Brushless cordless tools?

Geo-TH,In · Mar 18, 2021

I have 2 dewalt 20v Brushless tools. One is a half inch 3 speed hammer drill and the other is a 12 inch chainsaw.

I don't feel like the brushless tools have the starting torque that my old tools have. Sometimes the chainsaw hesitate when I start it, especially if chain is in contact with the log.

My 20v black and decker pole saw has brushes and it doesn't care if it's touching the branch before I pull the trigger.

What's your opinion?
Any data on starting torque of brushless tools vs the old tools with brushes ?
geo.

moresmoke · Mar 18, 2021

I have Milwaukee, the big brushless 1/2 drill ( which is really not very big) you better be hanging on when you pull the trigger.

Geo-TH,In · Mar 18, 2021

I have a 2 speed Milwaukee. If I grab the chuck I can stop it.
George

kevinj54 · Mar 18, 2021

(quoted from post at 17:28:51 03/18/21) I have Milwaukee, the big brushless 1/2 drill ( which is really not very big) you better be hanging on when you pull the trigger.

X2

That M18 brushless has lots of twist!!!

Dusty MI · Mar 18, 2021

Geo,

How well does your B&D 20 volt pole saw work?
I have a B&D 20 volt pole saw that seems rather slow. I've wondered if it's just because it's battery operated? I've got a Remington 16" 120 volt chainsaw that works very well.

Dusty

JMOR · Mar 18, 2021

Battery power is nice for any tool you plan to use for a few seconds & need the portability, such as drill, impact tool.. Blowers, hedge trimmers, chain saws (if you must go electric) belong on an extension cord or generator & extension cord. My experience & I'm sticking with it.

Steve@Advance · Mar 18, 2021

I broke a Remington 120v once.

Using it clearing along a chain link fence, got too close, snagged the fence.

No clutch like a gas saw, the instant stop broke a plastic gear in the transmission.

Geo-TH,In · Mar 18, 2021

Yes, it's slow, but gets the job done.

Geo-TH,In · Mar 18, 2021

I'll use the generator on a 16 inch
electric.
BOSS used a generator and 120v Alligator
before hot ger a 20v Alligator. She gave
away the 120v alligator.
You will wear out using a 6a 20 v
aftermarket Black and Decker battery on
the alligator before battery is dead.
The 1.5 amp battery claims you can cut
100 3 inch branches. I couldn't tell you
if it's true because I never had to cut
100 branches.
The 20v Dewalt 12 inch chainsaw is slower
than the 120v electric. But its handy
and easy to carry on the terramite for
smaller jobs.
George

moresmoke · Mar 18, 2021

There are multiple models that all look sorta the same. The best ones you have to order or buy from an industrial tool store. Home Depot/Lowes sell the smaller ones. Im a pretty big boy, and I cant hold this drill in low range if it grabs.

Jeff NWOH · Mar 18, 2021

I believe your lack of start torque is the way those brushless tools are electronically controlled. I have the Dewalt 1/2 hammer drill, 1/4 hex driver, and 1/2 impact in brushless. None of them have an instant full speed start if you jam the trigger down, but they all will get the job done. I believe the different torque settings are electronically controlled and I assume they all have a soft start of sorts built in.

Do your tools hesitate and then not perform or do they have a hesitation and then go to town?

I have no complaints on mine, but they are definitely a little different than tools of the past.

Vern · Mar 18, 2021

I have a DeWalt 60V 16 chain saw that has good starting torque. I set the chain on the tree, pull the trigger & it cuts.

Vern

4520BW · Mar 19, 2021

I have a lot of Milwaukee fuel tools and they seen to have plenty of torque, like others said you better hang onto the drill! I can not remember the last time I used a corded tool.

ASEguy · Mar 19, 2021

I purchased an 80 volt brushless Kobalt blower to use on the pathway my wife uses to walk in the woods. It's a 1/2 mile round trip. The blower does it and a lot more. I love it even though it was pricey.

MJMJ · Mar 19, 2021

As mentioned, the hesitation is designed in some high torque tools to prevent internal damage.

Caryc · Mar 19, 2021

I have a 20V Worx chain saw and a 20V Worx jawsaw. They both run very well and last a good long time.

The instructions for both tools say to pull the trigger and get the chain up to speed before making the cut. Never had any trouble for lack of power on either tool. I bought the chain saw first, then decided to buy the jaw saw. I love both tools. That jaw saw will let you cut up 4" logs laying on the ground. No lifting them up as you would do with a chain saw.

Stan in Oly, WA · Mar 19, 2021

Moresmoke,
I came awfully close to buying that Milwaukee drill a few months ago, but I reconsidered. I realized that I'm not not strong enough anymore to use a drill that is stronger than me, especially when I don't recover from sprains and other power tool related mishaps the way I used to.

Stan

Caryc · Mar 19, 2021

(quoted from post at 14:40:26 03/18/21) I have a 2 speed Milwaukee. If I grab the chuck I can stop it.
George

What is the model number you have? I have the 18 volt 2 speed brushless 1/2" hammer drill and there is no way I can stop that chuck.

I also have the Milwaukee 1/4" drive 18V brushless impact driver. It works great driving torx head screws for construction.

bc · Mar 19, 2021

(quoted from post at 09:57:09 03/19/21) I have a 20V Worx chain saw and a 20V Worx jawsaw. They both run very well and last a good long time.

The instructions for both tools say to pull the trigger and get the chain up to speed before making the cut. Never had any trouble for lack of power on either tool. I bought the chain saw first, then decided to buy the jaw saw. I love both tools. That jaw saw will let you cut up 4" logs laying on the ground. No lifting them up as you would do with a chain saw.

I just ordered the Worx WG323 20 volt 10" 2 in 1 pole and chain saw on Amazing for 148 bux plus the jig saw/recip saw/pruner for another 69 bux. Comes with a 2.0 li-on battery with charger. Chain saw will take the battery and operate alone or you can add the pole which adjusts from 8 to 10' and the battery goes on the end of it with a switch. Total reach is 12' so will see how it does. I can use the jig saw for some projects as well. Get it next week. Between it and a ladder or stand in a loader, maybe I can get close to some of those 50' high limbs.

Caryc · Mar 19, 2021

(quoted from post at 11:08:59 03/19/21)

(quoted from post at 09:57:09 03/19/21) I have a 20V Worx chain saw and a 20V Worx jawsaw. They both run very well and last a good long time.

The instructions for both tools say to pull the trigger and get the chain up to speed before making the cut. Never had any trouble for lack of power on either tool. I bought the chain saw first, then decided to buy the jaw saw. I love both tools. That jaw saw will let you cut up 4" logs laying on the ground. No lifting them up as you would do with a chain saw.

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I just ordered the Worx WG323 20 volt 10" 2 in 1 pole and chain saw on Amazing for 148 bux plus the jig saw/recip saw/pruner for another 69 bux. Comes with a 2.0 li-on battery with charger. Chain saw will take the battery and operate alone or you can add the pole which adjusts from 8 to 10' and the battery goes on the end of it with a switch. Total reach is 12' so will see how it does. I can use the jig saw for some projects as well. Get it next week. Between it and a ladder or stand in a loader, maybe I can get close to some of those 50' high limbs.

I've had the 20V Worx chainsaw for almost a year now and I love that little saw. I rather pull that one out than my Echo Timber Wolf gas saw.

I purchased that pole extension you mentioned for the Worx chain saw maybe a month ago. I haven't actually used that extension yet but it seems to be very well made.

Geo-TH,In · Mar 19, 2021

MJMJ,
That's what I was thinking too.
I have a 3 hp router. It has a soft start pack built in so the router
won't jump out of your hands when you start it.

Geo-TH,In · Mar 19, 2021

Dusty,
I wish I had bought the dewalt pole saw instead because the saw makes an
angle with the pole. Be less likely to pinch when the branch is cut.

GordoSD · Mar 20, 2021

I'm running this through my outdoor 80 year experience mind. I want to go for a hike in the woods but not unless it is on a hard path that has beee cleared with a massive leaf blower. What or who am I missing here?
Why don't I just walk through the Mall?

Caryc · Mar 20, 2021

(quoted from post at 22:14:14 03/19/21) I'm running this through my outdoor 80 year experience mind. I want to go for a hike in the woods but not unless it is on a hard path that has beee cleared with a massive leaf blower. What or who am I missing here?
Why don't I just walk through the Mall?

What are you missing here? You've done enough hard work in your eighty years, it's now time to be walking easy.

I'm 74 years old so I'm gettin' there too.

bc · Mar 20, 2021

I understand Gordo. But sometimes we do alot of things out of the ordinary for the wives. Especially ones that get older and have mobility problems with easy to break bones that need to walk for the heart. I can't count the number of older women I've heard of who fell and broke their hip and then a few months later they were gone.

ASEguy · Mar 20, 2021

We wanted a path that we use to walk quietly daily so we can see wildlife. We also use it for a haunted trail in the fall and a Christmas trail in the winter.

bc · Mar 21, 2021

(quoted from post at 07:16:33 03/20/21) We wanted a path that we use to walk quietly daily so we can see wildlife. We also use it for a haunted trail in the fall and a Christmas trail in the winter.

Yeah. Here in KS any path around my place is 5 miles wide and the 30, 40, 50 mph winds we get keep everything clear.

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