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Tool Talk Discussion Forum

Topic: Blacksmith's Post Vice
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Glenn F.

02-17-2013 04:45:20
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How many of you have a blackksmith's post vice in your shop? I've got a complete 4.5 inch (jaw) one i believe it's a Columbian.

I do not have it set up as I already have a good Wilto., and a big old Chicago vice.

Not looking to sell, but are post vices selling for much? What brands are most desirable?


Thanks,
Glenn F.




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Pitalplace

02-18-2013 16:18:39
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  


This is the vise that belonged to my mom's dad. It is mounted in my woodworking shop.



This one belonged to my dad's dad (grandad). It was mounted on a tree stump outside my dads shop while I was growing up. I have it mounted in the big shop and I use both all the time. You can see how I mounted the bottom to the floor.

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paul

02-17-2013 23:26:45
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
Dad had a good one in his shop (now mine), he used it so much he put a second one on the other wall, its a little worn out but 2 of them.

I got one for $5 at a farm auction to put in my new shed.

See them go for 5-25 bucks, not real often, but what they bring around here...

--->Paul



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Paul in MN

02-17-2013 16:22:59
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
The post vise is the vise of choice for anyone doing blacksmithing. The purpose of the leg is to support the vise while hot metal is being formed while in the vise jaws (hammered w/2# smithing hammer or being twisted). A good bench vise is not made for taking real hits (even though the tail of the back jaw may be shaped like an anvil). A little hammering on stock in a bench vise is OK, but serious forging will probably break the rear casting.

The post vise has an design flaw that can be troublesome in some more exacting work. Because the movable jaw is anchored to the post leg, and pivots from there only, the 2 jaws are not really parallel (except on rare occasion). So if we are trying to do some fine work, the non parallel jaws can mar the piece being worked on, or be cause for the piece slipping.

I have found the old post vises to be made of quality steel, and have never seen one with a broken casting. Most of our import bench vises ($100 price range) are made from poor cast that is porous, so they paint some thick glop on them to hide the poor quality sand casting. I have an 8" brand name import with about a 1.5" diameter acme thread screw. When I really tightened it up (NO cheater bar, just a good snug) the screw stretched and would no longer thread into the nut. I got a new screw on warantee, but I have never seen this happen on any vintage post vise.

I see from some of the pictures a post vise mounted on a good looking workbench. You do not want to use the post vise for blacksmithing in such a neat environment. When hot iron is being formed, it gives off sparks of oxidized iron. These sparks can be big enough and hot enough to burn the wood bench, or bounce on the concrete floor, getting to something flammable. So the post vise is usually mounted to some well buried vertical wood post cut off to the height of the mounting plate when the portion of the leg having the ring is set into the ground so that the ring is just about even with ground. But as someone else mentioned, there should be a socket with a flat plate to set the leg in, and spread the forces out on the ground. It is preferred by blacksmiths to have a good tough dirt floor or some kind of compacted gravel for the floor of the smithy. And the anvil is usually mounted on a good hardwood round cut from a log, and it is quite near the forge and the post vise.

A good post vise is as important to the blacksmith as his/her anvil. (Yes, we have some excellent women smiths in our Blacksmithing Guild).

Paul in MN

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Glenn F.

02-17-2013 12:49:55
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
Does the post sit in some sort of socket mounted to the floor? If so, I don't have it.

Glenn



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Dusty MI

02-17-2013 16:19:58
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 12:49:55  
I've always heard them called Leg Vice.

Dusty



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old

02-17-2013 08:46:02
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
I have one that is set up on my welding table. I got it from my dad who got it from my grand father and I remember it at my grand fathers farm in Seneca Ok back when I was just old enough to remember things like that and was told it is probably around 100 years old if not older



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ss55

02-17-2013 07:58:51
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
Two weeks ago I sold a small one one on Craigs List for $100, 4 1/2 inch wide jaws opening 3 inches, good condition, no floor plate, no brand or markings on it. It sold in two days. The buyer called it a "hammer vice" and was delighted to get it, no negotiating. Out of curiosity, I left the posting up for a week and only received one more inquiry.



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Zachary Hoyt

02-17-2013 07:41:20
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
I have one, it is very handy for some things. The lower point where there are jaws on the uprights can be very handy for some things.
Zach



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Zachary Hoyt

02-17-2013 07:41:19
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
I have one, it is very handy for some things. The lower point where there are jaws on the uprights can be very handy for some things.
Zach



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BAnNC

02-17-2013 06:40:32
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
I know about post drills, what does a post vice look like? Anybody got a picture of one?



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WyoDave

02-17-2013 07:08:07
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to BAnNC, 02-17-2013 06:40:32  

Here is a picture of mine. Don't mind the cluttered bench.

David



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WyoDave

02-17-2013 06:38:48
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
I've got a big columbian post vise, with 6" jaws. My brother would like one (this one was my Grandpa's) so I keep my eyes open when they sell. On auctions, the smaller ones like yours seem to bring $100-$150 if complete and not too beat up. The larger ones will bring $200 for a pretty rough one, all the way to $500 for superb one. Columbian does seem to be one of the most sought after brands.

David

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Greg K

02-17-2013 05:50:06
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
I have one, but don't use it. Have seen them advertised on craigslist here for $200-$300, but din't know if tey sold them. Mine was free to good home.



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Pitalplace

02-17-2013 12:33:43
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Greg K, 02-17-2013 05:50:06  

Greg K said: (quoted from post at 08:50:06 02/17/13) I have one, but don't use it. Have seen them advertised on craigslist here for $200-$300, but din't know if tey sold them. Mine was free to good home.


I have both of my grandfather's vices. Both Columbian, one smaller 5inch and a larger 6 inch. I would like to find another 6 inch.

This post was edited by Pitalplace at 14:11:21 02/17/13.

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R Aiken

02-17-2013 05:01:18
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to Glenn F., 02-17-2013 04:45:20  
I have my granddads post vice and anvle. Also a few more from who knows where.



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Bret4207

02-17-2013 05:46:35
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 Re: Blacksmith's Post Vice in reply to R Aiken, 02-17-2013 05:01:18  
I have 3 or 4. Most I ever paid was $25.00.



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