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Don From Texas 11-29-2012 19:18:53 69.170.74.78 Report to Moderator	son in law has stuck auger almost level with dirt,can you use pipe wrenchs to reverse and remove? [Reply]   [No Email]
Bret4207 12-04-2012 04:16:54 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   The rest of the family figures since we own all this land we much have bucks. They can't comprehend it all goes out the door. But then, they're all college educated too. Go figure.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 12-04-2012 05:12:40 184.151.61.46 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Bret4207, 12-04-2012 04:16:54   I see somebody that #1 dropped out of school . #2 got left holding the bag because he let everybody else run over him. You will always be on the hind teat unless your change your plan and direction.   [Reply]  [No Email]
JD Seller 12-03-2012 17:05:23 208.126.196.144 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   Yes you can back them out with a big pipe wrench. For the guys talking about the hydraulic augers and the cost. I have mounted a hydraulic motor on several PTO post hole diggers. Just remove the PTO shaft and make a bracket to hold the motor. I usually direct hook them but I have also used two sprockets and a chain if my motor was not the right size. I usually use the reel drive motor off a JD grain table. They can be bought used cheap and the rest is off the shelf stuff. Usually less than a few hundred dollars. I have one setup that way on my auger and I use the same motor with different mounts to run an old cement mixer and also use the same motor to raise my silo unloaders. So once you get the motor and hoses you can use it on several things and spread the cost out.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-03-2012 10:24:14 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   Yeah, right. Taking care of dying parents and in laws with cancer and dementia is my fault. This post was edited by Bret4207 at 10:24:50 12/03/12.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 12-03-2012 16:44:40 216.183.130.235 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Bret4207, 12-03-2012 10:24:14   Won't last forever and where is the rest of the family?   [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-03-2012 04:38:38 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   You find some elitist loudmouth that thinks he's got the world figured out to sit on the end of it.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 12-03-2012 06:34:04 184.151.61.178 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Bret4207, 12-03-2012 04:38:38   No sympathy for somebody that is always poor/broke. Their own fault.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Rustyj14 12-02-2012 16:57:54 74.109.237.80 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   Too bad the old fella, on Kountry Life, who sold pre-dug post holes, isn't around any more. He died in a hunting accident! His pre-dug holes were handy! Sold various sizes and depths! Don't remember how much they cost, but were cheap, considering the cost of post hole digger attachments for farm type tractors! By: Rusty Jones   [Reply]  [No Email]
MFPoor 12-02-2012 04:59:56 72.4.0.230 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   Got a friend with an older Massey Ferguson tractor? if so, hook up the PHD to the MF, put PTO in the GROUND SPEED position, jack (at least) one rear wheel off the ground, put tractor in REVERSE and back auger out of the ground. (PTO reverses with trans.) Works like a charm!   [Reply]  [No Email]
Dusty MI 12-02-2012 05:35:04 76.250.62.134 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to MFPoor, 12-02-2012 04:59:56   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see So do I go looking for a M.F. tractor with ground speed PTO. ? Or go buy a skid loader and a hydraulic auger ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:   [Reply]  [No Email]
ih706 12-01-2012 19:27:32 69.77.218.40 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   I'm a little late here, but next time. Take a front end loader and chain. Hook the chain directly on the auger, if possible, so you don't break anything. Raise the loader and tractor hydraulic at the same time. Of course take care where you hook the chain on the loader, so you don't break anything on the loader.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Dell (WA) 11-30-2012 10:31:18 63.226.222.68 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   Don........since I didn't have an auger for my 8N, I rented a Yammabottadeere with post hole digger. I was doing great digging holes for new fence line ...until... my front wheels were 3-ft in the air!!! I could NOT raise my digger!!! I managed to gitt some wood cribbing under the front axle and then I could un-bolt the auger. I then moved the tractor outta the way so I could "pipe-wrench" the auger. NO LUCK. I then realize I'd haffta DIG the auger outta the ground. It had "screwed" itself into BIG tree ROOT. I ended up having a 3-ft post hole instead of nice 6"-holes. ........holey Dell P.S.........what I've never figgered out, you dig a 6"-hole and putta 6"-post in it and still don't have enuff dirt to tamp the post tite........2nd point, NEVER CEMENT yer posts, the cement collects WATER and ROTS yer treated post off   [Reply]  [No Email]
Brad Buchanan 12-01-2012 08:15:49 74.71.185.165 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Dell (WA), 11-30-2012 10:31:18   Interesting opinion. Auger hole, shovelfull of pea gravel, set post, 1/2 or more bag of sackrete and grade over. Have removed posts that have been in the ground 15 years and wood is perfectly sound. Brad (yer signpost settin' guy)   [Reply]  [No Email]
Bendee 11-30-2012 22:58:59 124.180.138.90 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Dell (WA), 11-30-2012 10:31:18   You will get rot if you concrete underneath the post and create a reservoir.   [Reply]  [No Email]
thurlow 11-30-2012 15:18:52 74.177.51.237 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Dell (WA), 11-30-2012 10:31:18   We've augered our share under tree roots, etc. Never seen one that we couldn't back out with a 3 ft pipe wrench.....with the digger still on the tractor. I eventually bought a 3-point hitch hydraulic digger; paid big bucks, but as many holes as we dug, it was worth it. As far as the soil going back in the hole; it had to do with the phase of the moon or the amount of moisture in the soil or........SOMETHING; sometimes there wasn't ENOUGH soil and sometimes there was TOO much.   [Reply]  [No Email]
chevytaHOE5674 11-30-2012 11:26:35 74.221.60.204 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Dell (WA), 11-30-2012 10:31:18   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I've noticed that too. Fill the hole up with a post and shove all the same dirt back in and you are still short.   [Reply]  [No Email]
caterpillar guy 11-30-2012 10:00:45 68.188.235.228 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   If the digger is on an older Massey Ferguson you could just jack one wheel in the air and put the tractor in reverse with a foot on the other brake would just screw it out as you lift with 3pt. You would of course have to move the PTO lever to the reverse position.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Chip812 11-30-2012 08:26:06 216.226.180.3 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Bobcatz, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I think we need a picture of your wooden frame...   [Reply]  [No Email]
Mike (WA) 11-30-2012 08:13:04 69.10.199.107 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   I run the auger at just above idle on the tractor, so things don't happen too fast- then as it digs, repeatedly lift the 3 point to throw the dirt off to the side of the hole. Knock on wood- haven't stuck it yet.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 11-30-2012 07:26:53 184.151.61.136 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   More proof of what a piece of junk a pto post hole digger is. Once you use a loader mounted, hydraulic driven post hole digger. You won't touch a pto unit. Get stuck, it just stops turning. Reverse the flow and back right out. Soil hard, add a little down pressure.   [Reply]  [No Email]
bill mart 11-30-2012 09:18:03 69.204.65.189 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to buickanddeere, 11-30-2012 07:26:53   how does that help him get his stuck auger out?now you are just rubbing his nose in it. Bill   [Reply]  [No Email]
randallinMo 11-30-2012 07:34:21 216.74.205.155 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to buickanddeere, 11-30-2012 07:26:53   Buickanddeere.........and you've got HOW MUCH invested in your cadillac skid steer post hole digger??? I"ll keep my $300 "piece of junk" pto digger thank you.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 11-30-2012 12:57:13 184.151.61.136 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to randallinMo, 11-30-2012 07:34:21   Glad I'm not so cheap or poor to have to take extra time and extra work which makes the job more expensive then using good tools in the first place.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-01-2012 04:54:20 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to buickanddeere, 11-30-2012 12:57:13   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Oh man, give me a break. Not everyone has the bucks to sink into specialized, new or almost new equipment. I'm glad you're rich apparently, but not everyone is. I think your post was highly insulting and more than a little elitist.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 12-01-2012 07:04:00 184.151.61.168 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Bret4207, 12-01-2012 04:54:20   You can take it as being " penny wise and pounds poor" in equipment choices.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-02-2012 05:41:51 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to buickanddeere, 12-01-2012 07:04:00   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I personally can't even begin to dream about getting a rig like you describe. The money simply doesn't exist. Does that make me stupid or just trash? We've been driving posts in spring with a maul or borrowed driver and digging them in with a shovel and post hole digger (hand type, not power) for years. We finally got a power post hole digger for the tractor after years of saving and you have the gall to come on like we're stupid trash? I think you got too far from the farm sir.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 12-02-2012 11:22:35 209.240.113.219 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Bret4207, 12-02-2012 05:41:51   You are the one using the words "stupid" and "trash".   [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 12-02-2012 14:40:52 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to buickanddeere, 12-02-2012 11:22:35   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see You're correct. But reading between the lines in your statement, "Glad I'm not so cheap or poor to have to take extra time and extra work which makes the job more expensive then using good tools in the first place.", certainly gives me the impression you're an elitist that can't grasp that some people have to get by with what they can afford.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 12-02-2012 18:11:44 184.151.63.191 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Bret4207, 12-02-2012 14:40:52   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Given that the US and Canada are the two most prosperous and business friendly countries in North America. And the number of people who risk everything to get here , start off with nothing . Then work hard and smart then become prosperous. Given the number of people I've seen born here with nothing and have done well. Plus the number of folk born into money and waste it away. I don't buy the I'm poor story. No problem with those who have had an occasional run of uncontrollable factors that have been a temporary setback. As long as they get back up and prosper. one of my Grandfathers work hard his whole life and nothing to show for it. Half starved my Mother as a kid , no warm clothes, no toys at Christmas and no medical/dental care. Old fool couldn't plan ahead or handle money.   [Reply]  [No Email]
chevytaHOE5674 11-30-2012 20:26:59 74.221.60.204 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to buickanddeere, 11-30-2012 12:57:13   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Glad you are fortunate enough to have all the "best" equipment. Personally for the amount of holes I dig the 3pt unit works like a charm. Would drive me nuts knowing I spent $2000 on a hydraulic digger only to have it sit in the corner of the shop for a year or more without use.   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 12-01-2012 04:51:52 184.151.61.168 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to chevytaHOE5674, 11-30-2012 20:26:59   $2000.00 for a lifetime investment on machine that saves hours of time every time it's used is worth it. Better investment than 1.5% bank interest on $2000.   [Reply]  [No Email]
MFPoor 12-02-2012 04:54:59 72.4.0.230 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to buickanddeere, 12-01-2012 04:51:52   Spoken just like someone who's grossly overpaid and grossly under intelligent.   [Reply]  [No Email]
chevytaHOE5674 12-01-2012 21:35:24 74.221.60.204 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to buickanddeere, 12-01-2012 04:51:52   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Saves hours everytime....? Hmmm The other day I put my digger on and drilled about 6 holes in a half hour. If a hydraulic one could have saved me an hour that means it would have reversed time. In that case I better go out and buy one ASAP. haha   [Reply]  [No Email]
Diydave 11-30-2012 08:55:16 96.244.157.254 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to randallinMo, 11-30-2012 07:34:21   Ain't nuthin a hydraulic digger can do, that a pto digger does just as well. That being said, I need my hydraulic auger, for the speed, accuracy, not trying to start any fights, But since you asked, I have $1750, in the hyd auger, that includes a 6" auger, and a 30" auger. I have since picked up other augers, that fit it, never paid more than $200, for any of them!   [Reply]  [No Email]
buickanddeere 12-03-2012 04:31:17 184.151.63.191 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Diydave, 11-30-2012 08:55:16   With the various soil types here left from glacial till. One farm can have sand, gravel, loam, clay, clay loaded with stones and swamp muck. Then add moisture varying from wet to dust if on low or high ground. Too much time wasted with broken shear bolts, augers that corkscrew in or won"t dig at all without down pressure. How do you add down pressure with your three point hitch digger?   [Reply]  [No Email]
chevytaHOE5674 11-30-2012 07:42:58 74.221.60.204 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to randallinMo, 11-30-2012 07:34:21   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Agreed. I paid 150 bucks for my PTO digger, I could leave the auger stuck in a hole and buy a new one multiple times for the the price of a hydraulic unit.....   [Reply]  [No Email]
chevytaHOE5674 11-30-2012 06:54:54 74.221.60.204 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   I've always just taken the PTO shaft off the tractor and swung out off to the side. Stick a bar through the U-joint and turn it in reverse while the 3-pt is being raised. Turning the auger thru the gearbox IME is easier than turning just the auger.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Diydave 11-30-2012 05:17:25 96.244.157.254 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   Yep, drop the auger, and wrench it out is fastest, with that setup. That's why I got a hyd auger, on my Asv, like the poster, below. Move my thumb from the right button, to the left, and the direction reverses!   [Reply]  [No Email]
downsouth 11-30-2012 05:15:16 64.12.116.141 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   Tell him the PTO only turns one way at the back of the tractor. In order to "unscrew" the bit he will have to remove the complete unit and hook it to the front of the tractor because the PTO runs the opposite way up there. Meanwhile you stand in the house looking out the window while drinking a cold beer while laghing your azz off. A video camera would be handy too! BTW I got one stuck.....ONCE. Got a lot smarter after that. Yes, got it out with a pipe wrench and some sweat (it was over 100 degrees that day) so I never forgot it.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Stephen Newell 11-29-2012 21:37:55 63.25.183.139 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   I get one stuck all the time. I have a little tractor that's too short in the drawers to pull an auger. I move the tractor back and forth an inch or so to enlarge the hole a little and then use a farm jack to lift it out. I have since built a wooden frame so I can stair step the auger into the ground. It had been grabbing like a screw until the tractor couldn't turn it anymore. Letting it down only about 6" at a time really helps.   [Reply]  [No Email]
scotc 12-02-2012 13:06:37 75.239.101.82 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Stephen Newell, 11-29-2012 21:37:55   I have to do that with the hydraulic auger we hang off the bucket of the 4020, even while running it in reverse. Especially with the 3 inch bit in the springtime. I've had a back wheel off the ground trying to pull that stupid little thing out of the ground. The smaller bit seems to push dirt aside instead of bringing it out, to the point that it wedges itself in. The larger bit isn't as bad. The one we have is a Rhino, same gearbox as a 3 pt unit, but has a spacer and hydraulic motor bolted onto it.   [Reply]  [No Email]
randallinMo 11-30-2012 07:28:06 216.74.205.155 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Stephen Newell, 11-29-2012 21:37:55   Stephen....What a great idea! I've got them stuck too and never thought of that to prevent it from getting stuck in the first place. You get the GOLD STAR for the day!   [Reply]  [No Email]
Tony in SD 11-29-2012 20:19:40 216.106.218.1 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   My dad got one stuck in clay in the late 60"s or early 70"s. He simpley had his boys pipe wrench it out, me being on of the boys. That"s why I bought a Bobcat post hole digger. The hydro rotates either direction with the press of a switch. I"ve never had it stuck where I couldn"t get it out sitting on the seat.   [Reply]  [No Email]
jacksun65 11-29-2012 19:35:24 166.205.68.17 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   I just stick a rod in the u joint and turn it backwards tractor off pto in neutrul   [Reply]  [No Email]
jeffcat 11-29-2012 19:33:13 68.44.189.237 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   My dad did that one time in shale soil. Used the PTO like a breaker bar. Unhook it and turn it 90 degrees. Big guy steppin on the end of the PTO as the tractor hydralics trys to pick it up. GOOD luck!   [Reply]  [No Email]
Uncle Ernie 11-29-2012 19:31:58 64.38.158.247 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   How about hooking a Cub to it??? PTO runs reverse...I think. Probably a dumb idea but...   [Reply]  [No Email]
ericlb 11-29-2012 19:28:32 75.107.64.57 Report to Moderator	Re: stuck post hole auger in reply to Don From Texas, 11-29-2012 19:18:53   thats the only thing you can do, its easier if you can unbolt the auger bit from the digger shaft and get the tractor out of the way, good luck, been there done that myself   [Reply]  [No Email]