Old international truck questions

JOCCO

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1960's 1100 pick up with 6 cylinder cany anyone tell me about the engine? what is a restorabe specimine worth?
 
I don't remember the bore and stroke but was a pretty good engine. yours is probably a 240 cu in. They made the engines from 190 to 301 cu in. They are plentiful. because they came in so many different things. 460 560 660 706 806 and all Combines with a gas motor. The trucks aren't worth more than the 300 dollars a ton they will bring at the junkers. Just one opinion, Vic
 
basically they sell very cheap and are not a hot item from what i have seen.your money your interest, pay what your comfortable with.
 
I've always thought they'd be a good investment if they were cheap enough, since they're not making them anymore and will only get more scarce as the years roll by.
 
I had a 1968 3/4 ton pickup, with a 265 cubic
inch overhead valve 6 cylinder engine and a 4
speed transmission. It wasn"t very fast..took
forever to get to 60 mph, but would cruse there
all day. It was a tough truck! International
made good drivetrains, but I never saw a sixties
model that wasn"t rusted out.
 
Early '60's [pre-'69] Internationals pickups had either the BD or BG engine...BD signifying the Black Diamond series, and there's a lot of discussion as to what the BG actually stood for. Most common explanation was the blue-gray color they were painted.

The BD's came in 220, 240, and 264 cubic inches. In the '60's they all would be what was known as a tilt-valve engine[as differentiated from the straight-valve Silver Diamond 220 and 240, and the straight-valve BD 220 and 240 of the mid-1950's]...tilt valve engines having a slightly wider valve cover. The BG engines' primary difference from the BD engines was a sealed crankcase ventilation system and a PCV valve, rather than a breather cap at the oil filler on the valve cover and a road draft tube on the tappet cover. And even though the BG engines were the same bore and stroke as the BD's, they were designated BG-221, BG-241, and BG-265.

They're a reliable engine with a broad torque curve, but the factory redline is usually around 3600-3800 rpm. Couple that with a relatively low gear ratio, and while you might pull a house down with one in good shape, you'll not win many races.

If you're looking to make money on one, you probably won't. The engines are not all that hard to work on, with Holley carbs and Delco distributors, starters, and generators/alternators. MOST engine parts are available at your local NAPA, but pistons are hard to come by these days...think Egge Machine for those.

The cowl vents run to the underside of the dash, and after all these years they're prone to rusting, particularly around the vent flapper valves. Clutch linkage is hydraulic, so if the truck's been sitting a long time, expect to have to bleed the system. Up though '66, IH used a common brake/clutch master cylinder, utilizing a single reservoir for both, with separate pistons.

Manual transmissions were usually Borg-Warner units, as was the automatic transmission of that era. Power steering is rare on these, with a Ross steering gear and a hydraulic assist cylinder. Rear ends on the 1/2 and 3/4 tons may have been Dana 44 or Dana 60, OR they could be an IH corporate design [based upon an Eaton design]. If the rear diff looks like a Ford 9-inch, it's the IH corporate rear...and parts for that, other than bearings and seals, are pretty scarce. Good things thse rear ends seemed to last forever. If, OTOH, the rear end has a rear cover that bolts on, it's a Dana, and parts are universally available for them. Some 6o's 1/2 tons with the Powr-Lock rear end had Dana 60's under them, with the small 5-on 4-1/2" bolt circle wheels...rare, but a great find.

What are they worth? Jeez, I don't know anymore. I've bought 'em in running condition for $100 and drove 'em home, and I've seen $5-$7,000 asking prices on eBay for trucks that didn't look that much better. But I hope some of the information I've offered up is helpful to you.
 
Dang it Buzzman, you always make me miss my trucks. My '59 B-120 and '68 1110 are still back in IL. Found a NICE B-150 grain truck on craigslist today.
 
Nice info, wow.

I've got a very tired 1960's IHC pickup, and a 1950's IHC grain truck with a lightly used 6 in it (dad put a short block in it 40 years ago, and then hauled 10,000 bu of grain up to 5 miles to tow a yearn...), both just kinda occupying space. Figure they are worth scrap, but hate to see them go to that.

Had a nice barn-full of IHC trucks at the Red Power show last week, few people working on them.

--->Paul
 
Yeah...I understand. My first "car ride" home from the hospital was in a '51 L-110, and I've loved those old Binders ever since.
 
I try to help when I can. My dad and grand-dad were IH guys thru-and-thru, and they always told me, "Pay attention; you might learn something."

So I guess when it comes to these old Internationals, I guess I did.
 
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Farm truck had the fuel pump go out years ago - 6volt, mice liked the cab.

Pickup is well weathered, was running but poorly when parked.

--->Paul
 

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