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jon f mn 12-11-2012 19:57:34 70.195.75.64 Report to Moderator	Someone posted on here that they needed a gear for an early 1900's horse drawn manure spreader fixed or replaced. It looked like a fun project so I asked if I could do it. I gave them 2 options on how I thought I could do it and let them pick which they preferred. I thought it might me interesting to see how some of you might have handled this project. This is just for fun and one idea is as good as the next as far as I'm concerned. They said they wanted it fixed as economically as possible and since they were going to be using the spreader beauty was less important than strength. Here are some pics of the gear when I got it. I will post pics of what I did and an explanation of why I did it the way I did after. [Reply]   [No Email]
Retired Farmer 12-12-2012 13:25:55 207.200.116.12 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   I know how I would have fixed it. Show us how you fixed it, pictures please. Neat old spreader. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-13-2012 04:35:01 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to Retired Farmer, 12-12-2012 13:25:55   I think I would have either welded something up or found a similar sized gear and machined it to match. [Reply]  [No Email]
tg in VA 12-12-2012 13:19:05 75.193.31.165 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   I had a front sprocket break in a similar fashion on an old International spreader. I took the salvaged piece to a machine shop and they "computer cut" a new one for me. It worked perfect. [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 12-13-2012 05:39:52 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to tg in VA, 12-12-2012 13:19:05   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see The machine shop route can work great, or be stupid expensive depending on how business is going, I think. I have had some really great work done very reasonably, and I have also paid a whole lot. These shops seem to have times when they are pushing hard to make dead lines, and can't think of looking at a "one off" job, or they may be kind of coasting along and can't wait to jump on something a little out of the ordinary. A friend retired and works half days at a local shop, that is halfway between tool and die and high production. He says how now and then he'll try to get the owner interested in a one off little job, and sometimes he "bites" and sometimes he doesn't. [Reply]  [No Email]
jon f mn 12-12-2012 08:53:10 70.196.3.232 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   that's all the pics I have prior to the repair. sorry. You have more info than I did when I started because I didn't get pics of the spreader til after they got the gear back on. lol [Reply]  [No Email]
wisbaker 12-12-2012 08:27:00 207.118.181.101 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   I think I'd find another sprocket, even if it meant replacing the other one and the chain. [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 12-12-2012 05:43:53 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   Having suffered through failures of repaired cast iron parts, and expecting that this would have to stand up to significant torque, I think that I would fabricate one out of some steel tubing and plate. It would take considerable planning but I would picture basically a hexagonal plate approx. 5/16 thick boxed with 5/16 rectangular pieces on one side and 5/16 basically triangular pieces on the other side that would weld up to the rectangular pieces and the base plate. [Reply]  [No Email]
jon f mn 12-12-2012 05:07:58 70.195.70.56 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   Sorry folks, should have been more clear. here is nothing else, the missing parts need to be fabbed [Reply]  [No Email]
js305 12-12-2012 05:06:08 184.79.57.233 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   Call me dumb, or maybe I didn't pay enough attention, but, do we have the rest of it somewhere? I'm really impressed at being able to fix it but having to fabricate the rest of it would be quite a task. [Reply]  [No Email]
Andy C 12-12-2012 04:29:00 74.103.170.179 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   I would grind it to form a V....preheat.....braze.....cool slow. Brazing can allow you to feather into the sides easier than electric....Looking forward to finished pics. Andy [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-12-2012 04:32:06 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to Andy C, 12-12-2012 04:29:00   Yup braze and brace. [Reply]  [No Email]
Dick2 12-11-2012 23:38:43 174.19.205.113 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   I well remember those cold metal seats in the winter time! It would have been much warmer if I could had rode one of the horses instead of setting on that metal seat. [Reply]  [No Email]
JD Seller 12-11-2012 22:54:49 208.126.196.144 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   Well as the great repair man RED GREEN would say: This job might just require the good heavy duty DUCT tape" !!!!! Seriously, I would preheat it and braise it with brass. Then slow cool it. That old cast iron/steel usually is pretty porous and will hold brass really good. [Reply]  [No Email]
george md 12-11-2012 22:36:06 209.213.167.201 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   Need torch , cast rod ,flux , and some pieces out of a cast iron bath tub . That looks easy compared to some of the manifolds I get. george [Reply]  [No Email]
jon f mn 12-11-2012 21:07:58 70.195.64.154 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 19:57:34   Guess I got the age wrong, it must be late 1800's here are some pics of the spreader. [Reply]  [No Email]
PJH 12-12-2012 06:31:36 50.40.254.45 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to jon f mn, 12-11-2012 21:07:58   NICE old spreader! I vote for Showcrop's idea. That would be the quickest and surest for me. [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-12-2012 08:27:24 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to PJH, 12-12-2012 06:31:36   Oh....you don't have the rest of it....crap. Whats the chain that runs on it look like and could you spin the gear 90 degrees so we can see the original form please? [Reply]  [No Email]
jon f mn 12-12-2012 09:07:22 70.196.2.253 Report to Moderator	Re: How would you fix this? in reply to Bret4207, 12-12-2012 08:27:24   Sorry that's all I have before the repair. The center web is about 3/8" thick and cross pcs are bout 5/16", the tabs about 1/8". That's more info than I had because I didn't get a pic of the spreader til got the gear back and installed. lol [Reply]  [No Email]