Purchase from Military Base

Has anybody on here ever managed to purchase old tractors or equipment off of a military base. Found a '53 case SC w/eagle hitch where I"m at and was told that nothing leaves the base and that it would eventually end up in the impact area. If somebody has made a purchase or been granted permission to remove something, how did you do it?

Where are you??? There are ways but sometimes you gotta be creative.
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standard procedure is to go through the drms.anyone can purchase,all combat vehicles must be demilled of course.Several depots all around the world where excess equipment is sold.Do a search on net.Ive bought several things in years past,but make sure you check descritions and understand the rules before you bid.its nearly all done on computer now.Normal procedure is to put equipment up for reuse to other gov agencies,if not needed its sold as excess to the general public.This is feds of course( thats a small part of what i do here) state govs and agencies generally have their own auctions advertised locally.Once you buy you have so long to remove stuff,at your own expense.theoretically every nut and bolt is accounted for..theoretically...you can make a lot of money off this stuff,but you better have a way of moving it once you purchase.Make sure pay attention to where it is also.a cheap whaleboat,airplane ,tractor,or truck may not be such a bargain if your in utah and its in guam!!!True story,young lady here was in charge of our vehicles,all products are assigned in the gov a nsn so she wrote down the number of new truck we needed but got one number wrong.A young army supply officer in egypt just happened to call,to say a russian t-34 tank was being loaded on a ship and give us a delivery date,but he was curious as to why we needed one!needless to say she cancelled that order...one other thing ,,make sure you check QUANTITY!!! (the issue amount).lots of things can be priced each,and you buy 10 and get 10 cases. In other words check carefully and know what your doing.if you have a question call the poc BEFORE hand.you can make a LOT of money doing this,but make SURE you understand it first,pay special attention to place,poc,amounts of issue ,and study the condition codes for sure if your buying for re-sale,and not scrap.

Ya gotta go here.
govliquidation.com

that's all well and good in general, but if you've already found something specific and want it, you gotta circumvent a little......

just saying,,,just in case,,,all missing fed property MUST be reported and investigated by the FBI.you probably dont want to get caught with it!...IF its destined for the target range,its NOT uneeded,and its NOT excess...

That isn't a Federal Government website since it's a dot.com. These guys probably buy a lot of stuff from DRMS for resale (at a profit) at this site

The Feds contract out the selling to these guys just like they contract everything else they can out to civilian agencies. If you look nearly all the items listed are still setting on a military base and never leave there until bought and picked up. Supposidly this saves the government money by not having to pay military personell to do this kind of work. Unfortunately we all know the civilian contractors wind up charging way more than the government would spend to train and pay some 20 year old kid to do the same thing.

Twenty years ago when I was in the Navy, stationed in Ingleside, TX, pretty much everything on the base from running the BEQ to running he mess hall was all contracted out to civilian agencies. There were always 'token' military guys such as myself with duties that revolved around the same activities but all the 'grunt work' was handled by others. Sad all the koney spent paying the salaries of the military people and then spent again paying civilians to do the same jobs.....Typical Government stupidity wasting the taxpayers money if you ask me........

What really gets me is that when you look at some of the items you know they are outdated, broken, etc and are worth only scrap value to the government but sold off ar worth more. On the other hand are things like hand tools, etc that don't wear out or go bad yet they are sold as "surplus". Heck in the time I spent in the service we did good to get any tools to do out job and to see perfectly good tools, bought with taxpayer money, sold off for next to nothing makes me sick..........

When I was working at Aberdeen Proving Ground in MD they had sales about once a month and you had to spot bid on each item. Once you were awarded the item and paid for it they would even help you load it. They sold just about everything from farm tractors to cars and trucks painted OD. They moved the sale to Fort Meade that's too far away for me.

My former co-worker that's retired has bought items from www.govliquidation.com and they have lots of items to sell. You need to haul your items or make arrangements to have it hauled. They probably will help you load large items. They have a lot of those Oshkosh
trucks that we tested at APG. The ones we tested had Detroit diesels. The later trucks had Cat diesels. Hal

Bill,
Here's a Defense Dept. site that'll tell you about surplus military property disposal.
Pete
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being a gov contractor,i know it works alittle different than that.gov doesnt pay me ,contractor does,gov pays him just like you would if you hired one to build a house or something.gov actually saves money because they are not paying for insurance,leave, retirement etc.they dont pay the days off,holidays or vacations.contractors bid on jobs and are awarded contracts same as the real world.supposedly small buisnesses have a leg up,but some of these contractors are huge,and are awarded small buisness status because of being native american or woman owned companies.we do everything from survivability testing on gov aircraft, to r&d on gov equipment,installations,repair.nearly all systems are now built and repaired by contractors and we even train the military.my job ALONE was staffed by a crew of 5 feds,i do it alone and take care of 9 buildings where they had one.is that a savings? be kind of hard to pull the contractors out,wouldnt be much left.I pull the pay of a gs 11,all those other five were higher pay grades,in fact i was recruited by the feds to do this job and told them i didnt want it but they insisted and since i knew the head man here personally and he said he needed me i relented.i intended to stay only untill troubles were lined out but been here going on 12 years and they wont let me go.LOL

After 41+ years in Government you would not want 99% of the stuff You could but. Here in TX the first dibbs goes to the OK school system, then to their State Govt Before it evens comes available to TX. Then it is the same thing. Govt all the way from Feds to locals get first shot. Most of what I have seen you don't want. Now at times the MWR will sell off stuff. Their money source is not tax payer sourced but self generated.

From the govliquidation.com website:

"Government Liquidation (GL), a Liquidity Services, Inc. marketplace is the exclusive contractor of the DLA Disposition Services for the sale of surplus and scrap assets of the United States Department of Defense (DOD)."

Exclusive means it ALL goes through them.
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(quoted from post at 15:53:59 06/21/11) The Feds contract out the selling to these guys just like they contract everything else they can out to civilian agencies. If you look nearly all the items listed are still setting on a military base and never leave there until bought and picked up. Supposidly this saves the government money by not having to pay military personell to do this kind of work. Unfortunately we all know the civilian contractors wind up charging way more than the government would spend to train and pay some 20 year old kid to do the same thing.

Twenty years ago when I was in the Navy, stationed in Ingleside, TX, pretty much everything on the base from running the BEQ to running he mess hall was all contracted out to civilian agencies. There were always 'token' military guys such as myself with duties that revolved around the same activities but all the 'grunt work' was handled by others. Sad all the koney spent paying the salaries of the military people and then spent again paying civilians to do the same jobs.....Typical Government stupidity wasting the taxpayers money if you ask me........

What really gets me is that when you look at some of the items you know they are outdated, broken, etc and are worth only scrap value to the government but sold off ar worth more. On the other hand are things like hand tools, etc that don't wear out or go bad yet they are sold as "surplus". Heck in the time I spent in the service we did good to get any tools to do out job and to see perfectly good tools, bought with taxpayer money, sold off for next to nothing makes me sick..........

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The biggest reason they have been contracting stuff out and or hiring civilians to do what could be done by service members is that the size of the military is strictly controlled by congress. A mechanized infantry division has about 30,000 troops. Of that about 8 thousand are combat soldiers, the rest support. You can if needed draft trained truck drivers and cooks but infantry men, tankers, scouts and so on have to be trained. So every job you eleminate from the military roll adds another trooper doing a combat job.

Rick

I would agree with most of that,but dont forget theres more out there than military stuff.Ive excessed more than you would believe of brand new ,never installed or used equipment brand new in original containers.Theres a company here in oklahoma ,that has for years made a large profit off of selling used gov office furniture,cubicle parts and stuff. Lots of money to be made stripping down electronic equipment.And in many cases you can resell to the gov itself believe it or not.Scrap metal companies make HUGE profits.Theres a lot of gov agencies out there besides the military! And they are involved in just about every thing you can think of,from blowing up bunkers,to planting food plots for deer and wildlife,and even cooking meals for a fancy dinner party or catering trucks.When we think of surplus military surplus is what generally comes to mind,but thats a very small part actually of the buisness.You can buy every thing from battleships and aircraft,to silk bedsheets in these auctions.
Now back to the original question.The answer is yes there is a way to get stuff off of military bases legally.First is to find, if you have access, the person whos job it is to excess property,not so easy in it self since you just cant wander around most military bases asking questions.
Next,he or she will have to inspect vehicle in question ,note any serial #s ,nsn #s,etc and fill out the proper form to get it in system
Next he /she submits a removal form and property is picked up by base personell and moved to excess area.
Here they are sorted ,assigned a condition code,a tracking number etc etc.
Next they are offered to other military bases within that branch for reuse.
If not taken they ar offered to other branches,if still not taken,they are offered to other federal agencies,
If still not taken they are offered to state agencies,then schools,mueseums,etc,etc, a
And finally are offerd for sale to the general public as a last resort.
As you can imagine most of the better things have been picked up somewhere during this sometimes several year process.If you can track it through this process,and you actually can with the right connections,you can be there when it comes up for auction and purchase it.
Now theres another way,and its also legal,if you are say part of a schoool ,vo-tech, meuseum ,you can often get a direct transfer of equipment from the military to your enterprise.You would still have to have proper credentials,and lots of gov paperwork to get it done and you would still have to have contact point to start with.Which is often hard to pin down.This would greatly speed up the process,if base commander was willing to allow the transfer ,since he is ultimatly on the hook for every piece of equipment on the base right down to the toilet paper.Most places they simply dont have the time or dont want to be bothered with all the crap to do something like this.
(note) He cannot legally transfer property directly to an individual,unless of course that person is also military of course and the property in that case would remain gov property.
He/she can transfer ownership with the right paperwork legally to your legal meuseum,or whatever.But there are many times depending on the thing in question,requirements placed on it for it to be restored ,rebuilt and displayed in the proper manner.Once its the property of a individual say vo-tech or mueseum ,and they are finished with it for whatever reason they can sell direct to public in most cases... as you can imagine it a long drawn out process most of the time,but it can be done....now you COULD circumvent all this and simply pick it up,as has been eluded to,but if your going to steal one ,I'd recomend walking over to your neighbors house and stealing one in better shape!No difference whatsoever.And you might find one all painted up pretty!

they advertise trucks trailers and all other equiptment all the time on craigslist from fort drum. nothing id ever use but lots of stuff every couple of weeks. what is the compact area.

"Impact area", not compact area.

Stuff is put out as targets for the troops, firing rocket propelled grenades, grenade launchers, mortars, tank guns, etc.

Can you imagine any bureaucrat going to all that trouble over an SC Case?

Much easier for them to just stonewall you, which is actually what they did.

and there you go!its a long drawn out process that most folks like to stay away from.But I can agree with most of it, at least in theory.After all ,its not actally theirs to sell,it all belongs to the people of the US.You and me. And i kind of like the idea of someone taking care of my stuff!by the way,do you know if the base near you lets farmers bale hay and stuff to keep brush down?lots of them do allow certain farmers who rent land for haying access certain times of the year,just to keep down danger of fires.IF SO,,its quite possible that tractor actually belongs to one of those farmers and not the military.If so theres you a lead.You might call and ask at the base if they do this.And they may even tell you who has that section leased.If its his you may still have an option without all the hassle.be worth checking into maybe...could even be a city vehicle,some places still lease land from the city they are located in.