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who engineers this stuff????

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super morning slid into a sucky afternoon........... 4 inch long radiator hose and about 6 inches of room (1 inch between the two tubes) Gotta take half the tractor apart just to get within squeezing, hooking, and forcing range........ Got fed up and went to work on something else. Will get a fresh start in the morning. Getting closer and closer to replacing this thing..... Great when it works but I spend so much time working on my impeckable people skills, that I loose patience easy...
 
Bend the hose double,place both ends on pipes then bump the middle of hose, it should slide right on. Might lube the pipe end first. LOL
 
Shorten your hose by an inch. Once it"s clamped on, it can"t slide off; I"ve done this on Ford automobiles with the 90 degree elbow at the waterpump.
 
happens to me whenever I remark on how good of a day I'm having. I feel your pain. but ya gotta take the good with the bad. german engineering--why the tiger tank wasn't as big of a player as it could have been--too many man-hours to work on.
 
Anytime you got a vehicle that folks keep shooting cannons at, it's probably gonna take a good deal of maintenance. But what you said is valid. the other problem the Germans had was that our bombing campaigns against their manufacturing facilities were more effective than their bombing campaigns against ours and Russia's manufacturing facilities, so they were simply outnumbered.
 
I have said it for decades and still believe it. Engineers should engineer for 2 years then go out and work on what they engineered for another 2 and I bet they would change the way they did things
 
my grandpa always used to say that he believed GM and Ford paid guys on the production line to sharphen all the edges in the engine compartment...usually because he would bleed everytime he opened the hood. I agree engineers should have to work on what they design--have you ever changed plugs in a newer ford=nightmare.
 
There are errors enough via engineers. The real
source of grief however. Are the accountants that
cut up front costs at the expense of everything
else.
 
Ooohhh Please dont scare me! I just picked up a JD 3055 service manual from Deere today. Paid $160 for that thing. Dont think I cant afford a phsychiatrist to go with it! Tractor built in Germany, engine in France, starter in Mexico... Thats scarry enough!!!
 
I asked a GM engineer about this and he said that the designs for autos are backwards, i.e., he said that a commitee of designers decides what a vehicle should look like and then tell the engineers how big of power train and such and they have to fit all of it in a certain body style so that is why you end up with a mess.
 
Try making a hose removal tool, it also works in reverse, to install them. start with a straight long shank screwdriver, and bend, till it looks like this, or something similar, that clears all of your particular obstructions.
hose remover/installer
 
(quoted from post at 15:53:58 08/11/11) Ooohhh Please dont scare me! I just picked up a JD 3055 service manual from Deere today. Paid $160 for that thing. Dont think I cant afford a phsychiatrist to go with it! Tractor built in Germany, engine in France, starter in Mexico... Thats scarry enough!!!
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Gotta be real careful...That engine'll start running backwards on you without warning :shock:
 
(quoted from post at 20:15:58 08/11/11) Try making a hose removal tool, it also works in reverse, to install them. start with a straight long shank screwdriver, and bend, till it looks like this, or something similar, that clears all of your particular obstructions.
hose remover/installer
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Got one from the neighbor yesterday evening and will be on it in a few. Hope it works. Rest of the tractor can be disassembled with a crescent wrench....Just that hose with no room to get to anything.
 
(quoted from post at 22:16:55 08/11/11)
(quoted from post at 20:15:58 08/11/11) Try making a hose removal tool, it also works in reverse, to install them. start with a straight long shank screwdriver, and bend, till it looks like this, or something similar, that clears all of your particular obstructions.
hose remover/installer
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Got one from the neighbor yesterday evening and will be on it in a few. Hope it works. Rest of the tractor can be disassembled with a crescent wrench....Just that hose with no room to get to anything.
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That was the ticket............. and a long prybar to slip the hose where it belonged after te end started. Good now. Changed a headgasket on the tractor faster than this little hose.
 
dave2 I will confess I am an engineer and I get so frustrated trying to tell people that the designs they have will be impossible to install or work on. I guess growing up on a farm and always working on equipment I try to find the best and quickest way to get something repaired. As it has been said here previously sometimes it is the accounting that hamstrings the engineers to be able to get everything that is need for a assembly to work the way it should. That being said there are a number of engineers that also do not have any kind of experience in actually hands on knowledge. If it works on the computer screen it must work in real life.....
 
Ford service manual says to pull the engine to get the oil pan off a '97 F-350 W/ Power Stroke. Have engine lifted off the frame, but needs another 4" to clear the ring gear. I hope removing the turbo will be enough...
 
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