OT; DEER SEASON; FOOD PLOTS

Question:

What is the difference between a deer food plot, and putting out food by hand;
For the deer, Or using mineral/salt blocks.
DNR tells us that hand feeding deer food and or mineral/salt blocks is illegal
The QUESTION is why is it illegal: The answer is: it is called BAITING.
But yet we can put in food plots and bring the deer in to our shooting area;
The DNR say that hand feeding deer can cause a out break of CWD CHRONIC WASTE DECEASE :
Question:
How is that? ANSWER: because the food we put out could be spoiled and the deer lick the mineral/salt blocks and the saliva that they generate is left on the blocks that can cause CWD They also said if you do feed STOP FEEDING and bring in your Mineral/salt blocks 1 week before deer season. MMMMMM Unless you have live stock running in that area. GUYS am I missing something here? MMMMM

what is your thoughts on this;

MANY THANKS

JR FRYE

I think anyone that puts out or plants feed then hunts within gunshot distance of the area is a pisspoor sportsman and should have somone taking potshots at them while they are at the dinner table........

The CWD is not spread by spoiled food but by the transmission an infected deer to another. That transmission is through the saliva left on a food source of the infected deer and later consumed by the next deer to eat from the food source.

If you do bait, spread it out, don't pile it up.

If you want to add minerals to your deer heard, pour it into the ground rather than a block. Deer will chew the clay to get the resources but most hunters I know don't use a mineral site to hunt over considering most deer are finished with the mineral licks around the end of September.

Folks that only feed up though the fall and stop as soon as the deer season is over are causing stress to the herd. Deer need time for their metabolism to change going into the winter months. If you are going to supplemental feed, keep it going through the winter months when they need it most.

Baiting sells liscenses!!! $$$$$$ Plain and simple! I agree with Dave2. Here in MI they are allowing baiting (again) and yet give out permits for farmers and/or property owners to take many deer at many times throughout the year because there are so many they are causing crop dammage. It brings out the "shooters" as apposed to "hunters"! The idiots you don't want in the woods with a weapon in the first place.

Come on Dave,
To continue your analogy with animals in general would we also butcher people when they were simply hanging out Maybe watching the baseball game? Just like selecting cattle from a feed lot to go to market?
Maybe spay/neuter those who we think may have inferior genes or to make them more docile like we do horses, bulls, cats and dogs?
Would we install giant mouse traps to catch those who may possibly steal our cheese?
Lets not let anthropomorphism go too far here. That's how PETA and the Vegan crowd has made such strides in giving animals Rights by apealing to people's emotion and not to their reason.

It all comes down to who gets to define the word 'sportsmanship'. I get the hunch over the last 20-30 years, there are so many deer across all of north America, the wildlife agencies give away the store to get rid of the problem....

People skills....... I do not believe DEC in NY allows food plots but people plant them, bait them and who knows what, and I think that takes a lot of the skill, effort, knowledge etc. required to be a successful hunter, that and the fact that deer populations are certainly doing well.

I think a real hunt is where you go to remote locations where they are not so concentrated/domesticated, and you need all the above to be successful.

That said, I plant things for them, figuring that lush forage in the fall, will help them finish before harvest, and help them prepare for the winter months by fattening up. It does attract more deer, and my sitting in a stand like a sniper, is more of a harvest to me at least. The benefit is that a few are selected for harvest, the remaining herd has some additional forage (usually oats), we had a very harsh winter like in '02, which in that year there was a lot of winter kill judging by carcasses, this was not the case around here last year and I think the latter was worse than '02. They roam, head for the pines, but it takes until December for those oats to yellow out, yet they still feed off the base of the plant for a long while after.

(Edit)-"I think that takes a lot of the skill, effort, knowledge etc. required to be a successful hunter" (insert)- "out of the equation."

OK DAVE:
I am in a WHEEL CHAIR: I am a DISABLED VET, I enjoy my fishing and hunting just as much as you enjoy your horses. Is it right to take away my Freedom and the only
Spot that I have left. That I can do from a WHEEL CHAIR.
Also I do not hunt deer just to shoot them, I also process them I take my limit by the way my limit is 6 and if I do use all of my tags, I will give half of my deer meat to the food pantry for the needy. One more thing I am not a p---poor shot because I was a snippier in the US ARMY and I was also a Sniper Instructor in the US ARMY for
16 years.
So having said that I guess life is different where you live:
Have a GREAT DAY and remember, this DEER is the other white meat it can not be beet.

jimrd

jimrd I don't know where you live but you can hunt on my place anytime. Deer around here need to be thined out as they eat every thing in sight. I see two or three dead on the side of the road almost everyday. DH

I dont really have any opinion on this subject,but I can tell you a fact,the town of Bridgewater NJ ,near us here in nj had so many dear,they paid for sharpshooters to shoot them,it cost the taxpayers 85 dollars for each one they shot, They baited them, shot them, and got paid to do it,

good replys all,,but those naysayers overlook one important fact that they mention themselves.deer population across the nation is exploding ,ive hunted every season with very few exceptions since a season was opened in oklahoma.back in the early days you had bragging rights if you even SAW a deer!you could walk all day and never see a track literally.last year i rifle hunted exactly 1.5hrs shot a buck and a doe,and that includes time to move to and from stand,in ml season i hunted 45 minutes including travel time to and from,I didnt bow hunt last season at all.whats changed?food plots,feeders,salt or mineral licks help folks harvest deer yes.but the bigest threat to deer herds now is not overhunting,its overpopulation.theres only so much food out there,and deer are very quickly eating it up.deer in your front yard,along hiway,in the open in the middle of the day is not normal behavior,its a sure sign of things terribly wrong!best thing we can do for these herds is to kill as many as possible,any way possible.if food plots and things help to do this ,thank the lord for them.I also have seen deer die offs.in fact I found 5 dead carcasses on one piece of property of my own after last winter storms.none appeared to be shot,storms at most lasted a week, and deer should have been able to survive quite easily.but they were all young yearling does,all looked to have starved.this year i will take my limit of older does,all i can legally shoot on this place.if i can get permits i"ll shoot more thank you!

I travel through Bridgewater NJ,there is so many deer in that town it is unbelievable! I had to stop one day a line of deer were crossing the road like cattle,Ilooked to my left,a lady was throwing bread in her backyard,Icouldnt count all the deer that were in her back yard

Season ?? Around here anytime they come cloce to the gardens is fair game.

Yes, I remember seeing quite a bit of wildlife in NJ, deer in the basking ridge vicinity were impressive, on lawns but also on the sidewalks along with people! I used to do like you leave for home time off, most weekends, saw larger bucks in NJ then here ! I have not been to bridgewater commons in a long time, used to frequent there & somerville, also remember a big sitework company, Vollers, and a place to pick up concrete pipe near there.

I plant a 2 acre food plot each year, but I don't hunt over it. That would be unsportsmanship in my book. I hunt the woods between the bedding ground, and food plot.

(quoted from post at 15:52:52 07/20/11) OK DAVE:
I am in a WHEEL CHAIR: I am a DISABLED VET, I enjoy my fishing and hunting just as much as you enjoy your horses. Is it right to take away my Freedom and the only
Spot that I have left. That I can do from a WHEEL CHAIR.
Also I do not hunt deer just to shoot them, I also process them I take my limit by the way my limit is 6 and if I do use all of my tags, I will give half of my deer meat to the food pantry for the needy. One more thing I am not a p---poor shot because I was a snippier in the US ARMY and I was also a Sniper Instructor in the US ARMY for
16 years.
So having said that I guess life is different where you live:
Have a GREAT DAY and remember, this DEER is the other white meat it can not be beet.

jimrd

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Whatever makes you happy....... A cousin's husband was born with a stub just below the left elbow and a nub of the little finger and thumb of the other. He tought himself to anything that anyone else did. He could shoot just as good or better than some of us, could hammer a nail (made himself a little magnet to hold the nails with the stub....

Sorry about your disability and thanks for your service. But it still don't make it right.