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Tool Talk Discussion Forum

Topic: Welding Rod--What to use it for??
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Pappy

12-24-2012 06:59:41
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Cleaning out the old work shop at my in-laws farm and found three full boxes (50 Pounds each)of 5/32 rod, number 7024. What would be the proper use for this type rod




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Pops1532

12-24-2012 19:31:29
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pappy, 12-24-2012 06:59:41  
Yes, some call it a drag rod. My welding instructor called it idiot rod....he said any idiot could weld with it.



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Mike M

12-26-2012 06:55:39
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pops1532, 12-24-2012 19:31:29  
LOL !!!

I love that rod. Makes my welds look good ! Holds good too ! You have to be able to rotate the parts around so you are welding flat position.

Can't hardly find it anymore in my area in small quanity.



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Stick welding

12-24-2012 11:36:13
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pappy, 12-24-2012 06:59:41  
7024, commonly referred to as Jet rod. Actually Lincoln calls their 7024 Jet. It's not low hydrogen so doesn't need an oven, only needs to be kept dry. It has a heavy iron powder flux and is a high deposition production rod. Most 7024 applications have been taken over by flux-core. 7024 was used a lot for things like large oilfield tanks, welding checker plate on skids and other high production non critical welds. It is a drag rod but sometimes holding the arc just off the slag works better than dragging. The heavy slag should peel off almost by itself, leaving a very smooth weld. A 1/4" 7024 will burn a 1 1/2 to 2 ft. bead depending on what your welding. Is a good general purpose rod for flat and horizontal welds. Have to be careful with the heat as too many amps will leave blisters in the weld. Usually about the same heat as 7018 depending on what brand.

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GUIDO

12-24-2012 10:37:53
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pappy, 12-24-2012 06:59:41  
Hello Pappy,
E7024 rod has a higher deposit rate then is cousin, E7014, and it is a fill rod, while the e7014 is a fill-freeze rod. The rod is suitable for flat-position welding, and horizontal fillets.
Like any other low-HY rod, it works best when free of moisture. Looks like you have enough to last awhile.
Guido.



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Stan in Oly, WA

12-24-2012 11:06:18
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to GUIDO, 12-24-2012 10:37:53  
Hey Guido,

7014 and 7024 rods might run better if they're kept dry, but they're not low hydrogen. Here are what the relevant final numbers in the electrodes’ designations mean:

XXX4---Iron powder titania
XXX5---Low hydrogen sodium
XXX6---Low hydrogen potassium
XXX8---Iron powder low hydrogen

This is taken directly from Lincoln Electric’s Stick Electrode Product Catalog.

Merry Xmas,

Stan

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GUIDO

12-24-2012 12:03:44
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-24-2012 11:06:18  
Hello Stan in Oly, WA,
Good catch! I meant to type iron not Hy.
Don't know what I was thinking.
Guido.



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Stick welding

12-24-2012 12:06:30
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to GUIDO, 12-24-2012 12:03:44  
It's Jet rod, you were thinking too fast. LoL



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GUIDO

12-25-2012 06:22:39
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Stick welding, 12-24-2012 12:06:30  
Hello stick weld,
Jet rod yes! thinking too fast? not really. Thinking more like a prop then a jet.
HEY! at least I'm thinking....... some anyhow.
Guido.



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Puddles

12-24-2012 15:08:07
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Stick welding, 12-24-2012 12:06:30  
I remember reading a thread on the AWS forum a few years ago. Some guys down in Texas were building the base for a very large oil tank. They were running 1/4-inch jet rod. At first they were having trouble, then someone suggested they run the large 7024 on AC, cleared up all their problems.



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Stick welding

12-24-2012 23:32:48
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Puddles, 12-24-2012 15:08:07  
Probably had problems with arc blow. On DC Jet rod
runs a little better on straight polarity but most
welders don't bother changing polarity cause most
everything else runs DC+.



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Puddles

12-24-2012 08:31:34
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pappy, 12-24-2012 06:59:41  
Here is one of Lanse's videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc4p2apZls8



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Mike Groom

12-24-2012 08:19:58
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pappy, 12-24-2012 06:59:41  
Great rod for flat welding,slag tends to curl up and leaves a great looking weld,if it still has the flux on it you can bake it in the oven to make sure it's dry and it should work fine.



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PJH

12-24-2012 07:23:09
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pappy, 12-24-2012 06:59:41  
I think it's similar to 7014, but for flat position only.

Paul



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Puddles

12-24-2012 07:18:11
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pappy, 12-24-2012 06:59:41  
It is called jet rod. Old school wire feed. :lol: Very fast in the flat and horizontal positions.



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PJH

12-24-2012 07:26:07
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Puddles, 12-24-2012 07:18:11  
"Very fast in the flat and horizontal positions."

Sorry Puddles - I read your reply, but I guess it didn't register. . .

Paul



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Puddles

12-24-2012 07:30:01
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to PJH, 12-24-2012 07:26:07  
Paul I remember one time working in a can plant, (where they make cans) all they had was 7024, :roll: I had to run it vertical up hill, what a mess!



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PJH

12-24-2012 08:13:12
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Puddles, 12-24-2012 07:30:01  
Yeah - it will drip on you, ha. That was the rod that they started us on in the Jr. college adult ed welding classes. You can almost lay it down and drag it. Good for someone who has never had a stinger in their hand. Our instructer called them (7014 and 7024) production rods, for use on a prepared joint. Big heavy slag that would pop off real clean. Vertical up? I know I'd fail at that. . .

I used to think I was a decent welder, but I disappoint myself a lot as I get older.

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Stan in Oly, WA

12-24-2012 08:56:32
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to PJH, 12-24-2012 08:13:12  
Quote: "You can almost lay it down and drag it."

Hi PJH,

You can leave out the "almost". You not only can drag it, it might be that you are supposed to. One of the welding instructors at the local community college once showed me a data sheet which either came with the rod or had been issued by the manufacturer for one brand of 7018 we used. It stated that the rod was meant to be dragged (drug?) and that it wouldn't meet some code if it wasn't. I don't remember the specifics any better than that, but I might have kept the document. It's Xmas eve morning, though, so I probably won't get around to looking for it today. My point is that if 7018 is ever meant to be dragged, it seems like you could count on 7014 and 7024 being so.

Stan

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husker44a

12-24-2012 07:14:39
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 Re: Welding Rod--What to use it for?? in reply to Pappy, 12-24-2012 06:59:41  
That is for mild steel. AC/DC Rod. If it was kept dry. Should still be OK...If the flux is coming off. Scrap iron.



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