Cost to haul tractor

Is there a rule of thumb or educated guess you could give me for the cost to haul a Deere 4010 580 miles from Hugoton, KS (southwest KS) to Fulton, MO (central, MO.) The Wife"s grandpa"s tractor is coming available and as I decide how much I can pay for it I better take into account a long haul. I am posting a message on the haul board, any other advice for arranging freight appreciated.

I bought a truck on Flea Bay and needed it hauled, so I went on line to www.uship.com and entered the item and to and from locations and got like 8 bids. I ended up paying less then $1.00 per mile (cash payment plus a real fly by night operator lol) but most bids were like 1.25 to 1.40 per mile. Many were pickup trucks hauling goosneck flatbeds, hot shotters, but were still licensed and bonded.

John T
U Ship

I got a hauler from the haul board to tow my custom truck. He damaged it while loading it. He
had Canal as his insurer. I had a hard time getting them to pay for the damage. My insurance
company took care of the repair and went after Canal to get their money. check out the insurance
the hauler has before contracting.

(quoted from post at 10:56:54 06/02/11) I bought a truck on Flea Bay and needed it hauled, so I went on line to www.uship.com and entered the item and to and from locations and got like 8 bids. I ended up paying less then $1.00 per mile (cash payment plus a real fly by night operator lol) but most bids were like 1.25 to 1.40 per mile. Many were pickup trucks hauling goosneck flatbeds, hot shotters, but were still licensed and bonded.

John T
U Ship

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Either you got off real lucky, or that was a few years ago, or those hot-shotters really are not covering their expenses. The rule of thumb today, with fuel prices hovering at the $4.00 per gallon and higher mark, is to charge per loaded mile approximately the same as the price per gallon of fuel. If you can get the tractor to share a load going the same way, you MIGHT get it hauled for as little as $2.00 per loaded mile. I would be very cautious of hiring any one with a pick up truck and gooseneck trailer who offers to haul the tractor for $1 to $1.50 per mile. It just simply cannot be done.

Last month I bought a 1175 Case tractor in Lincoln Kansas, I hired a local hauler to deliver it to me for $3.50 a loaded mile.

Be sure to check the Buyer/Seller Feedback Forum under the Discussion Forums tab here. There is scammer working the Hauling Schedule who will require a small deposit via a "reload debit card" from Walmart or Dollar General Store. Don't fall for his trick! You have no recourse once he gets your money on a debt card. He has got a lot of people. He says he lives on the road and he uses several different names.

$1750-2000 is what I would do it for and its my tractor until I drop it off.

Actually, it was less then a month ago and I got it hauled the 630 loaded miles (Fredericksburg, VA to Bloomington, Indiana) for $500...

John T

Thanks John, will check them out

I got my Kubota mini excavator from miss. To Or for 1800. The big guys with large rigs can do it for less as they haul more than one itm.
Shop around.
Walt

I had a White 2-105 hauled thru U-ship back in January. Guy was running a 2011 truck. $1.35 a loaded mile. All 3 of the quotes I received were well under $2.00 per mile. About 10 days ago, I made a bit over a 800 mile trip to pick up a JD 7200 planter. The trip cost me just under $175 for diesel fuel for my Dodge.

Forgot to add. That puts the fuel cost at less than 22 cents per mile.

When I bought a 16,000 pound tractor, the hauler said if anyone paid $2 a loaded mile, it was about 80 cents too high. I paid a buck twenty from Iowa to Indiana.

I really do not see how anyone could charge 3 to 4 dollars a mile for anything other than a special load (oversized) and look at themself in the mirror afterwards.

I would really like to see how you can justify prices like that even with $4 a gallon fuel.

Well go get rigged up and try it then. I charge about $3.00 a loaded mile,I do a good job and while I don't really like looking at myself it doesn't have anything to do with what I charge.

Semi gets around 6 mpg. So at the $3.85 diesel that is 65 cents per mile just for fuel. So you need to figure round trip so that has your fuel cost at $1.30 per loaded mile. The Driver usually gets a third of the gross: So $3.00 x .33 = 99 cents for the driver. So we are at $2.29 per mile without License, insurance, tires,oil, and equipment cost. My Semi"s license cost $5600 per year to go lower 48 states. The Inssurance is $4900 each year. So tell me again how rich you will get hauling $3 per mile frieght????????? Right now we are charging $4 per mile for anything under 200 miles.

Also remember that Less than truck load (LTL) frieght always cost more per mile than full load frieght. Like I said above come on in the water fine. Those that think that you can get rich driving a truck need to buy one and go do it. If I did not need the semi for my own grain I would not own one. My youngest son drives when he is not busy farming.

Its 600 miles,so at 1.20 per mile is 720 dollars.Then thats 100 gallons of fuel at 4 dollars a gallon so thats 400 dollars for fuel.Or that would be 57 cents a mile fuel surcharge,which comes out to 1062 dollars.I doubt you can get anybody with a tractor trailer to do it for less unless you buy the fuel.Plus anybody that goes empty to get it will want more than that.You might get it if a trucker is in the area(very doubtful)and needs a backhaul back to Central Missouri,or just a run to central Missouri.
Probably closer to 1500 considering where it is and where a truck would have to come from to get it.
Now somebody with a hot shot rig might be able to haul it for a lot less,but I dont even know if they have them very much any more. That would be a Dodge Dually with a dually trailer which can haul about as much as a tractor trailer but gets about twice as good of fuel mileage.
I dont have a truck and dont know anybody any more that even has a flatbed.There is a flatbed trucking company at Fayette,Missouri that you might ask.Maybe if they have a truck setting out in that area they might make a good deal on hauling it back for you since they are not too far from where you are. Frink Trucking 866 451 2692.There are others.

John, Buddy, Brush up on your marketing skills. I also submit that you need to raise your self esteem. You are worth $3-4 per mile and more. If your not hauling for at least $2.5 your going broke and just haven't gotten there yet.

I won't fire up my 05 pete for less that $3. I just hauled from Houston to Miami for $5/mile. That's not the norm but I get at least 6-7 of those type loads per year.
The brokers charge their clients $3-5.00 then screw the truckers telling them they have to run for $1.5/mile.CHRobinson is the worst in that respect.

This is a free market and I can't make anybody call me. I provide a very high level of service and my clients gladly pay what I ask.

Now don't get all upset with me, call me @ 281-831-5331 and I'll tell you how I do it.

(quoted from post at 20:29:50 06/02/11) Semi gets around 6 mpg. So at the $3.85 diesel that is 65 cents per mile just for fuel. So you need to figure round trip so that has your fuel cost at $1.30 per loaded mile. The Driver usually gets a third of the gross: So $3.00 x .33 = 99 cents for the driver. So we are at $2.29 per mile without License, insurance, tires,oil, and equipment cost. My Semi"s license cost $5600 per year to go lower 48 states. The Inssurance is $4900 each year. So tell me again how rich you will get hauling $3 per mile frieght????????? Right now we are charging $4 per mile for anything under 200 miles.

Also remember that Less than truck load (LTL) frieght always cost more per mile than full load frieght. Like I said above come on in the water fine. Those that think that you can get rich driving a truck need to buy one and go do it. If I did not need the semi for my own grain I would not own one. My youngest son drives when he is not busy farming.

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Thank you for explaining it in such easy to understand terms. It is just amazing to me how folks will complain about the high cost of gasoline they need just to get back and forth from work, but then turn around and think they should be able to get a toy hauled for $1.50 per mile.

Anybody that can run a truck for 1.20 a mile with no fuel surcharge is loosing money. Your post doesnt say where the truck came from or if anything else was on the truck,or anything.The only way you are going to get less than 2.00 a mile for a tractor trailer is if something else is on the truck.In my figures cutting it to the bone,with no deadhead charge was still a dollar and seventy seven cents.The only way a truck could do that is if they had good pay getting there.
I know trucking inside out and sideways and you wont get a tractor trailer to run empty out to nowhere land in Kansas and get a tractor that may need to be hunted down,and then haul it to Missouri,where he cant get a load out of probably,for 1.20 a mile.When you find a company that will do that its probably the last time because they will be broke soon.
I dont think you can even get a hot shot for 1.20 a mile.I would say it will be a lot closer to 2.50 a mile than 1.77 that I figured with a fuel surcharge because there will be some empty miles.You just cant run anywhere without getting paid because the price of fuel will eat up your profit and you will be broke.
Now the 3.50 and 4 dollars are just too high,but it all depends on what you are hauling.Back in the 1980s they got 3 dollars a mile for oversized loads and fuel was a dollar a gallon and that included a flag car which got a dollar a mile out of the 3 dollars a mile.
If the trucker has to wait a day or 2,and if he has problems like gets stuck or cant get the thing started and has to have it winched up on there and all kinds of other things I cant think of,it will be more money.Maybe people that do this want 3 dollars a mile,I could sure see why.My guess would be that 2.50 is close to what it will cost about everywhere.The only way for cheap is to share the load with something else or a truck company wants that truck thats in the area in a different area quickly.

(quoted from post at 13:36:00 06/02/11) Actually, it was less then a month ago and I got it hauled the 630 loaded miles (Fredericksburg, VA to Bloomington, Indiana) for $500...

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Yeah, but yours wasn't the only thing on the load, right?

I had a tractor hauled from MO to NY about 5 years ago for 60 CENTS a mile. That's because he had room on the trailer, and was headed right past me on his way East.

If you can tag along on another load, you share the cost with the other customers.

I just had a tandem dump truck, approx 25,000 lbs, hauled from New Hampshire to NE Minnesota for $1.60 per loaded mile, but, the trucker had a restored classic car on the trailer that he picked in Mass. that was going about 100 miles farther than me.
This was through a broker. We had other quotes, some much higher and some not too much higher.
DWF

Uship first bid is 1,165. Its a gooseneck rig. Looks like he has hauled alot of tractors and has good feedback.

"So you need to figure round trip so that has your fuel cost at $1.30 per loaded mile"


Why should I pay for you to dead head home because you do not have enough business to find other loads?????????

Charging $1.50 per mile and giving him 33% would be about .50 per mile to the driver. .50 for a driver is pretty good pay. LTL road drivers only get .50 to .60 per mile and they are some of the highest paid drivers out there.

I was more talking about some guy with a 1 ton and a trailer hauling tractors on the side rather than a semi but lets look at your cost.

Fuel .65
Driver .50
Lic and insurance .10 ($10,500/105000)
Tires;oil;repairs .15 ($15,000/105000)
Truck and trailer .25 ($180,000/735000) 7yrs @105000
Thats $1.65
Plus 20% for dead head miles comes to 1.98 per mile and that is a semi.
If you are dead heading over 20% of the time you need to find a broker to help you find loads.

Fuel sur charge is about 30% right now so charging 1.50 per mile plus the 30% would be right at $1.95 per mile. Pretty close to what I figured before.

Then for someone with a $35000 one ton and gooseneck that gets well over 6mpg to charge 3 or 4 dollars a mile to haul my tractor because a buddy with his semi charges that much is still hwy robbery.

$1165
That is $2 per mile and is about right.

Before you decide on any carrier ask what his DOT and ICC or MC #'s are.
If he can not give you these two #'s he is not licenced to haul for hire.

Well then, I guess you wouldn't get the work, now would you? $4/mile, you must think you and you're equipment are pretty special.

A thousand guys would undercut you and be profitable on the run. And don't talk down to me, I've been there and done that too.

$4 a mile, lol, please. You'll run out of fools willing to pay that price real fast.