Gasoline Hoarding?

Anonymous-0 · Jul 6, 2011

Monday I saw two guys in a pickup at a gas station filling two gallon plastic cans. There were lots of them. As I went in to pay, they had just paid and left. They bought 49.7 gallons of gas in these cans. Today at a different station, I watched a guy load a five gallon plastic can and a two gallon plastic can in the front passenger floorboard of a Mazda Miata convertible. I would NOT want to haul that much gas in those cans in either situation. If the guy in the car got hit in the passenger side, he would have one heck of a bad situation.

Anonymous-0 · Jul 6, 2011

While at the gas station yesterday, I had a guy behind me in line start running his yap about how ridiculous it was for me to be "hoarding gas" while I was filling several cans.

I ignored him, then took the gas home and poured it into my lawn mower, garden tiller, 4-wheeler, and weed eater.

Just sayin'.....

36 Coupe · Jul 6, 2011

Fellow who runs a sawmill does this often.In the back of a pickup though.Farmers and woodsmen buy gas and diesel in 50 gallon drums here.

rrlund · Jul 6, 2011

There was a story on the news here just a month or so ago. Two guys had a couple of full gas cans in the back of a mini van. One of'em lit a cigarette. The burning car rolled in to a vacant fire station just before it was fully engulfed.

Gun guru · Jul 6, 2011

Well if they are paying for it and not stealing it then who cares. Hoarding gas? In 2 weeks my wife would use that much gas for her new 2011 Escape truck. The guy that hoards gas wont have to pay for it later, reducing demand.
On the other hand I have a lot of ammo for 2 different calibers, Hoarding, maybe. I know a guy that has 10,000 rounds of each caliber, .308, .223, .30-06, .22-250, 12 gauge, 20 gauge, Handgun ammo too.
He has 2 safes full of ammo......A little nuts I guess. I dont have that kind of money to spend on ammo. That is thousands and thousands of $$$, Does home owners insurance cover a theft of that magnitude? I doubt it. There is no real reason to have that much ammo on hand, unless you are going to sell it later when the price goes up.

ILLEFTY · Jul 6, 2011

Well my fuel tank on my tactor holds 23 gallons. So when I get gas for it I always fill at least 4, 5 gallon cans

Tony in Mass. · Jul 6, 2011

Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. They have a boat, or hopefully not a plane, but there's few options. I am 'attempting' to rebuild a diesel right now, but all my tractors, now and when I was haying 100's of acres, was all gasoline. Who delivers gasoline to farm tanks anymore? I hit up the closest indian rez, they were going to, but got busted with the tanker before hand- tax issues if sold and delivered off the rez etc etc, so, then and now, sit and the pump and fill plastic jugs... till I run out of plastic jugs.... way it is....

IaGary · Jul 6, 2011

I got filled up for fall this week. Put 850 gallons of diesel, 400 gal on ethanol and 200 gallon of unleaded in the tanks.

Might use 2 or 300 of the gas and 50 gallon of the diesel before fall harvest.

Does this make me a hoarder?

Gary

Tony in Mass. · Jul 6, 2011

Oh don't pick on the guy, he's you buddy. I don't know how old you are, but in the militia / Y2K days, 100k in crates was a daily order at some sport shops. Trouble is, this stuff is now 15-20 years old, if he didn't store it right, you better help him shoot it! Then reload the empties, that is a cool hobby. Now, serious, 10 thousand 22-250's? 250-3000's? Was he going to go into battle against government forces with a takedown savage 99 ??? Very confident fella....

PJH · Jul 6, 2011

I take 14 five gallon cans at a time when I get farm fuel. I'm a small timer, and took down my overhead tank long ago. I don't fill up at a service station - I go to the local fuel depot where they have a keyed pump for hoarders like me. And no long lines of customers. I can understand people behind you in line getting cranky while you fool with a bunch of five gallon cans.

Paul

old · Jul 6, 2011

Ah but unless you walk in there shoes your just taking a wild guess. If you saw me at times I will fill 5 gal cans plus 3 or 4 2 gal ones and then 3 1 gal ones. Am I hoarding heck no I am just getting ready to do some hay or some other such thing. When the gas prices are lower I use a 40 gal tank but to fill that right now brakes the bank so I do the smaller ones and even then if I do them all that takes a Grant note to do and then some

gregk · Jul 6, 2011

yup dad gave me the old fuel tank off of his massey windrower to use for a fuel tank. might hold 40 gallons or so but like was said, it will fill up my M, B, C, mower, weedeater, chainsaw, car if it needs it. I might only fill it up once or twice but it is there and I feel better hauling 40 gallons once rather than 7 gallons 6 times.

Anonymous-0 · Jul 6, 2011

I wouldn't call it hoarding . I take 3 - 6 gallon and 3 - 2 gallon . With loader tractor and three garden tractors go through that in a week to week an half.

buickanddeere · Jul 6, 2011

I keep a few gas cans on hand for the garden tractor, generator and when the wife sputters into the yard with the low fuel light on.
One of these days I'll put proper bulk tanks in.

DoubleR · Jul 6, 2011

I filled my pickup and five 5 gallon containors of gas a week ago. The cans are mty and my truck is on a 1/4 tank now. I don't think I'm hoarding gas. I have about two hundred gallons of diesel in my storage tank that I'm hording to use in my three diesel tractors though. Like the rest of us. the person probably had a need for the gas that you thought he maybe hoarding.

Earl Gray · Jul 6, 2011

Probably a DOT violation, have heard that you can't leagaly transport very much gas. But what's a guy supposed to do? I don't thing the bulk dealers would deliver small amounts (<100 gal) and then you would have to have a legal tank.

Don-Wi · Jul 6, 2011

Right before the price went up again last week, I filled all the gas cans I could find for my lawn mower. (3) 5 gallon cans, (2) 2 gallon cans, and (3) 1 gallon cans. Just over 22 gallons, and it'll last me a little over a month, maybe 2.

If my car is low, I'll dump a can in that as well as it needs premium and that's what I use in the lawn equipment.

Not hoarding in my mind, and 49 gallons worth is hardly hoarding. PLus the cost of buying all the cans, if that's your intent, is kinda taking out any savings of the lower priced gas.

Donovan from Wisconsin

JMOR · Jul 6, 2011

Anybody that does more than play with a tractor needs a lot more that 49 gallons to do much work. hoarding??? ha ha! :roll:

ericlb · Jul 6, 2011

thats nothing i fill 5, 5 gallon jerry cans about every 4 days, and that just runs 2 tractors around here, hardly hording, now if the guy was driving a pickup with the 150 gallon fuel tanks off a 18 wheeler in the back and filling those with gas he might be trying to keep a few gallons on his place

Anonymous-0 · Jul 6, 2011

I guess hoarding was a poor choice of words, I was thinking more of the strange way of hauling gas in both instances.

37chief · Jul 7, 2011

That is about what I do also. stan

Pete76NY · Jul 7, 2011

Wow...are we busy putting our nose where it doesn't belong? We have somewhere in the neighborhood of 12-13 tractors, 6 or 7 5 gallon cans at a time is not out of the norm for us...I know a guy that has a Cabin cruiser in a marina on Cayuga Lake between Ithaca NY and Senaca Falls. Part of the slip rental agreement is that you are not supposed to bring gas into the Marina, effectively making you pay one of the Marinas about 8 bucks a gallon. He lives here in the Binghamton area, and would haul a whole pickup bed full of 5 gallon cans up and pour 'em in at night..Marina owner started catching on, so now he pulls in at a public dock at one of the parks and has someone meet him there with his truck.

Gun guru · Jul 7, 2011

This guy is retired and bored I think. Nothing better to do with his money I guess.

Anonymous-0 · Jul 7, 2011

shoulda took down his plate number and called the cops............that way if he made a bomb and blew something up, you could go on tv and say I told ya so.........Maybe even write a book......

VADAVE · Jul 7, 2011

Well Paul guess you would say that about me; but then you don't know what's going on!
In my case I drive 100 mile every weekend to work on my farm. Gas is 30-35 cents cheaper there so I'll fill 4 or 5 5 gallon containers and bring them home to use in the wife's car about once a month. Why? There NO additional cost and I'm not spending between $7 and $10. Safe? Of course there a risk but then there's a risk just to get in a car.
Yuo're worried about the way the poor Mitia driver is hauling the gas--how else was he going to? And of course he is taking a chance.

36 Coupe · Jul 7, 2011

Its not hoarding,its common sense.Im using up the last of the bar oil I paid 2.38 a gallon for.I have a good potato crop coming along and will store as much as I can.Didnt grow enough last year.Got tired of buying lousy store potatoes.I buy lumber ahead of need.Nails are bought in 50 pound boxes because it was a 12 mile trip for many years.I used to keep a years extra hay in the barn.I had to use it two years ago.We had limits on how much gas we could buy during the first fake oil shortage.I filled every thing that would hold gas to make sure I got my hay in.The primer shortage taught many reloaders a valuable lesson.The bible tells us we should buy oil for our lamps before we need it.I have a sawmill now but still buy spruce for picnic tables,not much spruce on my place.I buy picnic table bolts in march or april because my best supplier will will be out of the size I need in June and July.I pay 15 cents each by the pound.Lowes and HD get 54 cents each for the same bolt.The 2 big stores are not the best place to buy.Am I hoarding because I buy in quantity ahead of actual need?I am using common sense.I keep 2 gallons or kerosene for my lamps.A woman called the corner store when an ice storm hit.She wanted candles and flashlite batteries.They sold out fast in a few hours.

Mike (WA) · Jul 7, 2011

I've been putting gas and diesel in 2.5 gallon plastic oil jugs for years. Easier to handle than 5 gallon size, no spouts to mess with, and free! I use a steel funnel that screws into the tractor fuel tank, and can do it all from the ground (not husky enough anymore to heft a 5 gallon can over my head without spilling).

Back in the old days, I had tanks at the farm- but don't use enough anymore to justify it, and you can't store gas anymore without it going stale.

wolfman · Jul 7, 2011

Do you guys all realize that each time you release the gas nozzle to change cans you lose about a dollar! Somehow when you release the lever the gas is siphoned back down in the tank. That's why if you watch the dollar amount at the pump when filling a plastic can, when you first here the splash the gauge is already at 40 cents or so. That's why cars that are supposed to get 30 mi per gal don't. The States weights & measures guys don't do good work. They see the last reading on the pump and check to see if the $20 divided by the listed price equals the gallons the pump states. They in no way check to see if you really get a gallon (231 cu in) when the pump says 1 gal. Case in point: The other day I put $40 in one pickup. Got 9.4 gal. Minutes later took other pickup & two little cans for mowers. Same station, same pump, filled one can, then the second, finished the $40 in the truck; got 8.6 gal. Shutting off the gas flow quickly twice cost me .8 gal, about $3.

Don-Wi · Jul 7, 2011

I guess we've got better pumps here than you got there. I watch the numbers all the time and have never seen a jump like that. I've seen pumps here being checked, they actually pump gas into a poratble thing that checks it. Then when done they dump it back in the stations tanks and go to the next place.

Donovan from Wisconsin

PJH · Jul 8, 2011

I have never seen what you are describing. Something ain't right about that pump. Check to see if it has an up-to-date tag on it.

I live in Illinois, and I happen to know the Weights & Measures guy (now retired) who checks and tags the fuel pumps in our area. I can assure you that he doesn't simply do a little math off of the last pump reading to determine the pump accuracy. He has a large stainless steel tank in his truck. This tank is made like a big inverted funnel, and has a long slim fill tube on the top. The fill tube is calibrated. He can measure liguid to the gnat's a$$ with that tank. If it's accurate, it gets a dated tag. If it's off, it's bagged for repair.

I think I'd at least switch pumps, and maybe even stations if I were you.

wolfman · Jul 8, 2011

This is s.w.Pa. All stations around here (this county) are like what I described. I witnessed a guy in a state car-blue license- pull in, got out of car with engine running, pushed a couple calculator buttons based on last pump reading and drive away. I should have got his number! Kind of ticks you off; My taxes pay for that car, those blue state plates, his calculator, his salary. And his work is incompetent.

wolfman · Jul 8, 2011

This is s.w.Pa. All stations around here (this county) are like what I described. I witnessed a guy in a state car-blue license- pull in, got out of car with engine running, pushed a couple calculator buttons based on last pump reading and drive away. I should have got his number! Kind of ticks you off; My taxes pay for that car, those blue state plates, his calculator, his salary. And his work is incompetent.

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