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4010 puller 01-26-2009 15:29:45 75.108.59.218 3026 Report to Moderator	Hey Guys: I'm wondering how high (lift kit)a newer truck can be and still pull a gooseneck trailer without hitting bedsides. I was looking at an 03 chevy with 5" lift and 315 tires, chevy's sit lower than ford and dodge anyways, so I thought it would work but not for sure. how high are your trucks that your towing with? [Reply]   [No Email]
Dennis Benson 01-31-2009 11:22:16 64.12.117.195 3056 Report to Moderator	Re: heighth of truck in reply to 4010 puller, 01-26-2009 15:29:45   I think I heard somewhere that if the trailer is too much out of level it can get a ticket. You might want to put a lift kit on your trailer, too. I don"t have any numbers, but would be concerned that altering the tires and suspension would actually decrease the capacity. Another thing I just noticed today. I was meeting a F150 with a lift kit, and wide tires. The tires extended almost as far as the mirrors. The snow accumulation down the road left enough room to meet traffic, but he couldn"t get to the right enough to meet me, and I had to edge into someone"s driveway so he could get by. Also, a month or so ago I saw a Ford with extra wide tires, but only yhe inside edge was touching the road because they wore out the ball joints. The outside edge of the tires were so far off the road that you could slide your fingers under them. I know Chevy"s have a taller steering knuckle, so the ball joints are farther apart, but I would wonder how the wider tires will affect the ball joint life.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Dennis Benson 01-31-2009 11:22:14 64.12.117.195 3055 Report to Moderator	Re: heighth of truck in reply to 4010 puller, 01-26-2009 15:29:45   I think I heard somewhere that if the trailer is too much out of level it can get a ticket. You might want to put a lift kit on your trailer, too. I don"t have any numbers, but would be concerned that altering the tires and suspension would actually decrease the capacity. Another thing I just noticed today. I was meeting a F150 with a lift kit, and wide tires. The tires extended almost as far as the mirrors. The snow accumulation down the road left enough room to meet traffic, but he couldn"t get to the right enough to meet me, and I had to edge into someone"s driveway so he could get by. Also, a month or so ago I saw a Ford with extra wide tires, but only yhe inside edge was touching the road because they wore out the ball joints. The outside edge of the tires were so far off the road that you could slide your fingers under them. I know Chevy"s have a taller steering knuckle, so the ball joints are farther apart, but I would wonder how the wider tires will affect the ball joint life.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Tn s88 01-27-2009 19:17:39 71.236.46.115 3035 Report to Moderator	Re: heighth of truck in reply to 4010 puller, 01-26-2009 15:29:45   I want to make sure you know I'm talking about a mild lift. My F-250 with the 4" lift measures the exact same height at the top of the bed as a stock dodge 2500 4x4. If you are hauling much weight the gooseneck is the only way to go. Also you would need lower gears to offset the larger tires. A big lift and bumper pull trailer would not be safe. Just trying to help.   [Reply]   [No Email]
Tn s88 01-26-2009 20:11:26 71.236.46.115 3029 Report to Moderator	Re: heighth of truck in reply to 4010 puller, 01-26-2009 15:29:45   It would depend on how high the neck is on the trailer. I pull a 25' Hurst gooseneck loaded with a 7500 pound super 88 oliver with a F-250,4" skyjacker lift and 35" tires. This is a very stable rig and is safe. The truck handles better than it did stock. The only problem would be if the trailer had a low tounge it could hit the bed rails. Also I would not use lift blocks in the rear,make shure it has lift springs.   [Reply]   [No Email]
ericlb 01-26-2009 19:22:18 72.173.211.235 3028 Report to Moderator	Re: heighth of truck in reply to 4010 puller, 01-26-2009 15:29:45   if your going to tow a loaded gooseneck with a lifted truck be sure and post your routes so we all can avoid the wreck that is almost sure to happen   [Reply]   [No Email]
4010 puller 01-27-2009 02:54:04 75.108.59.218 3030 Report to Moderator	Re: heighth of truck in reply to ericlb, 01-26-2009 19:22:18   Why? Increased spring arch allows for heavier towing and bigger tires decrease swaying, especially with a bumper pull/pintle hitch trailer.   [Reply]   [No Email]
ericlb 01-27-2009 04:31:25 72.173.211.235 3031 Report to Moderator	Re: heighth of truck in reply to 4010 puller, 01-27-2009 02:54:04   several reasons , first while a lifted truck with high arch springs and wider tires is more stable by itself, when towing a heavy trailer that works against you, now im talking a big heavy trailer here not something like a bike trailer or personal watercraft ect, since your handel is 4010 puller im assuming your going to be hauling a tractor,in this case the first thing is that the trucks center of gravity in higher than stock, when towing, that will make it feel like it wants to push the front end in a turn as well as a general 'squirmy' feeling,then with the taller tires it will require more effort from the brakes to stop as well as it will be a little sluggish in acceleration, due to the increased distance from the center of the wheel to the outside of the tire, [ thats one of the reasons large stuff like monster trucks, front end loaders ect. run planatery gear sets in their axle ends, more tourque] then as the tires are also wider the trucks ground pressure is spread out over a wider area, thats the whole idea of wider tires, when towing since the truck weighs the same as it did before the lift it will be easier for the trailer which probably will be heavier than the truck to push it, think of it this way picture exiting a interstate with the lifted truck and heavy trailer the exit curves away from the hiway then you have to stop at the bottom for another cross road, while decending the exit ramp your applying the brakes, as your also turning, you have some lateral forces at work too, if your not very carefull and have your brakes set just right the trailer will be trying to push the truck sideways, if it breaks it loose, your now in what truckers call a 'tractor induced skid' unless you are experienced and know how to recover from this, it gets real serious real fast and you'll end up facing the rear of your own trailer with lots of smashed metal, if the gooseneck doesnt swing through the cab and decapitate you too, im not saying the truck cant do the job, it can, but its a lot more risky that with a stock truck which is adventerous enough, hope this makes sence   [Reply]   [No Email]