy horses with fancy truck/trailer, etc. But I do like horses, cattle, and dogs more than I like some people. Having that said, I have a hobby farm where three horses reside. They don't do anything but eat and crap but I like them because they are obedient, tame, gentle, not destructive, and are like big dogs.

In reality horse overpopulation is a problem because of "idiots" that made it illegal to slaughter them any longer. You can thank T. Boone Picken's wife for that.

The problem with "rescue" horses is the irresponsible people that owed them before they became "rescue" horses because they had no business ever owing a horse. Or the irresponsible person that doesn't castrate the colts and then all of the sudden has too many horses they can't afford to take care of.

It is the owners ignorance that is the problem....
 
I fall into this category as well. Wife and daughters really love the horses. For me it is an excuse to have a little acreage and a tractor so I can justify coming to this forum and seeing what is going on in the world.

Kirk
 
What a great board.
Yeah I guess I do "get it" as I have a little dog here that means a lot to me.
I just never grew up around horses so I never think of one as a pet or your friend.
And I agree, there is no reason to have to justify your hobby to others. If you like to do it and can afford it well then what business is it to others.
I also never thought about people actually making money off of horses. But i see that some of you do.
Like my tractors which is getting to be a break even proposition - dabbling in parts or selling a couple tractors a year i can see that an experienced horse person could probably make enough to keep a couple of their own.
Mostly I just see a lot of lonely horses in a small space that he's eaten down to the ground. I seem to see a hundred horses loafing in a corrall for every one that I see getting ridden.
That's what makes you wonder why people have them.
Thanks to all who replied. All of you actually tried to explain it with out being sarcastic.
Collectively you did explain it pretty well.
I guess I'll try to start seeing that horse as someone's pal and maybe even their shrink.
I'm grateful to you all.
 
Well I've never been a horse person and never will, but I do have an unvarying opinion of horse owners. There are pleasure horses owned by common everyday salt-of -the-earth folks and then there are show horses. Pleasure show horses belong to showy people who buy showy pickups, trailers, saddles and tack. The attention on what is being shown seems to drift away from the horse and starts to center on the owner. Draft horse owners who show in competition seem to be a different breed of people when compared to show pleasure horse folks.

I went to a draft horse show one time and it really opened my eyes. They have many multi thousands of dollars in shiny show harness for four or six horses and the fancy wagon they pull. But the many thousands spent is more for the horses, not the owner. They need a semi to haul the horses, wagon and what have you and that adds up to even more. But the owners seem to have their attention centered more on the horses and equipment. These people either have to be sponsored or they have access to grandpa's inheritance. There's no way the common wage earner can come close to competing.Jim
 
"Mostly I just see a lot of lonely horses in a small space that he's eaten down to the ground. I seem to see a hundred horses loafing in a corrall for every one that I see getting ridden."

Your observation is correct. Irresponsibility of a person whom doesn't know the proper husbandry of horses or any livestock for that matter.

See you do have a warm heart for the critter ;)
 
There are lots and lots of horse owners and much fewer horse people. And even fewer than that are GOOD horse people! Good horse people are the ones who take the time to get THEMSELVES trained, not just the horse. They realize that respect is a two way street especially with animals. I admit I do not know enough to call myself a good horse person, my wife on the other hand was very well trained before she ever owned a horse.
We have horses for our pleasure, not to show off to anyone. In fact neither of ours are registered and we do not show.

Oh, one more positive toward horses, if we didn't have any it would be less likely that I would own a tractor.
 
Most of the horse as pets owners are sort of mistreating the horses. Humane Society has 3 in custody now from a complaint of mistreatment-- but the horses were down by the politicians at capitol so might have been considered demonstrators. X girlfriend wanted horse, nagged me enough to get her a Arab colt and said she would take care of it. Unfortunately 'grass' to her meant smoking material for her instead of lunch for horse. Horse ended up on farm with another one, close to some Amish so didn't get lonely. Which brings up one of the few groups that actually use the horse for what it has been bred for-and they aren't sentimental about disposal of sick critters. I grew up with a team of draft horses that were used for mowing and wagon pulling until second tractor on farm, then they were semi-retired, equipment tongues shortened and when one died the other went to glue factory. Blown motor tractor with iffy transmission went to scrap yard when it was time also. Horses may come in handy if gas gets over $5.00 gallon in areas with pasture most of year. Norwegians have horsemeat and fruit soup recipes in cookbook. Horseroasts have been known to occur- the advertising is discrete. And has been noted some people figure 4 horses-one a pale horse- might be needed soon. (Teasing Alert! still active) RN
 
When I was young my sisters had a couple of riding horses that ran free with the cows. When it was chore time and I went to the pasture to bring the cows home the younger stupid horse would get in front of the gate and block it so it was hard to get the cows thru. It also chased them away from the hay feeders. It had a cocky attitude and I've never liked horses since.
 
We fit your description in some areas such as horses, camper/trailer, pickup although none of those are the high dollar ones. We camp and trail ride as our "get away" and all I can say is there is a bunch of stress relief when we are deep in a forest sitting by a waterfall having a lunch that we pulled out of our saddle bags after riding for awhile to get there. Also, sitting around the campfire at night is good therapy. I don't get in to the "cowboy look" I just ride in my work farm clothes. That's why we do it. It's our get away time.
 
......... Oh, one more positive toward horses, if we didn't have any it would be less likely that I would own a tractor.
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:lol: Absolutely right. My wife and kids worked on me for 10 yrs to buy a horse. (We had been "leasing" them for the kids to ride up until then). One of the conditions was that we would build a retirement home on some acreage so that we wouldn't have to pay for board. I've got the acreage and tractors that I'm prepping for retirement in a few years and get just as much enjoyment from working on them as I do riding the horse. Like you, I would have no reason to own a tractor if I didn't own a horse. I'm NEVER at a loss for something to do, learn something new just about every day (including from these forums) and I don't have to go to a gym for exercise to keep my weight down and stay fit. People groan when asking what I've got planned for a weekend and I list brush-hogging, tractor maintenance, implement repair, ditch digging, fence fixing, etc. Just hope I've got the financial means to keep it up when I DO retire. Our plans (like everyone else's) have taken quite a hit in the last couple of years.
 
I hauled off a load of trash this morn'n and on the way to town I seen a painted plywood sign nailed to a light pole that read "7YO Gelding For Sale. $125 or BEST OFFER." I was go'n to write the number down on the way back but there was a car behind me so I didn't want to slow down too many times. (no trailer lights) If I am up that way again before this great deal is gone I will get the number and post it on here.

Dave
 
Once upon a time I had horse and a donkey, enjoyed them while I had them but was glad to see them go down the driveway with a new owner.

Some people like to sit in front of the TV and watch criminal athletes play foot or basket ball or chase a little round ball around a field hitting it with a club. Some people even spend thousands of dollars going to something called tournaments or Bowl games.

Nearby is an overcrowded lake with way too many boats carrying too many people all having a good time.

We have a local tractor club where people congregate with their trailer Queens. They too claim to have a good time.

The point is, it would be a boring world if everyone were just alike, so learn to live and let others do the same. Different strokes for different folks. Joe
 
some people get it, others don't. To each his own...don't knock it til you've tried it.
"There is nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse" Winston Churchill

And finally...some losers own boats instead of horses!
 

besides...kids and women love 'em
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This is the larges of my three mares. I have three males one of which is the same size as this mare. The other two are only slightly larger. They give me a great deal of pleasure. All six call out to me. The small stud calls out to me every time I drive up the the garage and get out of the truck. I say hi to him and he calls right back. They start and end my work day. To me they are worth more in pleasure than the cost of keeping them.

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I don't have any expensive horses, trailers, clothes etc. I also don't have any 4 wheelers, motorcycles, big screen TV's, high dollar computers, Blackberrys, vacations, etc. I have 5 draft horses I use on the farm and 2 riding horses we use like most folks use an ATV. I don't have to license them, they don't require anything I don't raise, they are friendly, willing workers and a heck of a lot of fun.

I don't get why so many people feel they have the right bad mouth something they don't understand and say it's expensive. My most expensive tractor cost me $2500.00. All my horses together didn't cost me that much. I'm driving a $500.00 pickup and still mowing the lawn with a 1967 Allis B-10. My farm and it's 342 acres cost me $75K. So I guess I'm not exactly a spendthrift. I don't drink, smoke, or go out to dinner very much. I don't do porn, sports or buy Lottery tickets either. So what business is it of anyone else's if I like horses?
 
i have antique tractors that i show and pull yes an expensive hobby that i need a truck and trailer for my wife has horses the tractors are a way for me to relax and enjoy life same goes for her with the horses of course we make both hobbies a family thing so my kids arent sitting in front of a tv or video game yes in the end a tractor has more monetary value but the sentimental value is the same for each creates lots of good memories so hopefully my kids will have great memories of our family
 
That reminds me of an add in the local clasified paper a few weeks ago.

"2009 HD Sportster, 1600 miles, lots of crome, great bike to pick up girls on, I picked up one and had a baby, must sell, 8,500 obo."

I about fell out of my chair at work laugh'n at that.

Dave
 
DickL,
Wife and Dotter loved the minatures!

I was wondering what model Oliver you had?

Different "horses" for the same family - I guess.
 
How are you with Human beings then, enough cocky b..tards out there to give you nightmares { not a dark horse] one bad apple and you hate the orchard.
 
60's, 70', 66's, 77's, 88, 1650, 1850's but the front of the tractor in the picture is an Oliver 1650.
 
based on the mottled mouth...is that an appaloosa?
If teenage guys were smart, they'd work in horse farms...'cuz that's where all the teenage girls are! Happiest guy i know is my farrier- says he spends all day around fit women!
 
(quoted from post at 07:52:13 08/18/11) based on the mottled mouth...is that an appaloosa?
If teenage guys were smart, they'd work in horse farms...'cuz that's where all the teenage girls are! Happiest guy i know is my farrier- says he spends all day around fit women!
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I had to laugh when I read this. Agree 100% Jose. I've been telling people for years that if I was a teenage boy again, I know where I'd be hanging out: a horse barn! I recently was showing around a family who was considering having their young daughter take hunter/jumper lessons at the barn where we keep our horse. They had their teenage son with them and I could see his neck swiveling when the young girls in their riding breeches and tank tops walked by with their horses.

The other advice I would give a young man dating a girl who rides horses is that they've got strong legs (the girls, I mean) and if you've ever seen them kick a horse who's misbehaving, you'll know what you're in for if you mess with them. :lol:
 
Should I get rid of my horses,... just to make someone who doesn't like'em, feel better?

Should I waste the rest of my day away,... worrying that I might own "something" else, that someone, somewhere, might consider a waste of time and/or money?

For those of you (who DON'T like horses),... please post a list of the "things" that you DO like, so I'll know what to own in order for you to be happy!

How am I doing with my "people skills" Dave? LOL
 
(quoted from post at 06:47:02 08/18/11) Should I get rid of my horses,... just to make someone who doesn't like'em, feel better?

Should I waste the rest of my day away,... worrying that I might own "something" else, that someone, somewhere, might consider a waste of time and/or money?

For those of you (who DON'T like horses),... please post a list of the "things" that you DO like, so I'll know what to own in order for you to be happy!

How am I doing with my "people skills" Dave? LOL
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We need to work a little on 'em..but they are repairable.....
 
How lame is it for a person to pay to walk around a mowed field with a bag full of expensive clubs with shoes that would cause them to slip off a wagon it they were bailing and loading hay. What a waste of time and money.

Then drive hundreds of miles to set in hard bleachers in the hot sun or freezing cold to watch a very short section/area of some game or auto race after spending large sums of money for tickets.

I love to work with my horses.
 
(quoted from post at 07:20:57 08/18/11) How lame is it for a person to pay to walk around a mowed field with a bag full of expensive clubs with shoes that would cause them to slip off a wagon it they were bailing and loading hay. What a waste of time and money.

Then drive hundreds of miles to set in hard bleachers in the hot sun or freezing cold to watch a very short section/area of some game or auto race after spending large sums of money for tickets.

I love to work with my horses.
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just had a lady go by the place driving a beautiful carriage pulled by a big black Fresian with another following behind along with a little small puncture wound about the size of your kids that was clearly the boss of the group. Another old guy had 2 haflingers that he switched back and forth the same way to drive around. One was 32 years old and he had to put it down and was given a 6ft tall Hannoveraner for company.... That is a site to see coming down the road....
 
(quoted from post at 04:52:13 08/18/11) based on the mottled mouth...is that an appaloosa?
If teenage guys were smart, they'd work in horse farms...'cuz that's where all the teenage girls are! Happiest guy i know is my farrier- says he spends all day around fit women!
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othing worse than a horse loving woman :shock:
The man always comes last ,if at all.
 
well ultra dog ,you beginning to get it now?LOL! its really funny how you can stir folks up with a subject like this,,Ive probably been more miles horseback than any five here,i raised them and kept them for well over sixty years.I have absolutely no problem with any one who USES a horse,for any reason whatsoever.wheather to round up cattle or pick up girls,i do have a problem with seeing a horse standing in a bare dirt field with no one to tend to it,which i think is the original point of this.and i think all agree on that,but unfortunately as the economy goes so does the horse industry the last several years.without the outlet to get rid of these extra horses any more,its getting worse all the time.folks buy them,put them out on a small ranchette( I hate that term) find out they dont have the time or resources keep one properly.and the horse suffers.better to put the poor thing down in my opinion.I wont own another,not because i dont like them,but because i cant use one anymore.if i got to feed something, to make me feel better,I'll write a check to an orphanage.
 
Pic is a few years back.
I'm pretty sure I was grinning ear to ear when I took this.
Do to the economy and me switching jobs we have scaled back but the understanding of horsemanship will be with them forever.
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Sorry man.
I'll try to ask my questions in the future so they don't offend anyone
Wouldn't want to ask someone to explain what it is about a thing that draws people to it.
Might get under their skin just for asking.
Maybe I'll just ask about milk toast, cute puppies and if people like how I got my hair cut.
Oh wait, some people are lactose intolerant. And Moslems don't like dogs. And then there's folks who are bald who might be jealous.
Oh well. It's a real nice day here. Bluebird sky, 80° and a real light breeze.
 
Why do some people buy a boat, camper, or, an antique tractor?

Wait,... let me clarify my question (by using the Ultradog method) below!

I don't get "toys".
What good is a boat, camper, or an antique tractor in this day and age.
They are expensive, sit around a LOT, require expensive repairs.
Why do people make such a big deal out of owning these things? Are they a status synmbol?
It seems everybody has to get their minimum 5 acre plot so they can have a place to store such "toys". They put up fancy sheds and buy a lot of extra stuff so they can play with their "toys" once, or, twice during the summer.
Then they got to buy a big expensive 1 ton truck and a trailer so they can take their tractor to a couple of shows each year. Then add another "truck" just to pull their huge fancy camping trailer to the show, and now it takes a small "fleet of trucks" just to show off these toys.
If I had one of those mini farms I would have a pig or two or maybe a horse. They don't cost much more to feed and you can ride the horse without worrying about the price of gas. Tractors, boats, and campers, just loaf around for 20 plus years and then get sold for a fraction of the dollars invested in them.
What is the deal about such expensive "toys"?
Do we have to keep a few "toys" around so we can "keep up with the Jones"?
And lately since the economy has slid under there are more and more people losing their mini farms yet they will keep their "toys" till the bitter end. Long after they sent grandma off to the rendering plant or old folks home due to lack of money. They'll forgo dental work for themselves or music lessons for the kids just to buy gas for their "toys".
And the toys aren't worth anything. Around here you can hardly give one away because of the huge expense involved with owning them (insurance, storage, upkeep and/or other repairs).
I really, really don't understand "toys".
Maybe I've offended some people here.
Not my intention to offend. So maybe if you are tempted to go off on me and tell me how ignorant I am maybe cool down for a few minutes first and try to tell me what good a "toy" is in this day and age.
Oh, and if you're tempted to say like the Harley people do: "If I had to explain it you, you wouldn't understand" spare me that because I probably would understand if you took the time to explain it.
Thanks in advance for enlightening me.

If anyone gets offended by this post,... we can talk about 80 degree weather, milking cats, pedicures, or sumpthin else equally interesting.
Have a good day!
 
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