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Brad Buchanan 07-29-2012 12:09:04 74.71.185.165 Report to Moderator	Just got done filling the tank on my string trimmer. The gas can has a valve on the spout which will not let you pour the gas..you have to push the spout into the tank to let the gas flow. As usual the valve stuck and when I withdrew the spout gas spilled all over the tool and onto the ground. I had been using the round Eagle cans forever with the thin rubber spout with the plug and could control the flow and not spill a drop. All gas cans sold in my state, NY have to have some kind of safety valve. I have yet to see a plastic one tht did not spill gas due to malfunction or just poor design. The cure? Guess it will be to buy a type 3 can with a metal spout for ninty bucks or so. Ain't big government grand? Brad [Reply]   [No Email]
JML755 08-04-2012 09:28:40 24.192.222.226 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Goose, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   [quote="eastexan"](quoted from post at 10:49:28 08/03/12) Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I would have used a sarcasm emoticon if there was one. :wink: [Reply]  [No Email]
eastexan 08-03-2012 07:49:28 98.134.230.67 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   [quote="JML755"](quoted from post at 13:40:53 08/02/12) Brad Buchanan, I'll put gas in a bunch of gallon glass bottles before I put up with the failings of the new design. quote] OUCH, bad idea!! Those flying glass shards would be mighty painful. :shock: I noticed that leaving these new unvented plastic cans out in the sun will bloat them. At least the brand I got will. Last year when it was so hot, I put some gas in my lawn mower one morning and forgot to put the can up. It set out in the sun for a few days, and when I noticed it, it was all bloated up and deformed. It never went back to its original form and never set level again. I'm surprised it didn't split. [Reply]  [No Email]
JML755 08-02-2012 11:40:53 97.78.165.188 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   Brad Buchanan, yup, I've been looking to buy a new can to hold higher octane gas for my chain saw refills. But will not buy one of those new ones. I'll put gas in a bunch of gallon glass bottles before I put up with the failings of the new design. BTW, I've got a couple of older plastic gas containers that I've lost the removable spout on. No big deal. Now I just use a funnel to fill the lawnmower. [Reply]  [No Email]
ericlb 07-31-2012 21:26:54 12.189.32.54 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   pain in the rear aint they ? i got/had one too, dumped the whole spout assembly for an old on i had and put a air hole in the top of the can, [ one of those self drilling screws fits it fine,] the kicker is the one that MSHA made the plant buy to fill the water pump tank with,the one that had been around the place for 10 years suddenly wasnt safe according to some dude somewhere so the boss got one they liked, cost 100 bucks for a 5 gallon can its steel construction, it has a safety lid which has its own handle to operate along with a built on funnel to make sure the gas doesnt spill on anything, nifty, except... apparently the kid that designed this thing forgot one thing, when you put the 5 gallons in the can in something, you have to refill the can, now the only way to do this on the can is thru the same hole the lid covers, which is way down in the bottom of the funnel, which doesnt remove, it can be done if one struggles long enough, but you got to wonder why they didnt just put a screw on cap over a fill hole in the can... like the steel one i have here from the 60's , i realize that then it would be possible for a stupid person to unscrew the fill lid and spill gas all over, but somewhere, someplace common sense has to enter the design process [Reply]  [No Email]
eastexan 07-31-2012 20:19:58 96.15.191.208 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   I wouldn't mind the new style cans if they had a decent vent on them. It seems to take forever for a 5 gal. can to empty out when filling a tractor. This post was edited by eastexan at 20:20:43 07/31/12. [Reply]  [No Email]
mmsparky 07-31-2012 19:48:53 98.132.205.86 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   i cheated when my rubber hose broke on my eagle can i got a spout off a metal funnel cut it off and brazed it onto the old metal cap from the rubber spout and for my new can just drilled out or broke the safty part and life is good [Reply]  [No Email]
dave2 07-30-2012 13:56:35 139.139.35.69 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   Hypothetical situation......... Don't noone get em in a wad, just think about it... a unionized company (s) make fuel cans and flood the country with fuel cans. There's so many fuel cans out there that noone else needs em. Those folks can either stop makin fuel cans or "improve" on em, raise the price, and sell all the fuelcan poor folks a better fuel can. All you hicks with them old fuel cans are just too dense to see that your lives are in danger and turn your noses up at the newer/safer ones cause they's more expensive. Soooooooooo....bein the unions run the government to a scary extent, they get the government (OSHA?) to force all you naive folks to buy them safer ones which'll give the unions more money to bribe (read lobby and support) the government..... Them new safer cans that are gonna save y'all's lives seem to start out in the 20 buck + range.. I live in one of the most safety minded countries in the world and can go into practically any store and buy a fuel can in 5,10, or 20 liter for a few bucks. They only have a spout that you screw on that is supposed to vent back thru itself and poor easier/not spill (I haven't figgered that part out yet). Can usually pick them up for 3, 5, and 7 bucks... However, I do have a little spout I got from Stihl that is one that you stick in the tank and push to fill. I think that thing is the best thing since peanut butter and jelly sammiches..... [Reply]  [No Email]
SweetFeet 07-30-2012 18:02:10 70.35.110.213 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to dave2, 07-30-2012 13:56:35   Great hypothesis! It is the same thing that happened tanks for gas grills. [Reply]  [No Email]
Earl Gray 07-31-2012 08:17:42 68.235.89.1 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to SweetFeet, 07-30-2012 18:02:10   The reason small propane tanks have the OPD valve is because every gas station-convenience store wants to refill them. They wont pay enough for trained qualified employees so the tanks have to be idiot proof. I watched a person being trained on the proper procedure once and the next tank he filled he completely ignored all the previous training! [Reply]  [No Email]
Brad Buchanan 07-30-2012 17:04:32 74.71.185.165 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to dave2, 07-30-2012 13:56:35   Nothing in a wad :) I think if somone invented 'the perfect spout from heaven' that solved all our heathen fueling problems everyone would be happy. Unfortunately when the new product is demonstrably inferior, less safe and also mandated by law people get annoyed. Safery minded?? I heard that the national vegetable of Germany is the bratwurst! Thanks for playing, Brad [Reply]  [No Email]
JRSutton 07-30-2012 12:40:53 75.130.109.233 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   I have three cans with those safety valves - and three safety valves that are stuck closed - and somehow broken inside. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don' So now I end up taking the entire filler tube completely off and pour the gas with out it - which is MUCH more dangerous than whatever problem the useless safety valve was ever meant to solve. [Reply]  [No Email]
Stephen Newell 07-30-2012 04:37:40 66.53.81.231 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   It doesn't end with the valve. The majority of this so called safety devises make most things more dangerous. Until I started putting a spring clamp on the release lever on my lawn mower I had too many close calls doing circus tricks trying to get limbs out of the way without having to stop and restart the mower. [Reply]  [No Email]
Russ from MN 07-29-2012 20:24:29 68.235.89.1 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   Just cut the shut-off part off the end of the spout and get a cork the right size for it, life doesn't have to be so complicated! I am lucky, I stocked up on cans before they got so safe! [Reply]  [No Email]
Gambles 07-29-2012 18:31:48 24.246.215.127 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   The lawyers are grand too. If you've been reading the news, the gas can company Blitz is closing their doors because of lawyers and litigation. Blitz supplies 75% of the portable gas cans in the country and the final straw was when a guy poured gasoline on a fire from his Blitz can and killed his own 2 y.o. daughter. Of course, him and his lawyer say that it is the fault of the Blitz gas can company. 100 people are getting their layoff papers because of this. Does anybody seriously think there will be tort reform when most of our senators and representatives are lawyers? Maybe WM will buy their gas cans from a Chinese company now, a company that will be harder to sue. I'm not posting a link, but you can Google it for details. [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 07-29-2012 18:29:06 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   I have an Eagle with an F-15 plastic spout that I have been using for nearly forty years, which convinced me that it is good, so I got a second along with an extra F-15 spout. They pour easily and quickly. Much better way for me to go than those new ones. [Reply]  [No Email]
showcrop 07-29-2012 18:26:54 75.67.231.80 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   I have an Eagle with an F-15 plastic spout that I have been using for nearly forty years, which convinced me that it is good, so I got a second along with an extra F-15 spout. They pour easily and quickly. Much better way for me to go than those new ones. [Reply]  [No Email]
JMOR 07-29-2012 17:51:08 99.105.24.57 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Fixerupper, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   Everything has good, too...........a thief worth his salt won't steal one out of your PU...........just don't leave one of the old ones in plain sight or it will be gone in a NY minute! :wink: [Reply]  [No Email]
Billy NY 07-29-2012 17:10:18 67.248.100.3 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   One of these, has to be worth it compared to the dysfunctional plastic ones we have now, for my needs, 2 of them would do the trick, easily, one time investment and at least they are safe or safer, I would hope one of these pours easily, not a trickle. Safety Can [Reply]  [No Email]
Billy NY 07-29-2012 17:05:40 67.248.100.3 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   This irks a lot of people, I don't think I understand what happened, or why the new type replaced the old kind with spout on one side, vent on the other, keep those in the shade, and out of the heat, no sudden vapor lose, just common sense. People don't respect gasoline, of course bad things can happen. The new cans ( and I always try to make the best of things) are worthless, literally useless. OSHA requires safety cans, and an approved cabinet say on a job site, no plastic. Older Eagle and similar safety cans, well vented, metal flexible spout, or just old metal cans, if you can find them, not rusted inside, or plastic with the vent, I see them on craigslist once in awhile, its either that or just bite the bullet and get what you need in new safety cans. [Reply]  [No Email]
Lanse 07-29-2012 16:01:50 209.251.8.126 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   Might not be the worst idea ever to build a gas can, some 14 gauge sheet metal to make it extra heavy duty, pipe fitting and a rubber hose to pour, and a nice handle of some kind, and some of that red-kote stuff on the inside. I mean, we have to be politically correct here... So, only use it on your own property, cant take it on the road, and dont put actual gas in it... And never take it to the gas station lol... [Reply]  [No Email]
504 07-29-2012 13:41:45 64.111.61.44 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   Yard sale gas cans! [Reply]  [No Email]
sflem849 07-30-2012 17:27:07 69.197.84.39 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to 504, 07-29-2012 13:41:45   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I'll spend more for one of those than a new one!!! I bought a 5 gal gas and 5 gal diesel last summer for $10. [Reply]  [No Email]
JDseller 07-29-2012 12:13:49 208.126.196.144 Report to Moderator	Re: 'Safety' gas cans in reply to Brad Buchanan, 07-29-2012 12:09:04   I just cut the safety valve off. Then use the cap and bottom part of the old spout with a rubber hose on it. Have been adapting them for the last several years. [Reply]  [No Email]