Brazing Cast-Iron Exhaust Manifold

Anonymous-0

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The texhaust manifold on my VAC Case is cracked, but still intact. Can cast-iron manifolds be successfully brazed?

Thanks,
Glenn F.
 
In a College Welding class they told us don't braze stuff that gets hot, like exhaust manifolds, the heat/cool cycles tends to cause the repair to fail. That being said yes I've done it,did it before I knew better, it never lasted all that long. I always figured it was a lack of skill on my part. It can be done, how long it last varies.
 

Glenn,

wisbaker is correct ,but brazing is many times
better than arc weld . Your best type of repair is
oxy/acet weld with bare cast iron rod and flux,
with that repair it will stay repaired.

george

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I have brazed some and AC arc welded others with nickle rod. I never tried oxy-act welding one.

I was really impressed with how nice they seemed to weld with the arc welder. Must be from all the oils having been burnt out of the metal ?
 
Your best bet would be to follow george md's advise. I have arc welded cast with nickel rod and I have brazed cast with success. After seeing george md's work I would highly recommend oxygen/acetylene welding cast.

Years ago a welding supply would break a box and sell you welding rods by the pound. When I asked about cast rod it only came in fifty pound boxes at eight dollars a pound and they would not break a box. I would think at that price they would package it in smaller containers. I have not found any yet packaged smaller but have not looked real hard. I have a small cast job on hold until I find some maybe 1/8 cast rod.
 

JOB,

If you need some , give a holler. I usually

buy 100 pounds at a time, 50 of 3/16 and 50 of

1/4. I get it from tucker valve seat is texas.

george
 
Just curious- when you weld manifold parts together, do you bolt them solid on a steel plate to maintain alignment......then unbolt before/after they cool? I understand the need for slow cooling- my local welder often cools cast parts by wrapping in fiberglas insulation overnight.
 
JMS,

I usually tack them while clamped down, but
unless you have a large flat casting that you
can put in the oven,it won't work. If you use
steel the rate of expansion will most likely
crack the manifold during cool down. With
preheat at 1000 to 1200 deg in the oven , all
the expansion is done and you can weld without
warping.
Email if you want to chat about it.

george

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George, I will keep it in mind. I would think someone would sell it in ten pound containers or so. A lot of time more expensive rods are sold in smaller lots.

When you bevel a joint how much nose do you leave 1/8"?
 
A gas BBQ grill can be used for preheat and slow cooling.I brazed a crack in a cast iron stove door hinge while the stove was going 10 years ago.It held ok.Small items can be buried in lime for slow cooling.
 
Any repair of an old used corroded and heat stressed manifold is temporary. You can mess with the old manifold or replace it.
 
I wouldn't braze it. Gas welding with cast filler rod is probably best but in a given situation I wouldn't hesitate to arc weld it with a Sodel 35 nickel rod. Just make sure you get a good hot even preheat and hold it hot afterwards...

Rod
 

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