Farmers Revenge

Billy Shafer

Well-known Member
Talked to a friend of mine yesterday. Seems his neighbor caught some folks backed into his barn. Got out his 12 guage and went in the other side of the barn. They got away with the stuff in the truck. But it cost them the back windshield,tailgate and both rear light assembly's blown out.

Hope what they got covers the cost of repairs.
 
Do that here in Canada and you're the one spending time in the pen :roll:
,the poor thief walks. :?
 
A few years ago, a neighbor of mine did that exact same thing when he caught 3 people stealing a battery out of one of his tractors.

When he got out of jail, he told me he wishes he'd have let 'em have the battery.

As much as we would like to just "fire away" in situations like that, stealing corn was NOT a threat to his life, therefor not quite enough reason in the eyes of the law to point a shotgun at someone in a truck and pull the trigger.

There are more intelligent ways to handle a thief than to put yourself in the position where you can be arrested.
 
Good for your neighbor. Hopefully the rotten ba*tards ended up having to pick a few pellets of birdshot out of their necks too.

God I'm glad we live in Texas where we have the right to not only defend outselves, but our property too!
 
Your friend might've been better off to tried and got a license plate # and a description of the vehicle and then called 911. I will agree, Tx law does say you can take "reasonable" action to protect life and property, but not so sure that includes taking wild shots at a fleeing vehicle.
 
They were not after corn. They were after scrap or at least there idea of what scrap is. He could have used the three S law on them. Besides who knows what weapons they may have had. Plus I have a feeling the three S law has been used a few times here in Texas. Big state with lots of land.
 
Id shoot first to disable their get away car and then Id call the sheriff to arrest them. And if the law sees fit to put me in jail too, I hope Im in the same cell as the thief.

The fact is, that most thieves will not rob a place that they believe they will get shot at. Mine is one of those places.
 
Let's see, they got away with the goods and he apparently has no description of the vehicle, yet he knows he took out the back window, tailgate and lights. Sounds thin to me. And if I'd shot out the back window of a fleeing vehicle, I don't think I'd share that information with my neighbors. At the very least that can get you charged with attempted murder. Even in the Republic of Texas.
 
bison, have you heard any latest on the central Alberta farmer
who ran down the quad thief.
 
I don't think the truck will be hard to find. He did not shoot anyone. He only shot the truck before they got in it. As I understand it.

I can't believe what I am seeing. Seems like people are defending the bad guys. I think we need more people like him around. Crimanals get off scott free to many times. There was a case several years ago in Forth Worth. Were a drunk hit a police officer and killed him. The drunk was then arrested for the 52 time for DWI. Only this time a little more was added.

People think I am cruel in my thinking. But if I work for the things I have. Then someone tries to steal them. Someone is going to get hurt. I think break the law once and take your punishment. Do it again and you go away for a long time. I have no use for people that steal or keep doing the things that got them in trouble in the first place.
 
Billy in TX they used to hang cattle/horse thieves and shoot tresspassers not a good state to mess up in.
 
I am on your side on this one. But I do agree with the advice that the defender of the property should keep silent.
I have a constant challenge on my hands with an idiot welfare druggy in the old farm house next door. Seems I have to take the effort, and spend the money to get a court order to stop him from blocking a right-of-way. Yet he can cross the property line and drive into my field(and crop) at will.
Law men are no help. I can't really blame them. The courts, judges, and laws tie their hands. Anyone thinking they can call the local law enforcement agency and it will help is sadly mistaken.
Everything in this country is getting turned inside out and upside down. I think we're screwed.
 
people are stealing like never before because of scrap prices, my nephew had and old forge at the end of the driveway,not any good but nice with flowers planted in it, It was there for at least two years,It looked nice,some creep took it this spring,probably scrapped it,
 
Good for him!! And for you folks that say call the police, apparently you've never tried. When the police showed up in an hour or so all they would do is take a report and tell you that you'll never see your stuff again because we're underbugdeted and can't investigate. Remember when seconds count, the police are just minutes away!
 
I've had pretty good support from our county cops. I call them every time something suspicious is going on, and I tell them up front that my goal is to make them as aggravated with these scoundrels as I am. I also always ask them if they would rather I handle the problem myself. They are always very co-operative. Pictures help too. They fill out their paperwork on my kitchen table, over a cup of coffee. If you fail to call the cops, how can they document the pattern of lawbreaking in your neighborhood?

So far we have solved a theft ring, a meth ring, and a nightrider problem.

You're right about "when seconds count. . ." when you live out here in the sticks.

Paul
 
Something doesn't jive with your story. Ya, stealing is bad but attempted murder is much worse. I can't think of anyone who would jump in a truck to get away after the back window was just shot out. If that's not enough to stop someone "dead" in their tracks, I don't know what is. If he was able to shoot the truck before they got in it, he should have been able to catch them before they got away. I guess that's why they don't allow hearsay in court. It's like one of those stories that gets told to a dozen people and then the story is completely different from the original story.
 
There's a BIG difference between your life being in jeopardy and your property being in jeopardy. You can't claim self defence if your life wasn't being threatened. There was no threat to anyone's life here except the thieves.
 
I agree with most. Around here if you did that they thief would walk, you would end up in jail, it would cost you about $5,000 in legal fees to clear up the mess.

It aint right, but that's they way it is.

We need to put the fear into crooks, get the laws changed, vote the pansy judges and prosecuters out of office, and dont count on the cops for anything!

Gene
 
I have a good front end loader that digs deep and am still a damn good shot. Sheriff has enough to do.
 
Well, sometimes it's kinda hard to tell just how far thieves are gonna go when they're caught in the act, so I guess I'd be probably be inclined to shoot first and then think about whether my life was threatened or not afterwards. Of course if you're a thief or sympathize with them I guess you'd think I'm merciless. Hmm...is stealing really okay sometimes???? How many murders are done by thieves and why do so many of them carry guns?
 
I'd have to say mine is, too. At least the neighbors are used to a bit of random gunfire around my place.

Then, too, I just rented the farm house to a Deputy Sheriff. He asked me if it was OK if he did some target shooting in back of my shop. I told him to have at it.
 
The police in my area are spread so thin it's a joke even reporting stolen items. But of course we do. I marked some items (radiators) and found them at the scrap yard, called cops and they pretty much told me they didn't have time to mess with me. Said they couldn't do anything because THEY hadn't seen anyone steal it. SO either build a donut shop on your property or look out for yourself.
 
(quoted from post at 14:06:10 07/17/11) Something doesn't jive with your story. Ya, stealing is bad but attempted murder is much worse. I can't think of anyone who would jump in a truck to get away after the back window was just shot out. If that's not enough to stop someone "dead" in their tracks, I don't know what is. If he was able to shoot the truck before they got in it, he should have been able to catch them before they got away. I guess that's why they don't allow hearsay in court. It's like one of those stories that gets told to a dozen people and then the story is completely different from the original story.

Dave, it helps to read the whole thread before you post your comments.

Apparently, he had quit shooting and was reloading. They then took the opportunity to jump in their truck and take off.
Makes perfect sense to me. :wink:
 
(quoted from post at 07:26:06 07/17/11) bison, have you heard any latest on the central Alberta farmer
who ran down the quad thief.
he story is new to me,..What happened??
 
(quoted from post at 15:01:03 07/17/11)
(quoted from post at 14:06:10 07/17/11) Something doesn't jive with your story. Ya, stealing is bad but attempted murder is much worse. I can't think of anyone who would jump in a truck to get away after the back window was just shot out. If that's not enough to stop someone "dead" in their tracks, I don't know what is. If he was able to shoot the truck before they got in it, he should have been able to catch them before they got away. I guess that's why they don't allow hearsay in court. It's like one of those stories that gets told to a dozen people and then the story is completely different from the original story.

Dave, it helps to read the whole thread before you post your comments.

Apparently, he had quit shooting and was reloading. They then took the opportunity to jump in their truck and take off.
Makes perfect sense to me. :wink:

I figure BS. But this is the internet. I would be shocked to find BS on the net!! Shocked!!! :)
 
(quoted from post at 23:14:22 07/17/11)
(quoted from post at 07:26:06 07/17/11) bison, have you heard any latest on the central Alberta farmer
who ran down the quad thief.
he story is new to me,..What happened??
remember something about that, But I have not heard anymore about that. Knowing our canadian justice system the farmer is in jail and the thief has a new quad :shock:
 
I belive the Castle Law gives you the right to portect Life & Property . There have been a couple killed in this county while in the act of taking something what wasn't theirs. and the person that done the shooting didn't spend an hour in jail. Thats the way it should be. And in this county on jury is going to give the family any comsation .
 
I don't think stealing is OK but it also doesn't sound like the thieves posed any threat other than taking some things either. I'm with Mark B_MI, something doesn't seem right with this story.
 

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