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question on drill behind disk

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Dave from MN

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Well, 806 is up and ready to roll with out the brakes locked, and with three days of rain forecasted I need to get on getting my 1.4 maturity beans in, and the rest, so was wondering if any one has any opinions on pulling a 14' melroe 202 with packer wheels behind a 14' disk. Will be going into dead oats cover crop that was dicked in last fall, or would it be better to pull it behind a IH 45 field cultivator? I have quite a few acres to put in, plus still have to plant 90 acres corn for a friend so I wanted to split the work between the JD 7000 and the melroe. The 7000 I can no till with if need be but it is too wide to get into some of my feilds due to land owners trees that the do not want removed at this time. This is mostly lighter soil, with patches of black dirt, peat, very little hard clay. This is a first time for me to try this.
 
The disk might work better. Wouldn't the field cultivator tend to plug up with the old oats straw? They drill a lot of beans downt his way.
7" rows and 15" rows.

Good luck,

Gene
 
We never drilled beans just before a rain they will push down too deep and not sprout. I would use a disk you want a level seed bed.
 
The disk might work in your area, but last week in central Minnesota it didn't work for us. I planted spring wheat. All the disk did was pull up mud balls. We used the field cultivator and shallow tillage and it didn't pull up any mud. We had a pretty decent seed bed considering how wet the subsoil is.
 
The field cultivator if the residue is not to heavy would be the best and it will make a leveler field than a disk and if you do not have the harrow on the back take anything, a couple of pieces of well water pipe and chain together back of harrow and in front of drill to smooth. The problem without that to level between the field cultivator and drill is that some seed openers will want to run in bottom between cultivator ridges while others on top and getting equal depth covering. The harrow will work better in slightly wet soil than the disk, Only use disk if you need to cut residue or if ground is packed too hard for field cultivator to penetrate.. A disk where it throws the dirt together even if you have that harrow for leveling will make the center drill openers want to plug. We ran thousand of acres with disk till after had field cultivator and tried it and never went back to disk in front of drill. Always pulled a spike tooth harrow in back of drill as well.
 
Well, we are not really sure. Completely took off the MCV had it gone through at local IH shop since it was platered with gasket sealant. We completely drained all hydraulic fluid, installed new filters. Reinstalled MCV valve, and it still did it , but not a locked up as before, so also had the IH mechanic rebuild the brake valve. Didnt really find anything to obvious. Reinstalled and now everything works, knock on wood. I do know the filter looked awful dirty, hyd oil that was in looked awful, which bother me because the previous guy I had work on it was supposed to change the filter and fluids on it. Hadn't really used it since then. IH mechanic, said he cant say for certain what it was. Gonna be a heck of a bill I am certain, but at least it is now a usable tractor. Very good mechanic, and the dealer ship really helped me out asap even though they have a huge work load right now.
 
I have drilled beans behind a disc but not on the same pass or day. I'd be concerned the soil might be too wet directly behind the disc. I only ran the disc a couple inches deep and pulled a cultipacker behind the drill. My thinking was to break up the crust enough for the disc openers on the drill to get the seed under an inch or so of soil then roll the ridges flat with the packer.
 
If you can get thru the residue and it is reasonably the same size as the drill, I would use the field cultivator
 
depends on the disk if it is one of those ridging 480 IH's-no (I had one, like my 490 alot better), if it is a 37 ih, sa Case or a bw jd- yes if it isn't too wet and it adequately tills the ground, plenty of time to put in 1.4 beans, I have some 2.0's to go in swMn yet and we don't get the growing weather like they do from Tracy and east
 
amen on the 490 case ih disk by far the best disk i have ever ran or been around the next best would be a burch disk
 
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