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dennis min 11-15-2012 18:42:46 71.48.125.3 Report to Moderator	All, Where"s the tough ol" goat that was my Dad? That ornery man is a piece of melted buter when it comes to grandkids; especially patience, tolerance. forgiveness, time, etc. Just saying my folks have a way of aging blessedly... Again, take this kindly, D. [Reply]   [No Email]
L.C. Gray 11-22-2012 03:34:01 76.0.111.149 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   Bill Cosby said it best after watching his parents with his own kids... "These are not the same parents who raised me... they're old now... and they would like to get into heaven." [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 11-18-2012 04:42:43 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to Kevin 8N184534, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see 2X what Brett Says [Reply]  [No Email]
Bret4207 11-17-2012 05:07:23 64.19.90.196 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to wvajim, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Not dissing you here Chuck, but self esteem is the last thing my grandkids need. That's all the schools concentrate on, building up self esteem, never letting them fail, even when they DID fail. IMO what GP are for is passing on the values our kids haven't grasped yet because they are too busy learning to be parents. Things like manners, humility, perseverance, how to bend over and actually work. Of course you give them fun too, but GPs are there to fill in the holes Mom and Dad miss. [Reply]  [No Email]
Switchflicker 11-16-2012 17:52:42 142.161.190.169 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   Anyway, that's my opnion. That and a buck and a half will buy you a cup of coffee.[/quote] That and a bus ticket will get you home (Big Grin) [Reply]  [No Email]
Chuck (CA) 11-16-2012 13:44:38 70.199.71.146 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   A couple of thoughts regarding this from a grandfather of 10 and great-grandfather of 2. Parents have their hands full with raising kids, paying bills and all the other things to make ends meet. A grandparent is there to help give the young-uns the self esteem they so often need. We don't have the distractions of every day responsiblities of raising them. (The exception is the grandparents who have to raise their grandkids, for whatever reason.) The other thought is testosorone, or actually the diminishing of it as we get older. The macho-ism ain't like it was and we don't feel the need to be the gruff parent. Anyway, that's my opnion. That and a buck and a half will buy you a cup of coffee. [Reply]  [No Email]
1970-1655 11-16-2012 12:45:21 184.9.239.58 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   I keep telling my daughter "remember all the headaches you caused us? Payback time!" We had 1 daughter, she has 2. We will take the kids any time we can so they can have some discipline and love in their life. When they get older, they will remember all the good times with us, even if their mother forgot so soon. [Reply]  [No Email]
jackinok 11-16-2012 10:23:33 162.58.82.136 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   for my self ,who started raiseing kids at 18, I like to think ive matured and its no longer a case of a kid raising a kid. Nana says its because im in my second childhood,but i dont believe that for a second!!as long as i dont have to share my ice cream and candy,i can handle them!!!of course i MIGHT have overdone it just a little bit.when the five year old writes you a shopping list,and sends you to the store for icecream,cookies,chips,candied corn,and goldfish so she will have enough supplies to spend the night, that MIGHT be an indication they are slightly rotten. [Reply]  [No Email]
don t-9n180179 11-16-2012 10:08:47 63.73.199.69 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   "Where"s the tough ol" goat that was my Dad?".... Ask to borrow or use his prized tool/truck/shotgun/ and see if that doesn't wake him up(big grin). [Reply]  [No Email]
welding man 11-16-2012 09:25:47 76.9.225.68 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   I'm not a grandparent and never will be,but I have a lot of friends that are. What get's me is the grandparents are stuck with raising their grand kids because their sorry azz kids have dropped them on their parents. Maybe if they had done a little better job of raising their own kids they would't be in their 60's and 70's trying to raise a second family. [Reply]  [No Email]
downsouth 11-16-2012 05:16:55 205.188.116.142 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   We as grandparents tend to spoil our grandchildren. The real reason we do this is in hopes the grandchildren will annoy their parents after they leave the grandparents house, hence the grandparents get even with their children even though they are now adults raising their own children. At least that"s what I do, and I swear our son knows it too. Funny thing is, they will be here for a week long visit this Sunday. Let the fun begin! [Reply]  [No Email]
da.bees 11-15-2012 23:18:07 72.181.183.240 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   The wife and I have decided if we had it to do over we would skip raiseing any kids and just move on to haveing a bunch of grandkids. It has something to do with genetic conditions sometimes skipping a generation don't you see. The generation born before and dureing Roosevelt's administration and ending about the end of Ike's are darn near perfect in all respects. The next one starting during the Kennedy administration and ending dureing Reagan's seem to have missed the boat all the way around. Which brings us to this latest batch of 2 weeks old to early 20s that like thier grandparents,are smart,good looking and virtuous. Well,there you go and it must be true since I said it. [Reply]  [No Email]
Switchflicker 11-15-2012 20:23:24 206.45.156.93 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   We do mellow out a lot, We also have less pressures in the form of responsibilities to raise the kids. We have more money and less money worries, We have more TIME to spare and what we need to do is not so urgent as when we had our own kids. We have the same love as before, but somehow before, we couldn't let the world stop turning just to look after some 'insignificant' little kid problem. Now we look for reasons to stop the world for our grandkids. That's what I think SF [Reply]  [No Email]
tractor300 11-15-2012 19:34:42 173.84.222.126 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   My son say's the same thing. It seems like as we get older we do mellow out some. He says the grand kids get by a lot easier than he did which I do have to agree with him on that. I think maybe some of life's pressures are less now, I don't know for sure. [Reply]  [No Email]
wisbaker 11-15-2012 19:21:40 207.118.181.192 Report to Moderator	Re: OT: Where's grampa when he was Dad... in reply to dennis min, 11-15-2012 18:42:46   It's the god cop bad cop thing didn't he tell you that? You get to be the bad cop and he's the good one, kinda of a reward for raising kids. [Reply]  [No Email]