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George Marsh 02-27-2013 13:49:12 50.104.195.160 Report to Moderator	Wile E, When I was a kid, dad had an IH H, 1940. The loader cracked the tractor in half. It had very slow one way hydraulics, no power steering, trip bucket, JUNK! You will find the hoe is just as important as a loader. Save your money and get a backhoe. I love my little toy and work it hard. It may be hard to tell from the pic, but last weekend I made a tobaggon run for the grandkids. Hope we get snow to try it. The first 20 feet is straight down. Over a 30 ft drop. Made it in the side of an old gravel pit in back yard. Hill is to steep I could only drive up it to the little tree on right. Tractor wanted to flip over past that point. Used hoe as a wheelie bar to keep it safe. George [Reply]   [No Email]
Stick welding 02-27-2013 22:38:52 96.53.210.246 Report to Moderator	Re: Front end loaders in reply to George Marsh, 02-27-2013 13:49:12   You're coming out of left field. A backhoe isn't a replacement for a loader. If you want to dig a hole, get a backhoe, If you want move stuff from point A to point B, a loader is a better choice. It's pretty hard to have a backhoe without a loader on the front anyway. [Reply]  [No Email]
George Marsh 02-28-2013 05:28:21 50.104.195.160 Report to Moderator	Re: Front end loaders in reply to Stick welding, 02-27-2013 22:38:52   Stick Welding, All do respect, I think I'm more in center field when I say putting a loader on a tractor is hard on the tractor, the front end especially, no power stearing. The trip buckets are junk. Very slow hydraulics. I saw where guys put a loader on a tractor backward, putting the lifting weight on the rear wheels, like a fork lift. Might be hard to drive, bet it can lift more and easier on the tractor. I was going to buy just a loader. Glad I bought a backhoe. Didn't realize just how handy the back half is. Not trying to upset anyone, just voicing my $.02. George [Reply]  [No Email]
Stick welding 02-28-2013 13:36:28 198.53.83.89 Report to Moderator	Re: Front end loaders in reply to George Marsh, 02-28-2013 05:28:21   It's all relative. There's people that could tear up a machine with a Q-tip. My 135 has a loader and no power steering and I haven't had a problem in 25 years. I don't use the loader a lot but it's still on the tractor. When the tractor was having a new clutch put in they suggested putting 2 bushings in the front axle for the loader. A rear loader will still need counterweight on the front. I thought it odd that a guy asks about a loader and you start talking about a backhoe. I don't think he wanted a trip bucket. [Reply]  [No Email]