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Topic: Best Log Splitter
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fergienewbee

02-18-2013 11:03:18
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I may be in the market for a log splitter this spring. Any suggestion on the best brand? I'll be looking gor something in the 30-35 ton range.

Larry




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GUIDO

02-20-2013 11:01:57
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
Hello

I built one many years ago, and through use I found a few things that work well.
#1 Two stage pump A MUST.
#2 A Tall wedge 10 to 12".
#3 Wedge cutting edge to be on an angle, rail side closer to the wood then the top.
#4 Pusher needs welded piece to capture the wood. I used a 4" pipe 1/4" tick. Split in1/2 and welded to the pusher. If the wedge is mounted on the cylinder, then the pipe pieces are welded to the plate.

Guido.

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03

02-19-2013 19:25:46
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
Depending on where you live - if its in an area where its mostly pencil wood you can go with the impact splitter cause the blocks are easier and light.In big wood,however,you really should have a block lifter.



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Tom from Ontario

02-19-2013 18:16:47
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
Used to rent a Split Fire 2 way. Used to yard and block all wood and rent it for a weekend when the boys were around and would go like mad for two days. Never stopped it with big maple butts.



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Chip812

02-19-2013 11:43:52
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
I been studying this one for a while now... I just don't cut enough firewood to justify the cost...

http://www.drpower.com/Content.aspx/Log-Splitters-RapidFire?N=v8

This post was edited by Chip812 at 11:44:07 02/19/13.



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Billy NY

02-19-2013 15:39:04
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to Chip812, 02-19-2013 11:43:52  
That would be worth a try, some things I am curious about it, can you stop the pusher mid way, re-engage, funny how it meshes, they show the pinion after a few hundred cords, states it has no visible wear, assuming all the debris, must be some kind of dry open gear lube ?

Only other thing is what about the real gnarly, crotch and burl, or tough sections of elm, the hydraulic splitter will do all of that for me, but that DR could cetainly be a time and fuel saver. I like those tough pieces, they are dense and burn a lot longer.

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merlynr

02-19-2013 15:37:21
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to Chip812, 02-19-2013 11:43:52  
Here's a log splitter my friend and I made about 5 years ago and added a log lift this past fall. The undercarriage is a 48 chevy pu rearend with the closed driveshaft tube that made an excellent tongue for mounting the beam. The beam is from a house and we reinforced it with steam pipe and super bar. The engine is a B & S from a Snapper lawn mower that I had and it's electric start(big plus) and you can tow this down the road at hwy speed. It's hooked to my trailer in the pics which is attached to my IH 454. I think we've got about $900 in it now with the addition of the log lift.

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Billy NY

02-19-2013 07:03:57
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
I would suggest, look at all the typical homeowner, mass produced splitters, horizontal and vertical types, look at the specifications of each. You will find some differences, also check the features available.

There are some tow behind commercial ones out there, usually a lot more expensive, at those prices, I'd go for a processor, or use the value of one towards the purpose. There are some interesting models, log lifts, log trays, multiple wedges, 4-6way etc.

I would agree that the value of what you get with say a Huskee (Speeco) is pretty good, they hold their resale value if kept nice, under a roof, taken care of etc. I did compare spec's from most of these types, and thought the Speeco was fine, look on their site, they used to have models offered both in Honda and Briggs& Stratton engines. TSC obviously sells the Huskee brand made for them. You can get a 4 way wedge, log tray, think those would be about $100, the 35 ton has fenders, and has the best cycle time with the larger cylinder, 2 stage 16 gpm pump, I think its 11 seconds.

I was in the same situation, so much wood around, hand splitting is no longer an option, so I found a used 28 ton Huskee, added the 4 way wedge and log tray. It will split about anything you can put through it, I have tried the "gnarliest" hard maple burls and so on, (watch out for flying pieces!) it has the power, no doubt. I think most similar ones will do the same. The Honda motor a GC 190, is an easy start, sips fuel, though it starts and runs at full rpm, if that is a concern. The return hose from the valve to the filter housing, should have have the spring covering, I would upgrade, plan to do mine, some kind of heater hose on their, split once already. The tank has mount holes for fenders, the tires are 45 MPH rated, not the best, but will work for local towing, do not leave in sun and I would always have a mounted spare if towing is done frequently. The wedge on the end of the cylinder ram works ok, some like the other arrangement, I don't mind as I stack from the tray, pull logs from the ground using a pulp, double hook on thick hose(Baileys offers 3 sizes)or pull from the loader bucket, all to avoid bending over and back fatigue. If I had a conveyor and truck, wagon or what have you, the wedge would have to be the other way around. The 4 way wedge works well, I have used it on green and or seasoned wood, elm, cherry, oak, etc. they say never to use it on hardwood, green wood, but straight grained logs, it works well, but one improvement and they may have done this for safety, would be to move the wedge closer to the base plate, so when splitting it will shear through and not leave all these huge splinters still connecting some logs, it splits what common sense would tell you you can run through it, just if that ram went a little further it may work better, but I will bet they did that so the wedge cannot remove a hand or finger, though you can still crush a hand or finger with one of these, I think for the most part, anyone doing several cord for their use, most of these homeowner types would do the job and the owner satisfied.

If I was selling firewood, I think these are just too slow and labor intense, some may try it and use for that purpose, with extra help for labor, but by yourself, you can split the several cord that you may need in the ideal colder months, and be done with what you need, beyond that, I think a processor would be justified, my opinion after using this one for a year.

I would look at all the different brands and manufacturers, thinking of what and how you will be doing your wood and see what works best with what is offered in a homeowner type, for under 2k you can certainly get what you need used or new. I do not see these kinds of splitters for sale used very often, some with low use, but do see many home made or older low to the ground horizontal models, my friend has a didier on its 2nd motor, thats been in use since the 70's, big ram on it, a little too slow and low to the ground, has no 2 stage pump, and you have to put it up on a table, use a muffler deflector to divert exhaust, but it has many cords every year. One of these would work, but there is a big difference between that and a modern one. I don't use the verticle position much too much on the back, just for large diameter logs, to halve or quarter, then I'll put it back horizontal.

Oh well, hopefully some help, its a task, one I do every year, firewood, and I am thankful for having been able to obtain this splitter, it has provided a means to reduce labor and make firewood more quickly, and thats what counts. I may upgrade to a 35 ton, but want the Honda motor in it, would have to see what Speeco is offering.

One model I looked at, amongst the many and there are many, is an Oregon 28 ton which has a 16 GPM 2 stage pump, and faster cycle time than my 28 ton Huskee. You can get these with a Honda or a Kohler, I am or was a fan of Kohler's due to the K series, Honda is more money if chosen for this model. I thought given the price, features this was a decent model, I liked the faster cycle time, but thinking about it, once split, I have to toss, stack what have you, then reload, so unless there was a continuous flow of wood, that specification is not as important to me, as I do not ever want to be in any hurry when doing firewood. I am not sure if you can get a 4 way wedge made by the Mfr. for it, but could likely source another, modify, make your own.

Some of the features that stand out for one of these is the engine choices, the beam lock is a spring loaded pin you just pull, not a vertical stub that you have to use a lynch pin to lock, much better design, the trailer jack is a crank type, another better feature over a Huskee(Speeco),not sure about tires, fenders etc. It does also have steel coil covered hoses, Huskee does not.

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Tony Vidlak

02-19-2013 04:02:03
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
I have a 20 ton SpeeCo from TSC
Had it 12 years now it has never given me any problems and there has never been any wood it could not split. I think there all good for what they are intended for depends on how you treat them. Any machine is better than splitting by hand !
Tony



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awlknottedup

02-18-2013 17:37:47
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
The Speeco is a good one. It is sold under several different names at TSC, Orschliens, etc. The local lawn mower shop sells it under its own name. I boought one last year on sale and it has worked very well cutting last years and this years wood.



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Butch(OH)

02-18-2013 14:55:37
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
Best? Timberwolf
Be sure to take the large checkbook.

Best for price and quality? That is a tougher one to answer. Hard to beat a Speeco, popularly sold as Husky at TSC. Not the best by a far shot but a good value for what you spend.



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Billy NY

02-19-2013 09:03:48
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to Butch(OH), 02-18-2013 14:55:37  
I definitely like their products, just the price, but likely worth it. Did you see their, video, where they put a piece of hardwood so the wedge would shear it ? Link attached.



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alvan

02-18-2013 14:05:59
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
My son and I built one a few years ago that I would not trade for the world. we made it the way we wanted it extra long with a table on the front to hold the wood when it is split so you don"t have to pick it up on the ground.also with a log lift the will lift any size log and acts has a holding table so you can stage wood while splitting easy to make your self and was a lot of fun you can get your supplys from TSC or northern hydrolics good luck

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farmer boy

02-18-2013 14:05:20
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
Best wood splitter made is Split-fire. Can split in both directions so you don't have to wait for it to return. Made about 4.5 hours from you in Norwich, Ontario. Made locally, albeit the wrong country. Just can't quite remember, but I'm thinking the 4203 is around $2000-2500 for the 3pth model.

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MI AC Parsons

02-18-2013 13:41:29
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
Anyone know if the hydraulics on a D-15 AC has enough volume for decent speed on a 3 pt. Also looking at them and don't want another part time engine sitting around. Best I've rented is a Split-Fire a 2 way job that was incredible



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JMS./MN

02-18-2013 14:46:49
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to MI AC Parsons, 02-18-2013 13:41:29  
Volume is maybe in the neighborhood of 5-6 gpm, but it is high pressure- about 3500 psi. So you need a cyl that matches. Most splitters use high volume, low pressure cyl. Both can get the same work done. Dollar-wise, you're generally ahead by shutting off the tractor and using a little engine on the splitter.



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Wile E

02-18-2013 13:08:30
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
Design and make your own.
If you dont know how, go to a specialty fab shop and get it made. My personal opinion of the consumer grade models that are out there are poor.
I have seen a couple of home made splitters that were great, heavy duty, road towable too.



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Stick welding

02-18-2013 22:03:04
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to Wile E, 02-18-2013 13:08:30  
You better have some advanced welding and fabrication skills if you want to build a 35 ton log splitter and you better have really deep pockets to have one custom built. There's some good mass produced splitters that would be way cheaper than building your own unless you had the steel on hand. Same as trailers it's often cheaper to buy one. The proper hyd's aren't cheap either.



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Mike (WA)

02-18-2013 12:39:53
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
I've rented or used several, and they all seem to be pretty good. Be sure and get one that can be used either horizontal or vertical- Horizontal is best for stuff easily lifted, and vertical for the big stuff that you can only roll around. But I wouldn't want a steady diet of vertical operation- all that stooping and getting up and down is too hard on the back and the knees!



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mss3020

02-18-2013 12:39:37
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
just bought the 28 ton from TSC store.. Love it. split oak, elm, locust with it these past weekends. The only thing I didnt like that was an easy fix is the motor exhaust blows back at ya.. BUT just got a copper elbow and clamped that sucker on there and problem solved.



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Notjustair

02-18-2013 11:37:10
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 Re: Best Log Splitter in reply to fergienewbee, 02-18-2013 11:03:18  
I split 7 cords this weekend with the neighbor. She has a 3 point one that works off of tractor hydraulics. Don't know how many tons, but that thing is slicker than goose grease. Couldn't find anything it wouldn't do. I would definately find something vertical so you don't have to lift the heavy stuff. I can borrow hers whenever I need to but I hate doing that. I am thinking of building one just like it with an improvement or two.

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