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mlshvb 10-30-2009 21:27:01 99.40.234.86 125699 Report to Moderator	I found a 2150 about 90 miles away from me and wouldn"t mind checking into it to maybe fix up a little and pull in some farm classes. It looks like it has the wide 32 or 34 inch tires, but I would like to use 20.8-38 tires for pulling. Can I put regular 9 bolt hubs on the tractor so I can use 38" press wheels? It would be nice to lighten up the tractor to get into the 11,500lb/130hp class. I have heard that the 2150 has a planetary rear end. Are the planetary gears internal to the rear end or are they located externally on the hubs? We have always ran the smaller 50 and 55 series olivers, but never ran across these big old beasts before. I"m getting the itch to add another oliver to shed, but would appreciate a little guidance first. Thanks, Mike [Reply]   [Send Email]
BLH 11-01-2009 04:29:08 71.2.202.110 125734 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mlshvb, 10-30-2009 21:27:01   We took our 2050 across the scale this spring. It has one slab weight on the front, no fluid in the rears (18.4-38), but does have cone shaped dual wheel adapters on the back over the planetaries, other than that, it is stock open station tractor. Front axle weighed 4900 lbs, rear axle weighed 9600. There is alot of tractor there to try to lighten up, and if you remove three point and hydraulics and such, that all comes off the rear, but LOTS of weight still out front   [Reply]   [Send Email]
mlshvb 10-31-2009 18:15:15 99.40.234.86 125725 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mlshvb, 10-30-2009 21:27:01   Thanks for the comments guys. So it sounds like I would have my work cut out for me to get 38" rubber on the tractor. At the pulls around here, I never see any tractors(AC or IH) do much good with the wide 32 or 34 inch tires, but I never paid much attention to what kind of bite or tire make they had. I guess I shouldn't discount the ability of the old olivers to get the job done though. What do you guys think of pulling with the wide tires? We normally have a pretty good dirt track that the BFG powersavers dominate. If I keep the wide tires on there, Tractor data says that the weight of the tractor is 12,990 lb. Is this true, or how light can I get it by maybe removing the 3 pt...etc. We have a 13,000lb/150hp class that I would try to enter if possible.   [Reply]   [No Email]
mlshvb 10-31-2009 10:30:12 99.40.234.86 125714 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mlshvb, 10-30-2009 21:27:01   Thanks for the comments guys. So it sounds like I would have my work cut out for me to get 38" rubber on the tractor. At the pulls around here, I never see any tractors(AC or IH) do much good with the wide 32 or 34 inch tires, but I never paid much attention to what kind of bite or tire make they had. I guess I shouldn't discount the ability of the old olivers to get the job done though. What do you guys think of pulling with the wide tires? We normally have a pretty good dirt track that the BFG powersavers dominate. If I keep the wide tires on there, Tractor data says that the weight of the tractor is 12,990 lb. Is this true, or how light can I get it by maybe removing the 3 pt...etc. We have a 13,000lb/150hp class that I would try to enter if possible.   [Reply]   [No Email]
4010 puller 10-31-2009 14:30:11 173.81.73.41 125718 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mlshvb, 10-31-2009 10:30:12   I think the wider tires the better (more traction to ground). There is one running around here in speed and open classes that does pretty good. I think he can get it in 10000, but not sure. You can put the fiberglass nose on it which will loose about 500 pounds, maybe do something with your rear wheels, and maybe a combine front end or something. I think he has a bigger head/rotor on pump (maybe 13mm) and a 3lm charger which runs pretty good. Only thing to watch out for is head gaskets because they have real high compression. You'll have to maybe put low compression pistons in, a thick copper head gasket, or fire ring it. Not a bad tractor if you can buy it cheap.   [Reply]   [No Email]
mkuhns 10-31-2009 13:15:57 69.72.87.207 125717 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mlshvb, 10-31-2009 10:30:12   Are the tractors dynoed before they pull, or are they factory Hp the classes go by? Everything we pull against in the farm classes are around 200 hp red tractors and a few green ones. It's not that hard to make centers for 38" rubber. We have a set of older 23.1X34 BFG's on our 2-105 right now. Air pressure is key. They have worked pretty well pulling for us. We won the 11,500 at the same fair with 2 different drivers at the wheel 2 years in a row. There were 35 tractors in the class this past year and 1st was the 2-105 with 5.9 cummins in, the 2155 oliver, and the 1850. I made 13,000 with my 2255 no cab out of the field. Put smaller tires on and lost 200lbs. If I put tin centers on I could have lost an easy 2000lbs - the weight of the tin centers. The biggest problem would be getting the front end off the ground. 13,500 would be a better class for that. The our other 2255 pulls front in 15,000 pretty easy, where our 2-150 with small front tires can barely get it off the ground. The picture above is of the 2155 with 3/8 centers welded to the rim.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
mkuhns 10-31-2009 07:44:18 69.72.88.226 125708 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mlshvb, 10-30-2009 21:27:01   All the 2wd 2150's had the external planetaries. They use heavy cast centers weighing 1000 lbs a piece to slide over the planetary. If it has the 34" rubber, chances are it has the light tin centers. I haven't seen any 34" cast centers with planetaries. You won't be able to use 9 bolt tins. You could make centers to put over the planetaries and weld into a rim like we did to our 2155. I don't think the light tin centers from factory were an option for 38" centers. I think you would be close to 11,500 with tins We have a 2150 4wd light duty version with internal planetaries. We overhauled it with military pistons making around 200 hp. I know it could make more with the stock pump and turbo.   [Reply]   [Send Email]
mlshvb 10-31-2009 21:45:54 99.40.234.86 125727 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mkuhns, 10-31-2009 07:44:18   All the tractors are dynoed before the pull and only the top 5 have to dyno afterwards. There are normally about 20 tractors in each class and everyone runs radials for the heavier classes. The more research that I do, it sounds like the tires are 24.5-32. I guess I'll have to make a trek down there and check it out. I just saw a picture of it and it looks like it sat outside quite a bit and one of the rear tires is almost down. I bet the tires are really pricy, so that may lead me to putting some 38" rubber on it anyway. Are there any issues that I should specifically look for on the tractor? The guy said to make him an offer, so what do you think a good starting price would be for a tractor that is in fair to rough condition, but they say that it runs.   [Reply]   [No Email]
4010 puller 11-01-2009 06:54:42 173.81.73.41 125744 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mlshvb, 10-31-2009 21:45:54   Doesnt look terrible. 24.5-32 is a pretty common tire. Many tractor pullers are using them due to their width but many older combines ran them, so any combine salvage yard should have the rims and several sets of tires to choose from. I guess the 32" to 38" tire dilemmma is your call. You can run what you have to get more traction because their wider and a little shorter or go to narrower but taller tires. I think I would try the 24.5-32 tires on it if they are any good and maybe see if you can get pressed steel rims somewhere. As far as price offer him about $2000 and go from there. I'm usually the other green so I dont know oliver prices very well. Everything around these parts are 1550-1855 sized. The only oliver i ever owned was detroit powered.   [Reply]   [No Email]
B A Star 10-30-2009 22:50:47 209.50.18.224 125701 Report to Moderator	Re: info about 2150 oliver in reply to mlshvb, 10-30-2009 21:27:01   The model 2150 was available in three versions: Two wheel drive.  This version had planetary drive that was external at the outter end of the axle housings. Four Wheel Drive.  This version was non planetary final drive with adjustable axle. Extra Heavy Duty.  Four Wheel Drive with planetary final drives at the outter end of the axle housing.   [Reply]   [No Email]