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mm585 10-24-2012 08:24:58 166.182.3.21 Report to Moderator	Okay, first, lets look at the guy who thinks his flat head G is legal in the stock class. If we make a rule that a late G can run a flat head then we have to adjust the rules for all colors, fair is fair. This would make it legal for farmall H and M tractors to run a propane head, allis a leroy head, and the MM tractors can run 800/605 heads. Did any of these tractors come from the factory with these heads NO, thus they are NOT STOCK. Next for the allis guy who wants to run a d17 motor in a wc. You said it was to much trouble to switch the guts from the 17 motor to the wc, a d17 motor has 1/2 inch longer stroke than a wc so that crank isnt legal in a stock wc anyway. OEM parts in the stock class. If you want to run big motors step up a class and give the guys trying to get in to the sport a chance. [Reply]   [No Email]
FactoryFarmer 10-24-2012 20:18:29 184.20.120.249 Report to Moderator	Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to mm585, 10-24-2012 08:24:58   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Hate to break it to you but late G's that were gas and not all-fuel has flatheads on them according to an old JD tech I talked too. With that aside, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE SWAPPING PARTS AROUND! Thats what makes tractor pulling fun, taking a stock tractor and swapping enough parts around to make it competitive. In some cases it doesn't take 10k to make a decent running engine if you know what your doing. As far as a D17 crank in a WC, can you tell if it's in there without pulling the pan? (i'm asking because I have no idea, just curious) Look at the attendance of pure stock pulls and the attendance with some hotter stuff, it's pretty apparent what people want to watch anyway.... [Reply]  [No Email]
klklklkklkklklkk 10-24-2012 14:20:42 65.55.67.205 Report to Moderator	Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to mm585, 10-24-2012 08:24:58   605 heads didnt come on tractors? Have you ever even seen a 605? Every head available on a 605 was available on a tractor even the HD 605 it had 4231 or 4232 heads which were on M670 and G1000 tractors. The 800 heads are still factory produced heads and not aftermarket like the farmall and jds use. [Reply]  [No Email]
mm585 10-24-2012 21:45:34 166.182.3.14 Report to Moderator	Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to klklklkklkklklkk, 10-24-2012 14:20:42   lklklklklklklk. Funny you should ask if I have ever even seen a 605. I just bolted an Hd800 in to a massey super 95 for my son to run and This summer I hauled an hd605 home from kansas with the idea of converting it to diesel for my gb diesel. How do you figure a farmall lp head isnt factory? there are repops out there but the 350 and 450 lp tractors had lp heads. A picture is worth a thousand words. Tell me now, do you feel a little silly asking me if I had ever seen a 605??? [Reply]  [No Email]
lklklklklklk 10-25-2012 04:08:25 65.55.67.165 Report to Moderator	Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to mm585, 10-24-2012 21:45:34   But apparently you cant read part #s Every 605 head ever used was also used on a tractor. Do you understand yet? Oh congratulations on the 800 I am sure you were the first to figure that out. [Reply]  [No Email]
mm585 10-25-2012 07:04:01 166.182.3.141 Report to Moderator	Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to lklklklklklk, 10-25-2012 04:08:25   LKLKLKLKLKLK I can read part numbers just fine, 4229 is the one I like. The point I was trying to make was that rectangle port heads shouldent be allowed in the stock class on a U or UB ect. As you can see I like HD800s but I feel they belong in the open div5 clases. Im by no means the first to put an HD800 in a gvi or 95 I was just showing you what kind of tractors I like to pull and that mabie Im not a compleat idot when it comes to molines as you would like to think I am. I posted a couple of pictures of my projects and I would like it if you could share some photos of what you pull. I also have a single front red face U single block that I pull with that has a head casting number of KE282E small chambers and 14mm plugs. Nobody I have talked to seems to know anything about it. Your a moline casting number expert mabie you can help me out. thank you for all of your words of wisdom thus far, its always nice to share info with a fellow moline puller. [Reply]  [No Email]