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MFan 02-17-2013 09:17:40 207.230.193.26 Report to Moderator	Just a question on what"s been chambered for the 30-06. Other than countless bolt action type and the Remington 760/762/7600 pump and 740/742/7400 autoloaders, what other rifles have been chambered for this round? I"d like to get something in 30-06 (my current deer rifle is a 30-40 Krag) but want it a little out of the ordinary. The odder the better. [Reply]   [No Email]
davyfireball 03-08-2013 09:55:23 207.177.103.98 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   I have a 721 Remington in 30-06 paid $100 for it. It doesn't have checkering and the stock is made from what i think is ash. They later changed it into the model 700 with a walnut stock [Reply]  [No Email]
Mopower 03-07-2013 12:17:56 64.208.152.151 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   I bought a 30-06 BRNO Mauser for $250 at an auction with a scope. It's a beauty (sporterized) with jeweled bolt, nice stock etc. I have yet to shoot it. There's more out there. I personally love Russian "junk". Cheap Romanian M91 or M44 in 7.62X54 for $100 and $100 for 440 military rounds. Of course deals are getting harder to get. I bought a marked sniper M91 Mosin Nagant for $150. My bud just bought an Enfield chambered in .308. Hard to find, but gets the job done. [Reply]  [No Email]
Rich_WI 02-19-2013 19:46:20 50.50.77.31 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to J Rood, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see You go print out whatever you want, the fact still remains, and lets not forget that I provided plenty of proof for this, that H&R will not sell you a barrel like you are claiming. This has been a fact for well over 30 years. Your claim that a few years ago you could have bought what you are claiming because of some mythical piece of paper that came with the gun is pure BullSpit. You made a wild and outlandish claim in this thread, you advised the OP to simply buy a 30-06 barrel and put it on a NEF shotgun (which is made by H&R). I corrected you and ever since then you have been backpeddling, argueing and changing things to attempt to support your claim. All have been proven false. You even claim to have "proof" inthe form of something that was put in with your shotgun and some NRA guide. Of course, you never provide any of this said "proof". On the other hand, I have even linked you straight to the manufactor web page that clearly lays out their policy. They even have a toll free number that you can call and talk to somebody right at H&R, of course, you wont do that. The simple fact is, you cant put a 30-06 barrel on a shotgun reciever. H&R wont sell you one so the OP cant go buy one like you claim and H&R wont fit one to a shotgun reciever so he cant get one even if he sends the shotgun in. Get it yet? http://www.hr1871.com/support/accessoryprogram.asp Call em, they will tell you everything I have told you. 1-866-776-9292 [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 02-18-2013 14:13:02 209.240.116.36 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   .308 will do anything a 30/06 will and 308 ammo can always be found. Even if it falls off the back of a truck. [Reply]  [No Email]
MarkB_MI 02-18-2013 03:02:26 75.219.113.182 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   Looking at the suggestions so far, I'd say Scott's two suggestions take the cake for oddity. You certainly won't run into another hunter carrying a double-barrelled or three-barrelled rifle here in the US. Myself, I like my guns to have a little historical significance. So in that department I'd say the Winchester 1895 and the M1917 Enfield come in tops. Big and ugly, the 1895 was one of Theodore Roosevelt's favorite guns. Although not currently in production, FN-USA does produce limited numbers of this rifle from time to time. A used 1895 in decent condition will set you back a grand or more. If the 1895 is a little too rich for your blood, then consider the M1917 Enfield. Noted for both accuracy and ugliness, it was the Enfield, not the Springfield, that most of the doughboys carried in France. Unfortunately, many of these fine rifles have been sporterized, which does little to blunt their homeliness. [Reply]  [No Email]
D beatty 02-18-2013 06:22:33 50.151.124.6 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MarkB_MI, 02-18-2013 03:02:26   I have a 1917 Enfield that has been sporterizd, rechambered and rebarreled for 300 H&H.They machined and tapped the receiver and also restocked it. It looks as nice as any bolt action rifle out there and does not look like it ever was a military when they got done with it. [Reply]  [No Email]
Farmerhr 02-18-2013 20:43:25 108.224.0.124 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to D beatty, 02-18-2013 06:22:33   Sounds like you have a great rifle. The P 1917 action is big and long. It was a favoite for conversion to calibers like the 300 H&H. I have one in the original 30-06 caliber. It has a new stock etc. For over 60 years it has been a great rifle for me. It just keeps going & going. Thank You ! [Reply]  [No Email]
D beatty 02-18-2013 21:46:45 50.151.124.6 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Farmerhr, 02-18-2013 20:43:25   I have another one that is all original with bayonet. I have a new barrel and everything else to totally rebuild it needed. They are a well built action. [Reply]  [No Email]
MarkB_MI 02-18-2013 18:34:49 75.219.50.17 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to D beatty, 02-18-2013 06:22:33   I'm sure your Enfield is quite nice, DB. I'm also sure I can spot its dog-legged bolt handle from forty yards. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 02-19-2013 04:26:05 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MarkB_MI, 02-18-2013 18:34:49   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Not if they replaced the bolt handle. We used to have quite a few Enfields come in, about half had the bolt handle replaced. [Reply]  [No Email]
D beatty 02-18-2013 19:41:49 50.151.124.6 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MarkB_MI, 02-18-2013 18:34:49   I would have look at it again but I not sure If the bolt was reworked. The gun was built for a doctor and no expence spared.It has a beautiful black walnut stock and bluing. I bought it for a fraction of what he paid to have it built. The 300 H&H is not a real popular cal. around here after the 300 mag came out. [Reply]  [No Email]
MFan 02-18-2013 05:20:48 204.54.36.245 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MarkB_MI, 02-18-2013 03:02:26   Thanks for all the suggestions. I"m hoping my wallet might be thick enough for a Winchester 1895, that might be the ticket. As far as a 1917 Enfield, that would be a good choice but I already have a P-14 Enfield (same basic gun) chambered for 303 British. Nice shooter. I"m with you, I like the historically significant guns. [Reply]  [No Email]
Scott in SF 02-17-2013 19:57:38 75.61.81.229 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   A little out of the ordinary you want, Baikal makes a 30-06 over under double rifle. Anouther option, if your wallet is so thick you have problems fitting it in your pocket, is one of the 3 barrel drillings made by several German companies. [Reply]  [No Email]
TimV 02-18-2013 19:16:52 142.105.255.121 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Scott in SF, 02-17-2013 19:57:38   Believe the Baikal is a side-by-side. Clip below is one of my favorite Youtubers shooting his. Also comes in 45-70. Not to say that Baikal may not make o/u"s as well, but these seem to be more common. Local gun shop has a beautiful Ruger #1 in 30-06 at the moment--20" barrel with full-length fore-end wood. A buddy did his deer hunting with a H&K semi-auto in 30-06, which is not something you see every day either, and I can"t imagine it was cheap. Baikal double rifle [Reply]  [No Email]
GordoSD 02-17-2013 18:01:27 216.106.243.55 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   I would think the Ruger#1 30.06 in a heavy barrel rifle would make a great 600 yard deer rifle. I have a 25-06 HB that is deadly on coyotes and goats out to 600. ( with my tripod) [Reply]  [No Email]
David G 02-17-2013 13:16:13 205.215.206.18 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   I have my dads enfield conversion. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-17-2013 13:55:55 209.86.226.11 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to David G, 02-17-2013 13:16:13   Better be careful having that since it is a Military gun and there is no reason for the common man to have military grade weapons. LOL In its day it was an assault weapon by the way [Reply]  [No Email]
David G 02-17-2013 15:23:36 205.215.206.18 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 13:55:55   will do [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-18-2013 08:59:18 209.86.226.30 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to David G, 02-17-2013 15:23:36   Had to give you a hard time about that rifle since you as sort of anti gun [Reply]  [No Email]
David G 02-18-2013 09:06:24 205.215.206.18 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-18-2013 08:59:18   I know you did, no hard feelings. [Reply]  [No Email]
D beatty 02-17-2013 11:14:11 50.151.124.6 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   Ruger makes in a bolt and single shot NO.1 rifle in 30.06. The 1917 enfields were chambered in the.06. Winchester model 70 - Browning 1895 + the others listed below and list could go on because almost all the major manufactures have made rifles in 30.06. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-17-2013 11:00:19 209.86.226.58 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   If you have an New England arms shot gun you can buy a 30/06 barrel for it plus many other barrels in many sizes [Reply]  [No Email]
RayP(MI) 02-17-2013 13:42:32 207.241.137.116 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 11:00:19   OK guys, let"s cut to the chase... H&R firearms does offer repalcement barrels for some of their firearms. Problem is which receiver you have. Shotgun receivers are different from their rifle receivers. They are not interchangable. Some of the rifle receivers are not eligible for transplants, either. Check their website for further details: http://www.hr1871.com/support/accessoryprogram.asp (I have access to several H&Rs and am pleased with them, fun to shoot, more accurate than they ought to be.) H&R barrel accesory program [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-17-2013 14:11:39 209.86.226.11 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to RayP(MI), 02-17-2013 13:42:32   All I can go by and have been doing so is the info that came with the 2 New England arms shot guns we have and both came with info as to buying rifle barrels as does the NRA guide book I have. Yes there may be different receivers that I do not know I just know what came with the ones I own and both have been in this house for 15 plus years and even the NRA book I have is cope write 1993. A lot of thing change in 20 years guys and what was then may not be now [Reply]  [No Email]
Rich_WI 02-17-2013 11:30:13 50.50.77.31 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 11:00:19   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Nope, shotguns are for shotgun barrels ONLY. Rifles generate higher pressure so they have a different reciever. If you have a rifle, you can have a shotgun barrel fitted to it but not the other way around. Also, since Remington bought out New England Firearms, they required guns to be sent back to the factory to make sure headspace was correct and the barrel price went up. Its no longer affordable to add a new barrel to your H&R or NEF gun. That ended 2+ years ago IIRC. Now its cheaper and easier to just buy a new gun. [Reply]  [No Email]
Pete76NY 02-19-2013 01:55:05 66.194.51.226 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 11:30:13   Actually ya both are kinda wrong and kinda right: the SB1 action is what the shotguns are...it can be matched to certain lower pressure rifle calibers; 45-70 being one and a few others, but not the high pressure rounds such as 30-06. The SB2 is what you get when you buy a HP rifle caliber and can mate to virtually ANY barrel they offer including the shotgun barrels It may be that Old"s guns since they are older had an action that was capable of handling the higher pressure rounds, I am not that familiar with their history. I do know that my Father owns several of the guns, each with a few different barrels, they are all excellent shooters...I really like the .22 Hornet! [Reply]  [No Email]
RGMartin 02-20-2013 04:03:49 98.21.110.140 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Pete76NY, 02-19-2013 01:55:05   [quote="Rich_WI"](quoted from post at 00:07:11 02/20/13) Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see They will not put any barrels on SB2(rifle) frames made after 2000, as they were made out of house they they have concerns over their integrity. They will put the 357 and 44 barrels on SB1(shotgun) frames as far back as 1987. I just inquired about one of my 1993 SB1 frames with H&R/NEF/Remington. That said putting any high intensity rifle cartridge on a cast iron SB1 is like playing Russian roulette. Call H&R/Remington, they will tell you exactly the same thing. 1-866-776-9292 http://www.hr1871.com/support/accessoryprogram.asp [Reply]  [No Email]
Rich_WI 02-19-2013 20:07:11 50.50.77.31 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Pete76NY, 02-19-2013 01:55:05   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see No Pete, Im not kinda wrong. Read the link I posted, its the manufactors website and its real clear. Old claimed he bought a shotgun.... well, thats a shotgun reciever and H&R wont put a rifle barrel on a shotgun reciever. H&R dont sell barrels to gunsmiths anymore, so Old cant get a rifle barrel that way either. You cant get a barrel over the counter... so no rifle barrel that way. If Old's shotguns are older, he cant get any barrels for them. H&R wont put a barrel on any rifle reciever older than model year 2000. They wont put any shotgun barrel on anything older than 1987. The eliminates any thought that Olds shotguns are somehow older and could get a barrel that way. I already clarified my statements about rifle barrels, I remembered that they did put a couple "rifle" barrels on shotgun frames. Problem is, those "rifle" barrels were chambered in pistol cartridges. Low pressure rounds and hardly close to what Old was claiming, which is adding a high pressure 30-06 barrel on a shotgun reciever. Trust me though Pete, I am 100% positive that as I type this, Olds guns are undergoing a miraculous change and very soon, they will somehow become rifle recievers that were sold to Old as shotguns. :roll: Just wait and watch.... [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-17-2013 11:41:47 209.86.226.18 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 11:30:13   Your wrong. When we got both our 20 gauge and the 410 it came with a list of barrels we could buy that fit right on to the stock area of them. So guess the company lists thing that are not but since I know better I will still say you can buy rifle barrels that fit the shot gun stock [Reply]  [No Email]
Rich_WI 02-17-2013 12:53:38 50.50.77.31 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 11:41:47   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see No, you are wrong.... AGAIN. Shotgun recievers are for shotgun ONLY (although I think they MAY have put on some of the low power pistol calibers on them but certainly NOT 30-06). Rifle recievers can be fitted with shotgun barrels. Get it? 2 different recievers. Heck, if you want to get into talking H&R or NEF guns, we can talk about all the different recievers they made and what can go with what but for now we are talking putting a deadly rifle barrel (30-06) on a shotgun reciever. Thats just a pipe bomb waiting for a good spot to go off. So, NO, you cant put a 30-06 barrel on a NEF shotgun. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-17-2013 13:08:10 209.86.226.11 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 12:53:38   I have proof your wrong as per the NRA guide to Rifles and shotguns guns page 109 it flat out states the N.E.F Pardner Shotgun came in 10, 12, 16, 20, 28, and 410-bore Fitted with rifle barrels they became H&R single shot rifles. That is word for word right out of the book so eat your words I am 100% right and have the proof right here. Are they sold today I do not know but when I got my 410 tamer I was offered a 243 barrel with it and did not have the extra $$ to buy it [Reply]  [No Email]
Rich_WI 02-17-2013 13:34:15 50.50.77.31 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 13:08:10   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see For 1) you didnt post any proof, you could have made anything up and said it was in your owners manual or where ever you are claiming you got your "proof". Scan it and post it up or provide a link. 2) any idiot knows that the NRA guide doesnt put in every detail in their book so any quote from the NRA guide would be invalid anyway. For my proof of that, does the NRA guide list all the different recievers that H&R/NEF makes and how they go together with the different barrels? Nope, proof that the NRA guide dont even touch the tip of the iceberg. 3) why wouldnt you just go to the source to see if Im right or not? Are you afraid you would be proven wrong? (I know the answer but Im throwing it out there anyway) Here, let me answer #3 for you. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=new+england+firearms+accessory+barrel+program Its right in the first link, straight from the horses mouth. http://www.hr1871.com/support/accessoryprogram.asp I would think, if anybody would know what New England Firearms is doing and selling for their guns, it would be them, dont you think? Well there you have it, proof posative that you CANT just slap a 30-06 barrel on a shot gun reciever. Besides, who is going to sell you one? NEF wont sell just the barrel, theymake you send them in, just like I told you and like it printed on their web page. Its not cheap, just like I told you and the same thing is printed on thier web page. Doing that is making a pipe bomb but Im sure for liability reasons, they dont explain it the same way I do but if you call them on the 800 number they list, they will tell you its quite unsafe. Bottom line, you [/size:9d93d4c12d]CANT[size=12:9d93d4c12d] put a 30-06 barrel on a shotgun reciever. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-17-2013 13:47:57 209.86.226.11 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 13:34:15   Again note I do not know if they still sell them but when we got the 20 and 410 they did but that was many years ago as in over a decades and that was also when it was still New England arms. I do not care what they sell now I am just saying at one time they did. Wish I still had the papers that came with the 20 gauge because it did list a good 10 rifle barrels that you could buy at the time. But this has also gotten just plain stupid since the guy who asked also said he wanted the know about to odd ones and now days those that I am talking about maybe odd. I'll not see any thing if you answer this I am tired of this stupid none sense. I know what I know and the books I have say [Reply]  [No Email]
Rich_WI 02-17-2013 15:25:39 50.50.77.31 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 13:47:57   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Cute backpeddle but thats hardly what you have said so far. In fact, you were claiming just a little bit ago that you had "proof"..... in an NRA book. Like I said, if anybody would know what H&R is selling for barrels for H&R or NEF guns, it would be them, dont you think? And as to your claim that 10 years or so you could buy a rifle barrel for a shotgun reciever... BullSpit. NEF and H&R have a long history of NEVER doing that. Is that clear? This has been the company policy since before I have been alive and I remember running into it way back in 1986 when the policy was explained to me and how it went way back before 1986. Bottom line, it dont matter what you are claiming, or what any of this "proof" says that you refuse to post, you cant put a 30-06 barrel on a shotgun reciever. H&R never did it. NEF never did it. H&R even quit selling barrels to gunsmiths because on occation they did do it and what happened? Ka-Boom. Who got sued? H&R did because of the deep pocket rules of suing people. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-18-2013 21:36:36 209.86.226.40 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to Rich_WI, 02-17-2013 15:25:39   Next time I am in town I will get a print out of ALL the barrels that I can order for the 3 shotgun receivers we have. Talked to the son and he did order a barrel not long ago for his 12 gauge and he told me he could get from 243 up to and past the 30/06 for it [Reply]  [No Email]
RGMartin 02-17-2013 13:22:18 98.21.110.140 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to old, 02-17-2013 13:08:10   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see The shotgun frames are cast iron(SB1 frame), the rifle Frames are steel(SB2 frame). The only rifle barrels that can be safely used on the shotgun frame(SB1) are the .357mag and 44mag. H&R/NEF/Remington even refuse to supply new barrels for the rifle(SB2) frames that are more than 10 years old or so. [Reply]  [No Email]
old 02-17-2013 13:44:01 209.86.226.11 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to RGMartin, 02-17-2013 13:22:18   That maybe so now but back when we got the 410 and the 20 gauge which was when it was still New England arms they did in fact offer rifle barrels. Note I did say I do not know if they STILL and note STILL sold them but know they did at one time but that too was 10 plus years ago [Reply]  [No Email]
Paul Simmer 02-17-2013 10:18:01 75.5.233.243 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   H and R did or does make them in a single shot. Years ago I bought eacy of my boys the H and R in a 30 30. Nice little gun. [Reply]  [No Email]
MarkB_MI 02-17-2013 09:33:49 75.198.116.81 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MFan, 02-17-2013 09:17:40   M-1 Garand M1941 Johnson (auto rifle) Winchester 1895 (lever action) Winchester 1885 "High Wall" (single shot falling block) Ruger No. 1 (single shot falling block) Savage 99 (lever action) T-C Encore (single shot interchangeable barrel) Browning BLR (lever action) Not to mention various class III weapons such as the Browning 1919 machine gun and Browning 1918 Automatic Rifle. [Reply]  [No Email]
RGMartin 02-17-2013 09:51:46 98.21.110.140 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: 30-06 Options in reply to MarkB_MI, 02-17-2013 09:33:49   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see NO, the action is way to short for a 30-06. [Reply]  [No Email]