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MMZAck 10-23-2012 17:16:07 170.2.52.28 Report to Moderator	In reading the discussion a thought popped into my head. It seems there should be a class somewhere between 3mph or 3.5mph and open (no speed limit) for NATPA. I find the comment about "I pull the open class because it is easier than the stock" very interesting. Guys have strong tractors, yes, but perhaps would like to compete in a faster speed limit class but not open ended. Get my drift? This might free up the stock classes for more stock type tractors. This is one of those beating a dead horse kind of discussions. We can talk all day about what casting numbers are legal and what is fair but it just complicates things and the tech checks become tedious. Tunica and the USAP really have the best rules dialed in to address stock vs. modified and what engine components are allowed. Basically if it bolts up, run it. Pick your speed limit class and lets go. The 3mph stock class has restrictions on tire size & cut and tractor weight, so even fresh off the farm guys can compete. We had a guy on a bone stock Ford 800 win the 4000lb 3mph class last spring against some regular pullers. Most folks who bolt a 403 in a UB, 310 in a 77, Gleaner in a WC, etc. like to compete in the faster classes anyway and it keeps the cubic dollars required lower. It also makes for a better pull since nobody likes to stall out in 1st gear. Most guys who have more power run bigger tires anyway that put them in the faster classes. My take on it anyway. Zack PS - Poking fun - no problem with the Deere power blocks. They need all the help they can get to catch up. :) [Reply]   [No Email]
nos88 10-24-2012 15:52:28 69.174.170.233 Report to Moderator	Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to MMZAck, 10-23-2012 17:16:07   Same manufacturer, same number cylinders for model of tractor, pull under a speed limit, what is the difference if its a 301 or 310 or whatever MM"s are allowed, (nobody really knows) dropped in versus a built up original block for that tractor? One costs more, one you drop in!! I have pulled against both and could care less how they make their power. Lost and won against both. This of course is not in stock classes but speed limit classes! USAP has good rules in my opinion. [Reply]  [No Email]
mm585 10-23-2012 17:31:10 166.182.3.123 Report to Moderator	Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to MMZAck, 10-23-2012 17:16:07   MMzack, Look at the post here from the mn deere guy. His thought is that power blocks and heisler heads on a deere should be legal in the stock class. The problem in my area IS guys with 310 77 olivers and gleaner allis tractors DO think they should be allowed in the stock class. THATS THE PROBLEM!!!!! [Reply]  [No Email]
unstylish 10-23-2012 18:26:20 198.228.228.167 Report to Moderator	Re: what is stock? for the rich or the poor? in reply to mm585, 10-23-2012 17:31:10   Mm585 the thing u.don't.get tho is that you can put the same stuff in a wc block. But why should u have to switch it into a wc? Then u have to buy two motors. Just bolt in a gleaner and save time space and money. There is no other advantage past that. Not like a 310 in an oliver..whooole different thing there [Reply]  [No Email]