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Tool Talk Discussion Forum

Topic: Cuting fluid
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Red Pete

01-28-2013 13:23:36
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Anyone have a recipe or idea for cutting fluid? Been using Liquid Wrench or WD-40 for drilling holes in steel lately and it is ok but thought there might be something better. Used to use Mistic Metal Mover but lately it has gotten so expensive. Thanks




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GeneMO

01-29-2013 16:52:59
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
Hog lard. Don't laugh till you try it. We kept a tub beside the drill press for many years.

Still would if I did much drilling.


Gene



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55deere70

01-29-2013 15:40:54
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
I usually use ATF, but I tried some MMO that was nearby and thought it worked pretty good.



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soundguy

01-29-2013 11:25:08
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
lately I got some of the crc cutting /tapping fluid.. ( spray can).

seems to be working fine..



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Jon Hagen

01-28-2013 21:10:52
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
I have never found anything that works as well as Mystic Metal Mover for drilling or tapping. It's a lot cheaper if you buy it in the gallon cans at welding shops like Praxair. Dispense it with a metal oil pumper can.



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Retired Farmer

01-29-2013 18:03:19
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Jon Hagen, 01-28-2013 21:10:52  
I used to use that stuff till they changed the formula. It would actually make a DULL drill bit cut like a new one. Then they changed something and it wouldn't work for me any more. Didn't even seem to make a new bit cut.



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tractor300

01-28-2013 20:37:36
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
Might be a little hard to find now a days, but dad always used lard. Worked good and was cheap then. I usually use regular cutting oil that I can usually buy cheap on auctions.



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Ralph1111

01-28-2013 19:53:21
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
Dosen't any one use chain saw bar oil?



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RayP(MI)

01-28-2013 20:09:46
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Ralph1111, 01-28-2013 19:53:21  
A lot of the cheaper chain and bar oil is recycled motor oil and ATF. Friend of mine works in the tree cutting industry, says his boss supplies the chaepest oil can be found. Says he can smell the used oils and ATF. Since he is required to supply his own equipment, he buys his own oils.



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Retired Farmer

01-28-2013 19:45:47
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
I had been using a chain and cable spray for oiling the baler chains, when one day I finally read what was printed on the label. Said it could be used for drilling and tapping. Tried it and it works as good as Tap Magic. Don't remember the name.



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D beatty

01-28-2013 19:39:45
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
I use thread cutting oil.My uncle used a water based solution in his tool and die shop.



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wd9garymn

01-28-2013 18:31:35
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
for tapping holes i use regular vegetable oil from the grocery store. haven't tried it for drilling holes--guess i don't drill a lot of holes on the drill press



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Dick L

01-28-2013 16:36:46
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  

You might be looking for this.

You can use a machine oil, chlorine, and sulfur.
When I first started doing machine work in the early 1960's it was what we used. I never made it myself so don't know the amounts. They melted the sulfur in a tin can and added it to the mixture.

The one below would be an easy one to mix up.


Things You'll Need

1 qt. of motor oil

3 cups of dish washing liquid

4 gallons of water


Instructions
1


Purchase the necessary products. Motor oil can be found at your local gas station and dish washing liquid at convenience stores and supermarkets.

2


Add the liquid soap to the water. Mix the soap into the water so that it is dissolved. The soap is the catalyst that will enable the oil and the water to mix; otherwise the different densities will make the oil float on top of the water.


3


Pour in the motor oil. Make sure that the water and the oil are mixed properly together with no separation. The water will act as a coolant in the cutting oil, while the oil acts as the lubricant, as the water is evaporated off by the heat generated in the cutting process.


Read more: How to Make Cutting Oil eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6860630_make-cutting-oil.html#ixzz2JJtO8LcW

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Eric in IL

01-28-2013 15:56:48
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
The main idea when drilling steel is to keep the tool cool.

There is nothing better than water for this job.

Water soluble oil is added to keep the drill press and workpiece from rusting and provide limited lubricity.

We used WS 5050 from Rustlick at the tool & die shop. Mix at 25 parts water to one part WS 5050 or to suit your preferences.

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Tom-NoCenTX

01-28-2013 14:45:24
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
Brownell's DewDrill.
tom



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old

01-28-2013 14:36:40
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
I use tread cutting oil when I cut metal comes in a can with a spout so you can drip it on. If I do not have that I use used motor oil



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Ellis Kinney

01-28-2013 14:26:04
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
Tap Magic for steel, Lard for cast iron. Motor oil is not the answer, Think about what motor oil is supposed to do. Ellis



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gtractorfan

01-29-2013 14:41:18
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Ellis Kinney, 01-28-2013 14:26:04  
I've used Tap Magic while turning steel in a lathe. Makes lots of smoke and I think it includes toxic fumes. One time when the smoke was extra thick it nearly caused me to pass out! Never used it while machining again. Motor oil lubricates and cools, isn'that a good thing for drilling?



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cd1

01-28-2013 14:01:57
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
Lots of options out there, pipe threading oil from the plumbing store is good. Then there is soluble oils. Different mists. Get a machinery catalog like travers or enco.



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gtractorfan

01-28-2013 13:44:20
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
Why not try used motor oil? Been doing that a long time.



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Brad Buchanan

01-28-2013 13:33:41
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
Hey Pete.

I have been using atf for drilling and cutting metal.

Seems to work as good or better than the genuine stuff. I just use whatever is in the shop and put it in a bottle with the cone tip.

Good luck,

Brad



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Bradracer18

01-28-2013 13:33:04
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Red Pete, 01-28-2013 13:23:36  
We use Cool Tool II. Works Well. Not sure of the price



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504

01-28-2013 17:23:53
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 Re: Cuting fluid in reply to Bradracer18, 01-28-2013 13:33:04  
Slow cutting, water is what the old timers say to use.



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