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Tony in Mass.

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Not tractor tales jokes, but info I can't seem to dig up, weight for one thing, pressure needed, depth? any other comments? Nothing is insulting, bought it for scrap price, needs lines, valve rebuilds and a tractor man enough to take it. I suppose my Cockshutt 540 will be the victum.
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had one put on a 300 ih did a lot of work with it rented it to farmers to dig stones out. it was 40 years ago LOL gerald
 
Its a shame to call it used.

Looks like it took its last bite, assumed the fetal position, collapsed and died right on the spot.

I won't say its old, but the tag says "Milwaukee 1, Wisconsin", and we've had zip codes for what, 50 years?

Wow, I could do 20 minutes of stand-up on that rig.

But seriously, folks- That would actually be a pretty good restoration project. The funky reinforced round pipe beams, the "T" handles on the valves, just kind of a neat rig.

As to your questions- your Cockshutt is going to be at the low end of enough tractor to handle it. You'll need a loader on the tractor to stabilize it when digging. If you try to run it off the tractor hydraulics, it won't be merely slow, it'll be glacial. Really need about 25 GPM (PTO pump or front pump) to make it move fast enough to keep you from nodding off to sleep between bites.

Good luck with it!
 
I'll support you some here Tony, I have a little backhoe attachment for my Bobcat everyone laughed how long a job will take and how small etc....
Sure beats the h*ll out of a shovel, good luck bringing that old girl back

Sean
Cape Cod
 
Tony,

I searched "Wagner Iron Works" on Google and got 41,900 hits. I scanned the first 50 or so entries and saw a lot of stuff about front end loaders, but nothing about backhoes.

On the other hand, there is also a lot of interesting reading about business/legal/labor problems that they had.

Good luck with your project - you're a braver man than I am.

Tom in TN
 
Only one I ever saw was on a 9N ford, The Old man who had it. said he bought it before WW2, The pump was on the crankshaft of the little ford. the wheels were turned out wide. It had a Wagner loader also with a hyd buckett. but it was narrow. He told me it was the first backhoe anybody had seen. Worked it 16 hrs a day 6 days a week. Nobody could believe how much dirt it could dig and how fast. Vic
 
From what I could find on the web, Wagner got out of the loader / backhoe biz in the mid / late 50's. Maybe as early as 55 or 56. So that hoe could be 55 or 56 years old. I have seen wagner loaders, and I remember a 300U with a backhoe. I'd ask on the farmall board. Or maybe the Ford board. They did some biz there also.
 
So many comedians... just don't give up your day job. Ok, only thing I saw missing was a small swing cylinder, but I got an extra. Got a couple long cylinders if I can't fix the dodgy one. Hoses are what NAPA and dealer backrooms are for. There's a dozen, 20-30 bucks each? Still didn't break the bank. I weld, but there looks to be nothing broke or even bent. The break here, is the camel's back. Or Cockshutt's back. It is an industrial 540, bigger than a breadbox, industrial 4 way loader, frame goes beyond back of rear tires for a weight box, so this might just slip in there... the pump is front mount, should handle this guy, but the weight bothers me. How much does this thing weigh? I could never judge the weight of a girl in a bikini, so I won't guess on this thing. I can't believe 9N's carried one of these. This was once on a Fordson Major, so same class as my 540- I think. If this would be OK on a little Ford, I would put it on my narrow MF2135, he got nothing inside or on the back, but a nice front pump and blade plow... I guess I will play that game next weekend.
 
That needs some dedication or a true believer to make that thing work again.
I Don't think i would be up to it but hey ,if it blows your hair back go for it.
 
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