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API oil specs

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dej(Jed)

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A lot of people seem to place a lot of empahsis on having API labels on their oil. I guess that is good, but bear in mind that it is just a label. The API doesn't check it all that well these days. They are a business also and as such in the business of making money. They check very
few of the blenders that they actually license.
Cost To Much. I walked into a local blending operation and saw barrels/cases of oil bearing 12 or so different manufactures labels. It is all made from the same base oils and the same additives. Don't fall prey to the sales gimmick
and do use what you know.
 
Did you actually talk to anyone in the blending factory before you posted this? I too have been inside several blending operations and yes most oils come from the same base stock. It is the additive package that is the difference between oil A and oil B. I realize I have been out of the oil business for many years, but when I was in it , for an oil to get the API certification It had to under go many tests by them. Only after it had passed these tests, then the producer could put the API logo on the package. I cant think that has changed.
 
Its not about the API Lable on the oil, Its what the API Rating is. Some of the newer oils will not work in the older engines. If its the wrong rating it will eat the cam up and cause other damage! I guess you think the oil for a NEW DIESEL ENGINE is good enough for a 50 year old diesel engine? I guess you think oil for a new Mustang is good enough for a a 1969 427 Cobra Mustang? WRONG! The oils have been changed to meet the new specks from the EPA and the engine desiners. The API is not a business of making money they set the standards for oils to meet, That way brand A and brand B and C say meets this rating (SM SL SJ SH SG SF and soforth for gas engines) you can put it in your engine and know its not going to hurt it. I think you need to look up the API Oil Standards and do some reading and understand what the ratings mean before you make a statement like you have. Bandit
 
Bandit... Speaking of older vehicles, I have a 1972 F-100 Ford Pup been in storage for MANy Yrs, with only 43K Miles original,302 V8 belonged to my dad, Since new he wouldn put anything but EXXON Uniflo,10/40 in it,,, am at a loss as to what to put in it now, this truck is a cream Puff!! Your Thoughts please?? Larry KF4LKU
 
The API Ratings have been changed sence this was posted on the internet, So you may need to look it up for yourself for the latest ratings. I was looking up information on a diesel and came across this information and thought I would pass it on. Bandit
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Bandit,

Before you jump all over dej , you might
want to know what he does for a living. If
I recall correctly , he is in the oil testing
biz. It's not nice to snarl at someone that
is trying to educate you.

george
 
this is all bs... there are too many oil samples taken on oil by everyday users... If the oils were not up to snuff, they would be reported... the oil additives formulas are tested, tested, tested and tested... and then sold to 50 different end producers... so api specs are all but guaranteed..

so go bark up a different tree...

there are not a lot of counterfit oil producers out there..

so unless your buying your oil in glass jugs with no labels on it..
 
I am not jumping on him I am stating a simple fact. One I will agree that there is a base oil that most use and there are diffrent additives that are added to the base to make diffrent blends. Two testing is done to each and every blend to make sure they are concistant with the oils formula. Each blend is given a lot# so it can be tracked so they know what day, year shift even the hour it was bottled and plant # so it can be tracked. Testing is done hourly to check for fill (volumetric) any FM and it meets specks. Most if not all oil companys are ISO 9001 or 10001. I use to work at a bottling plant and know about the checks that have to be done by the company for there records and the goverment(Local State and Federal) because it was my job. Nobody wants to put out product that is bad and loose alot of money to recall it and pay damages. I know alittle about this too. Bandit
 
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